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Robin Williams - at the going down of the sun..

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Ismene

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Robin Williams has been found dead "asphyxiated" from suicide. Not sure how - maybe a bag over the head? Can't say I found him funny but he was good in a few serious films, the one where he played a jew in the holocaust springs to mind.
 
:( <3 RIP, such sad news, the world has lost an inspirational legend with a beautiful heart. never knew him but somehow it feels like I did, made part of my childhood. Battling addictions throughout his life. who knows how much of that energy came from coke, and when off it how crashing the lows were

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Come on now, you've never even met the man, so with all due respect I don't think it's comparable to losing a friend.
 
yes alright that was a v bad comparison, an acquaintance maybe, fuck knows. made a mistake taking this al-lad on abit of a comedown and then turning the news on, not particularly the best time for this trippy shit
 
Don't trip and watch the news. Unless a dark trip is what you're looking for, in which case fair enough.

On-topic: I grew up with repeats of Mork & Mindy, so the loss feels sadder than it would otherwise, though I also respect he had his 'serious' career too.

Sad that success didn't seem to make him any happier, but we all know that's often the case.
 
class-a-team said:
Come on now, you've never even met the man, so with all due respect I don't think it's comparable to losing a friend.
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Saying that though, there are a few actors who seem so genuine and warm on screen as well as interviews, that if feels like you know them and like them on a personal level and not just the characters they play. Im fortunate enough to have not lost any friends thus far, but i would imagine that it would be comparable (not talking about loosing a best friend here, justa friend)
 
I know what you're saying, SP - you feel as if you 'know' these people, but it's totally illusory; based on the persona they choose to present or the roles in which they're cast.

That's quite distinct from knowing someone 'properly', warts and all. It's not the same sense of loss when they die, even though it can be quite profound.

Course there's always the question as to what extent we ever really 'know' another person at all, or whether outwardly 'warm' and 'friendly' personalities are any reliable indicator of what's under the surface (which they very often aren't).

That's for another thread though, I reckon.
 
Illusory it may be, but that illusion can still create the same types of feelings that you would feel towards someone you actually knew. Im not speaking from experience here, so i could be completely wrong, but thats the way i think it would work out. With the vast media coverage of celebrities these days, i would imagine that its hard not to feel like you a part of their life (in this case i mean the type of people that read those gossip magazines).

I think to a certain extent you can tell if an actor is a complete arsehole or a genuinely nice person. Not so much from their on-screen performances, but the interviews they do. Of course theyre still putting on a persona, but if someone is a prick it normally shows no matter how hard they try to hide it.
 
Spliff Politics said:
Illusory it may be, but that illusion can still create the same types of feelings that you would feel towards someone you actually knew. Im not speaking from experience here, so i could be completely wrong, but thats the way i think it would work out.
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It evokes some similar feelings, but they're not quite the same.

Speaking from experience, I was heartbroken when Lou Reed died. The man had influenced me since my teens, and his influence grows as I mature, rather than fading. Lou was always there, and Lou always had something to say.

A few months ago, my father died. The guy was in and out of my life since the age of six, we had a difficult relationship where we sometimes wouldn't communicate for years, and the main (conscious) influences he had on me were often negative. He was not an easy guy to get on with, let alone to love.

I was, and still am, devastated about the latter. The former? It's a sad thought, but it doesn't cut anywhere near as deep.

Like I said, best left to another thread.
 
Alright i do have a couple more things to say on the subject, but as you say, lets not clutter up the thread! (Sorry to hear about your old man btw - i know it doesnt seem genuine coming from a randomer on the internet, but its always shit to hear of such things :()

Dan if you read this, could you post that video of Ol' Robin, cracked up to the gazoo in an interview? Thats how he should be remembered - such was the amount of stimulants in his body, all he could do was twitch about and let out strange noises :D Pure class
 
Sammy G said:
Speaking from experience, I was heartbroken when Lou Reed died. The man had influenced me since my teens, and his influence grows as I mature, rather than fading. Lou was always there, and Lou always had something to say.
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I feel very much the same way.
I'm still sad that Lou Reed died, he was a similar guiding light through all the bullshit in the world.
A strong voice that gives us hope, or a better glimpse into what it is to be human.
Lou wasnt a celebrity.
He was an artist, a poet, a playwright, a photographer, a painter.

He spent his time on this earth reflecting it back in whatever medium suited him at the time, and his perception and humanity shines through.
He wasnt perfect - nobody is.
But as an artist, a famous person, a "mirror" to our own lives (if you will) - his life work was something profound and touched upon thoughts and feelings many of us share or appreciate.
It is in this way we are touched by that artistic body of work and therefore the creator's persona. The grief or sadness at their passing is not the same as the sort of grief we feel when a close loved one dies - but I agree, it is similar.

I think the same can be said about Robin Williams for a lot of folk. He seemed to radiate warmth and love.
It is sad that a man driven to make others laugh - who excelled at it for decades - got to the point that the sadness overwhelmed him to the point of apparently taking his life.

Also, shit Dad joke busty, you stupid cunt.

Edit - don't forget that RW apparently stopped using coke in the 80s or something. I had previously heard he was Bipolar...but fuck knows, I didnt know the guy.
 
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Just to point out - i was never saying it would be comparable to loosing a close loved one, but rather just someone your friendly with (and i even made sure to point this out, ya bunch of goofs :D)
 
Spliff Politics said:
Saying that though, there are a few actors who seem so genuine and warm on screen as well as interviews, that if feels like you know them and like them on a personal level and not just the characters they play. Im fortunate enough to have not lost any friends thus far, but i would imagine that it would be comparable (not talking about loosing a best friend here, justa friend)
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Spliff Politics said:
Just to point out - i was never saying it would be comparable to loosing a close loved one, but rather just someone your friendly with (and i even made sure to point this out, ya bunch of goofs :D)
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Ah, right. Maybe 'acquaintance' is a better word than 'friend' if you want to avoid such ambiguities, as to me a 'friend' is a close loved one by definition, whereas people outside of that circle, however cordial my relations with them may be, are 'acquaintances', 'guys I kinda know', etc.

I accept that the usage of the word is looser among many people, especially these days, but such are the times we live in I guess.

Poor old Robin Williams, then.

spacejunk said:
I had previously heard he was Bipolar...but fuck knows, I didnt know the guy.
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Indeed he was. And stable for a good few years apparently. Just goes to show how insidious a condition it can be.
 
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