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Rolling alone... :\

I actually want to try doing this. I have never done it before and I am actually interested in what it would be like. I mean dancing in my bedroom with my music blaring sounds kind of fun LoL
 
KaNdii kiSses said:
I actually want to try doing this. I have never done it before and I am actually interested in what it would be like. I mean dancing in my bedroom with my music blaring sounds kind of fun LoL
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Oh and just going for quiet walks and hearing, smelling and seeing all the stuff in a different light and in a really intense manner.

Plus with nobody else there to interrupt u it allows u to fully digest the power of the E and fully experience what it has to offer.

It is a truly amazing experience.
 
I would never pop a tab when I am alone! That is the most stupid thing I've ever heard of! :X

That to me is the equivelant of being in lock down in your cell by yourself!
 
BilZ0r said:
Drug-induced transcendence? That's a new one on me. But generally no. I believe that the brain is a highly tuned organ, and pissing around with it chemically, make its do stupid things, which at the time, might seem reasonable within your conciousness, but ultimately don't tend to hold much worth. Sure, you can come to meaningful conclusions, but I think that if someone should be able to come to those conclusions without the use of drugs.
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Wow, this is a surprising post. What do you say to the clinical trials of MDMA with people suffering from PTSD? Should these people be able to come to terms with their traumatic experience on their own or is there something in the drug that gives a little assistance? If a drug is able to let them deal with and accept their experience, then why shouldn't that be applicable to everyone else using MDMA? We all have our problems, sometimes we just don't know how to deal with them. It is entirely possible that rolling alone may provide that very insight.
 
The most profound expiriences I have had on X were alone. Learning about myself, thinking about your "life situation", you cannot deny using this drug really opens you up.

The most fun I'v had with X is with my close friends all just relaxing and having fun at a houseparty.

If you want a therepy session, take some alone. Sure it can be fun also, but I found it to be much more concentrated.
 
In all my days of doing E, I never did it alone.

The closest I've come is going home while I'm still high. I never found that to be too enjoyable.

Whatever floats your boat though, I love to do shrooms alone and no one else seems to appreciate that.
 
i rather enjoy rolling alone occasionally, but i won't do it unless i'm sure that i have some way out of being alone if i need it. generally just knowing there are people to call or talk to online is enough.

as for enjoying it by yourself, that's really a matter of personal preference. i'm content to just listen to music and chat online, usually.
 
If I was to pill alone, I think I'd close myself off from friends, try being lost in my own thought, own patterns of emotions. So I could deal and understand the reasons for the way I'm feeling, if I have an easy way out. eg communication with friends I think it may be too distracting and would detract from any profound life/spiritual changing aspects of the experience.

Although im not sure if its a trip I need to embark on at the moment as I am quite happy going out with friends partying and understanding my inner sense of euphoria
 
BE CAREFULL WHEN YOU ROLL ALONE!!!!

I used to roll alone back when I first discovered ecstasy. My third time doing it, I was walking around my apartment with the lights off and I smelled smoke. I turned the lights on and there was a THICK HAZE of smoke all throughout my apartment. I went into my spare bedroom, where I had an extra matress on the floor, and the matress was on fire!! I must've been in that bedroom earlier and dropped some ash from my cigarette on it and it caught on fire. I franticly grabbed the burning matress and dragged it out of the bedroom, across the living room and out onto my second floor balcony. Then, in my fucked-up E-haze I threw it over the edge of the balcony. Luckily my apartment at the time backed up to thick forest so no one saw me do it. I then spent the next 2 hours repeatetly pouring wated onto it from my balcony. (those bastards are hard to put when they're on fire). Needless to say, it ruined my high and since then...I've not rolled alone.


...go ahead, make fun of me.8)
 
Out of all the times I've rolled, I'd say about 60% were by myself. The rest were just me rolling, and no one else. I prefer acid for party's though.
 
Wow, this is a surprising post. What do you say to the clinical trials of MDMA with people suffering from PTSD? Should these people be able to come to terms with their traumatic experience on their own or is there something in the drug that gives a little assistance? If a drug is able to let them deal with and accept their experience, then why shouldn't that be applicable to everyone else using MDMA? We all have our problems, sometimes we just don't know how to deal with them. It is entirely possible that rolling alone may provide that very insight.
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What do I say to that clinical "trial"? You mean the published Greer and Tolbert, 1998? Well I don't say a heck of a lot. Its like on two people or something, with no controls, and no measures...

What do I say to the PROPOSED trial? Have fun. Do I think its going to help people in the long run? Well the trial is going to be so hard to decipher. The MDMA treated patients are going to be act very different to the control treated patients. Firstly, the controls are going to realize they're not on anything and get pissed, the MDMA treated subjects are going to talk a lot faster too probably, so they'll interact with the 'guide' a lot more rapidly.

Meanwhile, there are some other things which could be said, like if someone has PTSD, then there brain must in some way be pathological, so my statement about the brain being fine tuned no longer applies.

But really, I think the people would be about 10 times better off dealing with they're problems, if possible, through non-pharmacological interventions. I would hope that everyone who has "peaked" from MDMA has gotten the same amount of joy from "natural" stimuli, and I would argue that that makes it innately better. Analogously, if the empathy/openness/self-awareness induced by MDMA that is necessary for successful PTSD counseling could be induced by talking/meditation/thinking, then it would be worth more (and replicatable outside of a prescription).
 
BilZ0r - I was actually referring to the MAPS trial that is currently taking place, it began in April I believe. I would have thought that it would be a requirement of the study for the patient not to have ingested MDMA before... Given that, and the powerful potential of placebo, is it not possible that a control patient might think they had been administered with something?

Your point about the control patients being pissed is valid, but I thought that it would be a positive aspect to the study - if in fact the control patients open up in a similar way to the experimental (MDMA) patients, then it could be said that MDMA is no more beneficial to treating PTSD than other methods. This would surely help people in the long run, as research would be put into other methods, instead of MDMA trials.

I don't see how your comment regarding natural stimuli is relevant... Sure I have felt overwhelming joy from natural stimuli but not for 3 hours straight. I don't see what you're trying to get at. Why would it be a problem if someone using MDMA had never experienced the same kind of joy? Maybe they've had a shitty life... maybe they're naturally not an emotional person, why does it matter? I wouldn't consider "synthetic joy" any better or worse than natural stimuli, in the end, all it boils down to is a release of chemicals in the brain caused by some event - whether that be munching a pill or falling in love.
 
orderedelite said:
Wha? :)
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60% were me totally alone, and most of the rest were me in a group, but the only one rolling. Almost none of my party friends roll. We were acid heads, but I had an affinity for rolling as well. Usually after I was coming off the acid though, so um yeah...
 
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