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"Rolling face/ Molly face" Should I be concerned?

sextacy67

sextacy67

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So I rolled with four friends this past Saturday. Great time, honestly it was probally the best time I'v had on it. Canadian over here and we don't exactly have the greatest reputation for purity/ cut stuff. Not to mention when I started I was pretty juvenile about the whole thing. Well I got what I suspect to be MDMA (no it was not tested, but It felt like M too me).

Anyways three of the four friends have never rolled. Their the drinking type and smoke weed once in a while if I'm around. So they had never been exposed to it and I'm pretty certain it was the real deal (I got real speedy pressed pills the first time, took me like 3 years to come across uncut MDMA). It was 200 mg and you may say "whoah there cowboy" but like I say its Canada you take that dosage with a grain of salt considering how cut our shit is. Non the less I was the genie pig and dropped first. I was having a great time, wasn't overwhelming and I wouldn't think it would be to them.

So everyone has a great time, one girl was freaked out by the come up but after that everyone was jazzed. So it takes a while for my other friend to feel any effects but when she does she's rolling harder than any of us. She got "molly face" "roller face" whatever you wanna call it. I'v done my fair share of M (mostly cut) but I'v never been like her. Eyes rolling in the back of her head, real twitchy, just bobbing back and forth to the music. So some of you may say "don't worry happens all the time" but honestly never really seen that except on another friend but I assumed it was because he mixed it with other drugs.

After she was peaking everything was fine, she was way quieter (probably bummed the peak was over). The next day she was fine no hangover what so ever. So if this a common effect, am I worrying? or is 200mg to much for first timers? Just looking out for my chums.

***Side question? (don't know if that's allowed lol) Is there any truth to life long MDMA tolerance or is that just some assumption with no evidence? It could have been set and setting (and getting good stuff) but Saturday night was my best roll and I'v probably done it close to 20 times now.
 
I took 1.25 my first time with no hangover. Most first-time molly users won't feel a hangover, only a happy glow lasting 2-5 days. At least that's personally how it was with me.

As far as the twitching and rolling face hard, I would assume that's not molly. People react to everything differently, but I was given a methbomb the last time I did molly, and I had those similar affects- twitching, crazy bug eyes, rolling my face off.

But 200mg is a high dose for a first time hit, especially if it was pure (not methylone).
 
I should probably re word the "twitchy" stuff. She wasn't twitching or anything just the way her eyes were rolling in the back of her head was really frantic. I had a little "eye bugging" too just not rolling my eyes in the back of my head.

I like to assume (and hope) it was M but I at least know it wasn't methylone. Lasted longer than an hour... I fucking hate methylone lol
 
Then yeah, she was just rolling balls. Definitely not meth, because you'll be "rolling" for 7-12 hours.
I took 250mg fire molls and my eyes were rolling back mega hard
Everyone reacts to it differently, for example: typically my jaw doesn't clench.
Unfortunately, I've noticed every roll sesh has slightly different effects.
 
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sextacy67 said:
is 200mg to much for first timers? Just looking out for my chums.
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Yes. You should have introduced them to perhaps instead 100-150mg depending on their gender/weight/age. Of course anyone is going to be absolutely floored from 200mg of any MD analogue, especially MDMA. A young, fit girl (apart from being ideal and delicious) is definitely going to have an overwhelming first time experience from 200mg. The symptoms you described really don't surprise me, she would have had no idea what to truly expect (not to the extent of describing an LSD experience, but you get the picture).

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***Side question? (don't know if that's allowed lol) Is there any truth to life long MDMA tolerance or is that just some assumption with no evidence? It could have been set and setting (and getting good stuff) but Saturday night was my best roll and I'v probably done it close to 20 times now.
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I think it is more up to your personal tolerance/experience. Sometimes the days/nights are just much more magical than others, due to our own mood and chemical imbalances and not just the chemical imbalances that we ingest.


Very good of you to man up and be the guinea pig instead of making your friends go through that without having any form of experience like that. Next time surely try and acquire your goods and test the absolute fuck out them so you don't have to put your own health at risk. :)
 
Sounds like your friend just had a really good time to me! I get the typical rolling face when I'm floored, eyes rolling back and nystagmus and can't hold a conversation to save my life.

To your side question, set,setting and who your with plays a much bigger role in your experience that you will think... just to make an example the night I met my ex was the most amazing night I have ever experience and I totalled only 3 pills yet just the fact of who I was with and the events that happened I felt no comedown and a huge after glow - it is still the best night I have ever experienced, yet only 7 days earlier I took 7 of the same pills and had a mediocre experience in the same place.
 
That totally munted, eyes rolling into the back of the head, lost in the music face is quite common. Every first timer I've seen has been like that and it just tells me that I know that they're feeling the magic.

Anyways, 200mg of MDMA is a dosage territory I personally wouldn't dare to venture despite having done MDMA around 7~ times. However, there are girls of small stature in my area who've had a great time on 200mg of MDA, which surprises me as they're far from veterans.

