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RIP, Muhammad Ali

Absolute nonsense.

All his appeals against the war, were on religious grounds.

Why Did Muhammad Ali Refuse To Be Drafted? His Vietnam War Opposition Had Everything To Do With His Faith
http://www.bustle.com/articles/1648...s-vietnam-war-opposition-had-everything-to-do




That great faith, which he also rejected when a few pretty ladeez called by

Are you talking about his legal appeals?

Of course you'll use religion, no one ever gets out of obeying the law by the I don't want to defence. Well unless you are a rich white guy.

Ali was black if you were wondering
 
^ Oh right, so it's nothing to do with his religion - which is a complete sham now? He just lies about all that because he doesn't like America? Real integrity, eh?
 
The guy threw his Olympic gold medal in the river the day he arrived back from Tokyo because he was called a nigger. I'm pretty sure his hatred of Uncle Sam outlived his hatred of George Foreman
 
The guy threw his Olympic gold medal in the river the day he arrived back from Tokyo because he was called a nigger. I'm pretty sure his hatred of Uncle Sam outlived his hatred of George Foreman

Right. So he lies about his fraudulent faith, to get out of war.... coz some guy called him a n*****


And this is the great man of integrity we should all admire....


I'm off to bed.


RIP Ali
 
Absolute nonsense.

All his appeals against the war, were on religious grounds.

No. You seem to think a bit of extramarital sex, of which Ali is of course the only guilty man in the world (when was the last time you had sex btw Raas?) outweighs this? You're crazy.

Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality. If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail, so what? We’ve been in jail for 400 years.
 
It's really telling to see Ali articulate his convictions so brilliantly here, then to consider how Kanye West believes himself to be some sort of genius/prophet.

In relation to the extramarital sex issue - Bob Marley is considered by some as some sort of holy figure, but he was a notorious womaniser. Rita Marley was well aware of it but says she never gave him much grief over it because of the goodness of his message (presumably smoke lots of weed and get one's willy wet).
 
He was my father. I am terribly shaken by this loss. I will never be the same, .... oh no Jack Black was victim to a death hoax on twitter.
 
No. You seem to think a bit of extramarital sex, of which Ali is of course the only guilty man in the world (when was the last time you had sex btw Raas?) outweighs this? You're crazy.

We're not talking a "bit of extramarital sex". Ali was a serial adulterer. In his 4 marriages he has 9 children and there's countless others who claim to be his children from all the affairs he had. Prior to his "Rumble in the Jungle" fight, he used training as an excuse to disappear with his mistresses - while married.

basically, guy was a total dog lol
 
One thing people get ass backwards - Ali didn't become a "muslim" till the late 80s/early 90s. What he was in is the "nation of islam". Apart from calling the god allah and not eating pork there's pretty much fuck all simillarities between the two. The nation of islam believes the world was created 6000 years ago by an evil genius, all whites are blue eyed devils etc. It was a shame Ali got mixed up with those fucking idiots.
 
The guy threw his Olympic gold medal in the river the day he arrived back from Tokyo because he was called a nigger. I'm pretty sure his hatred of Uncle Sam outlived his hatred of George Foreman

That's another myth they made up after the fact. His olympic medal just got lost.

And I don't think Ali had fuck-all to do with the decision not to join the army. He could've just joined like Joe Louis did, do a few exhibitions. The nation of islam had some fucking gormless plan and ended up fucking it up completely. Then to try and salvage something they made up the "righteous" reasons like "no cong ever called me nigger". We never even saw Ali at his best - those 3 years he was out he was getting bigger and maintaining his speed and he still had his legs. He would've been unbeatable. When he came back his legs had gone.
 
His charisma won him a lot of fans but personally it was his integrity which stood out. He sacrificed personal glory to stand up for his values and was probably the most courageous civil rights fighter in history.

Bonus points for being a witty motherfucker to boot

I don't think I've ever read you say anything say complimentary about anyone before. %) I take it you were / are a huge admirer / fan of the guy.
 
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