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waldo777

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My friend is about to take ecstasy for the 1st time in 8 years, back then he needed 6 pills at once to get worthwhile effects. About 7 years ago he tried it again, only taking 4 pills and felt nothing at all--and he knew the pills were not bunk.
So, how many would you say he should take the 1st go? Doesn't have time to obtain a testing kit, and even if did and pills tested + for other chems, hed probably take it/them anyway.

What are peoples thoughts, recommendations?
 
7 years is a long time. id think that would be plenty long enough. if the pills are legit and he doesnt get any effects off of em dudes brain must be fried.
 
Yes that is lots of time lose the tolerance that he had before. I didn't touch MDMA for 6 years and then was able to roll off 1.5 (1 then redose). But it depends on the quality of the pills and all that. If you don't know the quality of your pills then of course taking the least possible the first time is the safest.
 
Yeah he stopped b/c he needed to take so many pills @ once it began to become dangerous, and hed barely feel a thing anyway.

To the poster who rolled after a 6 year hiatus, how was the experience? Just like the 1st time, or more like the last time?
 
It was very enjoyable, although I would say the rolls I had after that were better. I can't really remember my first time to be honest, but I wouldn't consider my first experience to have been the best one anyways. If the main concern is whether or not he will be able to roll nicely off a more reasonable amount, I wouldn't be too worried.
 
If it were me Id take one, then wait an hour see how he feels.. Then take another as needed... wait another 30 mins.. then increase from there.....
 
I'm usually pretty satisfied with the 150-250 mgs range of MDMA so based on what Ive read decent quality pills carry I'd suggest 2 double drop.
 
waldo777 said:
My friend is about to take ecstasy for the 1st time in 8 years, back then he needed 6 pills at once to get worthwhile effects. About 7 years ago he tried it again, only taking 4 pills and felt nothing at all--and he knew the pills were not bunk.
So, how many would you say he should take the 1st go? Doesn't have time to obtain a testing kit, and even if did and pills tested + for other chems, hed probably take it/them anyway.

What are peoples thoughts, recommendations?
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alright I dont know if you meant your friend has had a 8 year total layoff doing it as recreational, as in almost every week 2 or more times a week, AND then did it after one year and took 4 pills? but if thats the case then thats some insane stuff cause a year layoff is a huge amount of time and to feel nothing at all amazing..

double drop and they will have the most amazing time.. if they dont they are robots
 
Something strange goin on here with your story OP. Very hard to believe he took years off then came back and dropped 4 confirmed mdma pills AT ONCE and felt nothing. Something is going on...is he on antidepressants? That's my guess because that's the only time I've seen this occuring.

I have friends that I gave a handful of confirmed quality pills to after they took much time off and who also had high tolerances and they just started sweating profusely with no roll...but both I found out were on antidepressants. Soon as they stopped and tried again, they rolled hard off one pill.

I had a tolerance just like your friend and after taking a year or more off, I might wind up taking like 5 pills over the course of an evening in order to roll hard, but dropping all of them at once after that much time off? Something's not adding up. Talk to your friend. No way his seratonin hasn't replenished by now.
 
Well my friend was never on antidepressants, was taking xtc for about 2.5 years straight: 3-4 times during the school week and every weekend until he needed 6 pills @ once to feel any effects. He didn't stop on his own, his friends became concerned that he was taking so many pills that they informed his parents, who initiated random drug testing, causing my friend to quit. About a year later when everything had blown over, he was with a girl who wanted to try xtc for the 1st time and so he dropped with her. (White tazmanian devils, she took 1 and was flying, he took 4 and nada...) Its been about 8 years since then, he knows that 1 year didn't effect his tolerance, but was thinking 8 definately would, thus the question:

Take 1 and see, then re-dose as needed? Or take 2-3?
 
Starting with 1 is the safest way to do it. He has no idea what his tolerance is or what the strength of the pills are.
 
Regardless of a prior tolerance then if you have taken a break you should look at the drug as if you were a new user - 90 - 120mgs as a starter drop (more if your big build etc).

It will be very easy for him to automatically want to take the same amount of pills he was using and he can easily tell himself that 2 pills isnt enough. Its a strange one when you have been used to taking say 10 pills per night to change the experience to 3 or 4 pills (I know that one first hand).
 
If one can't roll after an 8 year break... there are probably more serious issues than not being able to roll anymore.
 
Very true, 1st thing my friend thought of after taking the 4 pills after a 1 year break was: "sh*t did I fry my seratonin(sic?) receptors?!?!"
 
I took about 5 years off, after years of heavy use. before starting again. I definitely enjoy the rolls, but they are not as strong/enjoyable as before.
I recently came across some great pills (sadly, now gone) and found that 1-2 pills worked nicely to start. But I agree with Bearlove above that it's good to contemplate and adjust one's expectations. It's easy to overdo it if you remember heavy use in the past.
 
If he can't roll after 8 years then there's something he's not telling you (use of anti-depressants maybe?)
 
waldo777 said:
Well my friend was never on antidepressants, was taking xtc for about 2.5 years straight: 3-4 times during the school week and every weekend until he needed 6 pills @ once to feel any effects. He didn't stop on his own, his friends became concerned that he was taking so many pills that they informed his parents, who initiated random drug testing, causing my friend to quit. About a year later when everything had blown over, he was with a girl who wanted to try xtc for the 1st time and so he dropped with her. (White tazmanian devils, she took 1 and was flying, he took 4 and nada...) Its been about 8 years since then, he knows that 1 year didn't effect his tolerance, but was thinking 8 definately would, thus the question:

Take 1 and see, then re-dose as needed? Or take 2-3?
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Def start with 1 and re-dose as needed as others have said.

Regarding your friend, he might want to consider the possibility of getting addicted again. If he's determined to roll, he should consider that when you've had such a high tolerance, you're not going to roll hard every time anymore. IME, other factors start to play a larger roll in how hard the mdma seems to hit you...things like environmental factors...who you're with, the music you're hearing, your mood and state of mind going into the roll, etc. For me, I only seem to have really good hard rolls now when all of these factors are aligned in addition to the pills being good. I'm sort of reiterating what Bearlove said, your friend needs to adjust his expectations. IME, it's when I go into rolls now not expecting much that I'm pleasantly surprised. When I really try to plan it too much or force it, I'm usually disappointed.
 
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