Right to remain silent? Suspect better speak up

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Right to remain silent? Suspect better speak up
JESSE J. HOLLAND
The AP
6.1.10



WASHINGTON – Want to invoke your right to remain silent? You'll have to speak up.
In a narrowly split decision, the Supreme Court's conservative majority expanded its limits on the famous Miranda rights for criminal suspects on Tuesday — over the dissent of new Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who said the ruling turned Americans' rights of protection from police abuse "upside down."
Justice Anthony Kennedy, who wrote the majority opinion, said a suspect who goes ahead and talks to police after being informed he doesn't have to has waived his right to remain silent. Elena Kagan, who has been nominated by President Barack Obama to join the court, sided with the police as U.S. solicitor general when the case came before the court. She would replace Justice John Paul Stevens, one of the dissenters.
A right to remain silent and a right to a lawyer are at the top of the warnings that police recite to suspects during arrests and interrogations. But Tuesday's majority said that suspects must break their silence and tell police they are going to remain quiet to stop an interrogation, just as they must tell police that they want a lawyer.
This decision means that police can keep shooting questions at a suspect who refuses to talk as long as they want in hopes that the person will crack and give them some information, said Richard Friedman, a University of Michigan law professor.
"It's a little bit less restraint that the officers have to show," Friedman said.
The ruling comes in a case in which a suspect, Van Chester Thompkins, remained mostly silent for a three-hour police interrogation before implicating himself in a Jan. 10, 2000, murder in Southfield, Mich. He appealed his conviction, saying he had invoked his Miranda right to remain silent by remaining silent.
Kennedy, writing the decision for the court's conservatives, said that wasn't enough.
"Thompkins did not say that he wanted to remain silent or that he did not want to talk to police," Kennedy said. "Had he made either of these simple, unambiguous statements, he would have invoked his 'right to cut off questioning.' Here he did neither, so he did not invoke his right to remain silent."
He was joined in the 5-4 opinion by Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito.
Prosecutors cheered the decision, saying it takes the guesswork out of when police have to stop questioning suspects. "Is it too much to ask for a criminal suspect to say he doesn't want to talk to police?" said Scott Burns, executive director of the National District Attorneys Association.
This is the third time this session that the Supreme Court has placed limits on Miranda rights, which come from a 1966 decision — it involved police questioning of Ernesto Miranda in a rape and kidnapping case in Phoenix — requiring officers to tell suspects they have the right to remain silent and to have a lawyer represent them, even if they can't afford one.
Earlier this term, the high court ruled that a suspect's request for a lawyer is good for only 14 days after the person is released from police custody — the first time the court has placed a time limit on a request for a lawyer — and that police do not have to explicitly tell suspects they have a right to a lawyer during an interrogation.
For Justice Sotomayor, deciding to make suspects speak to have the right to remain silent was a step too far. Sotomayor, the court's newest member, wrote a strongly worded dissent for the court's liberals, saying the majority's decision "turns Miranda upside down."
"Criminal suspects must now unambiguously invoke their right to remain silent — which counterintuitively requires them to speak," she said. "At the same time, suspects will be legally presumed to have waived their rights even if they have given no clear expression of their intent to do so. Those results, in my view, find no basis in Miranda or our subsequent cases and are inconsistent with the fair-trial principles on which those precedents are grounded."
She was joined in her dissent by Stevens, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.
Supreme Court nominee Kagan had sided with the police in this case. As solicitor general, she told the Supreme Court that the Constitution "does not require that the police interpret ambiguous statements as invocations of Miranda rights."
"An unambiguous-invocation requirement for the right to remain silent and terminate questioning strikes the appropriate balance between protecting the suspect's rights and permitting valuable police investigation," Kagan said in court papers.
Thompkins was arrested for murder in 2001 and questioned by police for three hours. At the beginning, he was read his Miranda rights and said he understood.
The officers in the room said Thompkins said little during the interrogation, occasionally answering "yes," "no," "I don't know," nodding his head and making eye contact as his responses. But when one of the officers asked him if he prayed for forgiveness for "shooting that boy down," Thompkins said, "Yes."
He was convicted, but on appeal he wanted that statement thrown out because he said he had invoked his Miranda rights by being uncommunicative with the interrogating officers.
The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati agreed and threw out his confession and conviction. The high court reversed that decision.
"In sum, a suspect who has received and understood the Miranda warnings, and has not invoked his Miranda rights, waives the right to remain silent by making an uncoerced statement to police," Kennedy said. "Thompkins did not invoke his right to remain silent and stop the questioning. Understanding his rights in full, he waived his right to remain silent by making a voluntary statement to the police. The police, moreover, were not required to obtain a waiver of Thompkins' right to remain silent before interrogating him."
Sotomayor called that reasoning "a substantial retreat from the protection against compelled self-incrimination that Miranda v. Arizona has long provided during custodial interrogation."

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As if america wasent turning into enough of a police state as it is. Just remember to keep your goddamn mouth shut at all costs as any decent lawyer will tell you that talking to the police is the worst thing you can do. If the cops say anything to you say nothing else besides i want a lawyer simple as that. Keep saying that until they give you that right or beat you senseless. One or the other :|
 
As if america wasent turning into enough of a police state as it is. Just remember to keep your goddamn mouth shut at all costs as any decent lawyer will tell you that talking to the police is the worst thing you can do. If the cops say anything to you say nothing else besides i want a lawyer simple as that. Keep saying that until they give you that right or beat you senseless. One or the other :|

In the US, it is likely the other.
 
In the US, it is likely the other.

Well since it's kinda hard to talk after getting knocked out that solves the problem of keeping your mouth shut :\

I live in canada (on the opposite coast that you do) and have only been arrested once. When i got to the cop shop they asked if i wanted to make a statement or call a lawyer. I said i want a lawyer now and the cop practically threw the fucking phone book at me lol. He was even more pissed off when i was too damn drunk to dial the fucking number so he had to do it =D
 
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Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC!

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yeah... it is completely jacked. i have always just kept my mouth shut the entire time. cops use to just know i was invoking my rights.

anyway i know tons of people incriminate themselves every day. its human nature to want to explain. its in our nature to try and talk our way out of things. POLICE ARE PROFESSIONAL WITNESSES. it is their job to throw you in jail. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING TO THEM (other then your invoking your miranda rights)
 
doesn't seem too bad. If this guy was supposedly invoking his right to remain silent, then why was he providing answers such as "yes" and "no". This doesn't sound like much in my largely uniformed opinion.

Also, I don't think this is really a drug article.
 
yeah it doesnt mention drugs but it does effect the vast majority of drug users in the US.

he was questioned for 3 hours. it does not go into when he started actually responding. he could have been answering questions with a yes and no for the last 10 minutes. regardless, it is a change in policy, and as many people should know about it as possible IMO.
 
I had a customer that is a retired detective. I ran into him at the bar, and told him that I had been arrested for posession and asked for advise...

First thing he told me was "I was a detective.... Don't ever speak to police, get a lawyer. They will twist things around if you talk."
 
I had a customer that is a retired detective. I ran into him at the bar, and told him that I had been arrested for posession and asked for advise...

First thing he told me was "I was a detective.... Don't ever speak to police, get a lawyer. They will twist things around if you talk."

complete truth
 
Don't tell the cops anything. Invoke your right to remain silent. Everything you say will be used against you. Don't make it easy for the pigs.
 
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