Being in Canada doesn't give you an excuse to take cut, untested MDMA. I live in Canada myself and have seen a lot of uncut MDMA and MDA, surprisingly more MDA. It took almost a year to find uncut MDxx within the city, but lately there's been a large surge of uncut product. There's no excuse to use untested product and blaming the country you're in for bad product that could possibly end up killing you or one of your friends isn't acceptable in my opinion.

Just test your crystals/powder/pills.
 
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I didn't say I'm against testing or I "know for a fact" its MDMA. Your right I have no excuse but I'm not some cocky kid that's all like "I do what I want bitch". I didn't have a kit at the time, something to do next time. Mostly asking about the "roller face".
 
My first time also produced more severe muntedness and nystagmus than any other roll I've had aswell... Again, its all to be expected nothing to worry about :)
 
Should you be concerned she was having a good time? Eyes rolling into the back of head = the first few times I did MDMA and took shit loads, just swaying fucked. Buy the ticket take the riiide!
 
As a matter of fact I would be quite concerned if she was just sitting there not rolling her eyes around having the time of her life haha
 
A bit under 200 mg. I should test it next time for sure, its just iv taken way more than that and not even gotten that high in this city. Never gotten the kind of stuff that gets me high off 100 mg in my life. This is coming from a guy with little if no tolerance too. Thanks for the feedback everyone, seems like this is regular occurrence I just really never saw it before IRL.
 
Yeah sounds about right, if you aren't rolling face on a dose not too far from 200mg then that would suck haha. Yes definitely test your stuff from now on!

Could be heavily cut most likely, or it's another MDxx.
 
Methbomb Molly?

What is a methbomb and how do you know if you had one? I did what I thought was Molly for the second time yesterday and it wasn't the same this time. The guy we got it from said it was a new synthetic version that does not show up as Molly when tested, it doesn't show up as anything, well this has been the worst experience of my life, it's been almost 18 hours since i dropped and I'm still feeling anxious and my heart rate is still up and my vision is still blurred and my eyes are watering like crazy, I just want to know if anyone knows what we might have taken? This isnlt anything like the euphoric feeling I had last time or the energy I can barely talk or hold a conversation with anyone, I'm so disoriented and I still can't sleep, it sucks. Any suggestions as to what to do to bring back down would be greatly appreciated. I want this to end and I'm never touching this shit again.
 
Canada is actually one of the world's three biggest suppliers of MDMA (along with the Netherlands and Belgium)! The quality of our stuff can be pretty amazing, but it depends who you buy from of course.

Quality does vary a lot by supplier, by batch and by dealer. I've taken 150mg pills that had me floored, and 200mg pills that barely got me feeling high. Whatever batch you guys got sounds fairly strong, so if she rolls again I would certainly start with 150mg and then take more only if that doesn't do it for her! Everyone reacts differently to it, as well- some people get really bad tardive dyskinesthia (lips smacking, mouth moving around a lot), eye rolling and grinding, whereas others don't experience similar physical side effects. Start with a lower dose next time and top up if you need to :)

Generally unless you are doing MDMA very frequently, a tolerance does not build up. I have been doing it monthly for five years and require the same dose to get high that I did in the beginning.


To Curiousnewbie: I can promise you you'll get a lot more replies if you go to http://www.bluelight.org/vb/forums/22-Ecstasy-Discussion and click "New Thread" near the top left part of the page to post this. You're on someone else's thread right now where people mostly only reply to the original person who posted/asked their question. If you start your own thread, lots more people will see it and respond! You asked a somewhat loaded question and it's generally not considered polite for people to reply to your question in someone else's thread :)
 
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What is a methbomb and how do you know if you had one? I did what I thought was Molly for the second time yesterday and it wasn't the same this time. The guy we got it from said it was a new synthetic version that does not show up as Molly when tested, it doesn't show up as anything, well this has been the worst experience of my life, it's been almost 18 hours since i dropped and I'm still feeling anxious and my heart rate is still up and my vision is still blurred and my eyes are watering like crazy, I just want to know if anyone knows what we might have taken? This isnlt anything like the euphoric feeling I had last time or the energy I can barely talk or hold a conversation with anyone, I'm so disoriented and I still can't sleep, it sucks. Any suggestions as to what to do to bring back down would be greatly appreciated. I want this to end and I'm never touching this shit again.
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That sounds a lot like piperazine unfortunately.. really, get a test kit if you ever plan on taking ecstasy again. You NEED one. There is much too much fake shit going around these days, if you get meth you're probably lucky compared to the other shit floating around. MDMA is amazing... the shit they sell as MDMA is near deadly.


Don't worry though, I been there man. You'll be back to normal in a few days, just going to have to wait it out until then. The comedowns of fake pills can be EXCRUCIATING, especially when the high was awful to begin with.. but, all things get better with time. Try to eat some food and be sure to drink water (not too much, but not too little), sleep when you can but don't try to force it. Best of luck.
 
Folly thanks for the advice. And no kit was able to pick up the Piperazine that's the new way they are making Molly in foreign counties then shipping that garbage done everyday. How long will the stupid shaking last?
 
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