Rolling 4 days apart?

[WorldWarMe]

I rolled 4 days ago completely forgetting about my best friends birthday (I was really baked), which is tomorrow. We've been planning on rolling on his birthday for two months, and I would feel terrible if I backed out.

If I rolled tomorrow would it even do anything? They're very clean pills, also. After rolling 4 days ago I've taken 100mg 5-HTP when I wake up and before I went to sleep, so I should have a BIT of serotonin left (if any).

Would it be fine to roll tomorrow? Also, how bad is it to roll so close together for your brain?

 

[exarkann]

not advisable.

however, since you will probally do it anyways, i would suggest a longish break after. dont expect to roll ballz though.

 

[WorldWarMe]

I'm going to do it anyways, obviously, but I'm just looking for some advice on what would happen.
I rarely roll (1-4 months apart usually), so I'll definitely have a long break after.

Edit: I did 3.5 pills over the period of 7 hours 4 days ago. I usually need a full pill to roll, so how many should I do tomorrow? 1.5?

 

[exarkann]

i honestly havent the slightest idea.

i'd aim for a low dose, and plan on just feeling yummy as opposed to full on rolling. think of it as getting tipsy instead of drunk.

 

[timmm]

You will roll for sure

My guess is that youre frying your brains a bit there

 

[MasterSplinter]

i honestly havent the slightest idea.

i'd aim for a low dose, and plan on just feeling yummy as opposed to full on rolling. think of it as getting tipsy instead of drunk.

Shulgins Law clearly states that for each bean you take you have to take 2/3 more then your orginal dose to feel the same effex again. Since you popped beans a couple dayz ago, you will have to do twice as much not half

 

[exarkann]

Shulgin's Law? citation needed.

also, the second part of my statement was intended for harm reduction reasons. you don't have to go ballz deep every time, and taking twice as much just to reach the same level as 4 days ago just screams Bad Idea™.

 

[dyslecstasy]

you'll roll

i'll roll sometimes 2 days in a row or spread out a few days. it's not very good for you but just make sure to take 5htp supplements after you roll and try not to roll again for several weeks. it'll work but it's not good for your body. also make sure you eat well and exercise... do those things anyways, but if you don't, it will help the process of you getting back to normal and feeling good after you use drugs.

 

[sir_thizzalot]

Some people are stupid. Even the Dancesafe slideshow which I thought was pretty well done gets this part wrong:

If you have no tolerance, and roll one day, then a few days later if you roll again you'll probably still get great effects. Since you apparently dropped a few times a few days ago that won't help, but it will still work rolling tomorrow. Then space things out.. IMO dosing multiple times makes it extra bad for you compared to one larger dose(I like to roll hard.. so if I was dosing enough times to roll that hard all night I'd be Etarded fast).

I got sidetracked... it's not like one time rolling actually empties all your serotonin. If that was true then re-dosing wouldn't do anything(which we know, if you don't have some big tolerance, re-dosing is great(too bad it's bad for you..)!).

EDIT: first line wasn't aimed at OP, just ideas people have in general about this stuff..

 

[WorldWarMe]

I generally know a lot about MDMA since I've researched it for over 5 years, I just like to get second opinions on stuff that could damage me, that's just how my brain works I guess.

How long after doing MDMA should I wait to take 100mg 5-HTP? Would it be safe to do during the comedown (4 or so hours after peak)? I know you risk getting Serotonin Syndrome but I've taken 5-HTP about 3-4 hours after peak before and had no bad effects, but I haven't taken it after MDMA in a while.

^ Sry if that makes no sense, I'm really baked o.0

 

[exarkann]

as far as I've experianced, serotonin syndrome is more of a risk to concider with dex, not mdma. 5htp on the comedown shouldn't be an issue, imo.

 

[WorldWarMe]

So taking around 100mg about 4 hours after peaking should be safe, right?

 

[exarkann]

yup. don't expect it to ease the comedown though.

also note 5htp works best over longish term use. just be sure to abstain a couple days before a roll.

 

[WorldWarMe]

yup. don't expect it to ease the comedown though.

also note 5htp works best over longish term use. just be sure to abstain a couple days before a roll.

Why abstain before a roll? Because of Serotonin Syndrome or killing the roll? Also, I use 5-HTP to help sleep after a roll, not to ease the comedown.

 

[exarkann]

I've read all over bluelight and other places that 5htp use in the couple days before a roll tends to dampen it. no idea what the mechinisim is, but many of the statements come from trusted bluelighters experimenting in the wild ;-)