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REVELATION caused by DATURA

This is a HARM REDUCTION forum. I have empathy for all the unseen people who stumble across this thread and decide it's safe to take datura twice a week for 2 years because the OP says it is and half the respondents seem to be almost congratulating him for it.
 
Psychonautical said:
Those people, aren't real. They are figments of your distorted perceptions due to the simple fact you ate yourself stupid with Datura every day.
When I consumed an entire pod of these seeds. I wasn't "okay" for several weeks.
Font would scramble, and spell different things, none of it nice
Late at night there would be people in my apartment, harassing me. with yelling perverse and violent things at me.
generally right after i had just fallen asleep only to find myself waking up with this sinister looking monsterous guy standing at the end of my bed yelling at me.
Only to realize that he isn't there, i can put my hand through him, and this could actually be a piece of time, re-enacting itself.

I honestly do not think i ever got over that trip up until i visited a sweat lodge and received some serious shamanic therapy.

Mind i put myself through all of this when i was like 16-17 years old.

I am almost 30 now.
Having only done Datura twice, the second time foolishly was to see if the seeds i was fed by this random person at my highschool, were actually the same seeds.
That trip had purpose and meaning and depth and magnitude. But there is a sinister evil attached to those seeds, which does follow you.

I do not suffer from any true mental illness which i consider detrimental to my health or my life.
Due to the fact i found coping mechanisms and techniques for spiritual defense which allowed me to solidify the mind state that i had put myself into, and never totally understood.

But if you enjoy playing Russian Roulette with your brain and Potent neurotoxins. Like atropine and scopoloamine, we can't do anything except tell you Not To.
Ultimately this psychosis is your own. Remember schizophrenia is probably one of those loneliest mental conditions anyone could ever ask to have.

Here you are fast tracking yourself into it, without any rhyme or reason, trying to flaunt your balls for doing Datura more than once. It's not funny. It's stupid.

I'm going to tell you right now, that you don't have any special power, you think you do. You are imagining there are people following you wanting to kill you.
It's a figment the demon seeds will plant. It's something you are going to have to cope and deal with until you realize that all of this is a figment of your damage.
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Well said. The people I know who use lots of DMT either as crystals they freebase or in Ayahuasca in combination with tree Datura, as many Ayahuasca admixtures in countries where it's completely legal to take Ayahuasca do include tree Datura or Brugmansia became like what you described in your post where they thought the hallucinations they experienced while on either or both DMT and Datura are more real than reality is.

Good luck Grigore. I did not read the entire thread. If you actually have been to a psychiatric hospital why did you have to go twice that you posted about? If things get really bad for you try posting in the dark side or the mental health forums here, and contact a medical and/or mental health professional.

Grigore said:
It's an extreme form of masturbation,you might have seen it in the pain olympics video,if you haven't,watch it now.
I'm not talking only about ejaculating on my cactus,that's just the way I end my daily sexual routine that I have with him.

It's one of my fetishes that I'm normally embarrassed of,but when I'm tripping,I'm proud to talk about it.
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I looked up the video you mentioned. There's a summary of it here. It's not safe for work.



I've met people who were into CBT (cock and ball "torture" where the "torture" is consensual by all people) but this is rather extreme but these people are adults and it is their choice to do this to their own bodies. I have no interest in mutilating my own genitals but if others want to do this to themselves it is their choice as they are adults.

Yes the part about masturbating on a cactus was very hilarious. Plants can apparently feel pain and sense trauma. I doubt the cactus enjoys having you ejaculate semen onto it.

I hope you do not get a large spine in your urethra, or that it does not pierce your scrotum. Or if you own a prickly pear cactus or a cactus that has very fine, hair-like, barbed thorns called glochids that they don't get embedded into your genitals and make them itch. Some people have sexual fetishes or kinks. I saw a video on xtube where a man masturbated onto some corn plants that were growing in hopes that it would help them grow up strong, and other videos on that site where men would purposely pee on leaves either dead or alive to hear the sound it made when they would piss. I am not into those kinks or what the original poster is into but I found those videos on people's profiles on xtube.

A month ago I saw part of a prickly pear cactus while out walking and I touched it with winter gloves on. I'm still getting glochoids out of my gloves and when they get embedded into my fingers and hands. Or maybe you are into various sensations caused by the cactus and want that to happen to your genitals?
 
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To whether or not this is a real story doesn't matter. It is not our place to decide for everyone else what to belive is true or not. No one is forcing anyone to reply to this thread so you have the full rights to turn a blind eye should you choose to, or you can keep shouting "blasphemy" all you want but in the end it's a waste of time.

And regarding the subject of cacti masturbation? Get over yourselves -_- everyone has their fetishes. Judging someone based on their sexual preferences and actions (provided they are consensual) is just as bad as judging someone based on their drug use, which from my understanding is the opposite of this site? We are supposed to be an open minded community.
besides.. I found the fact that his cactus was "not nice" when he spoke to it because he regularly ejaculate on it to be quite hillarious!

I would like to consider myself one of the non flamers here who was only interested in the safety and we'll being of a possible psychotic breakdown happening somewhere in the world. Even if the supportive words meant nothing to him during his trip, he still gets to have the peace of mind that people were trying to help him after he was lucid enough to read this thread again. However that being said he also gets to now experience the darker side of people who just want to yell "bullshit" so they can pat themselves on the back and call themselves smart upon the POSSIBLY of proof being revealed that they were right. Good for you guys </sarcasm>

I understand that yes there could be people none the wiser who stumble upon this thread assuming that this is somthing safe to do. All we can do is hope that they read the whole thing to see how horrible it was. The op even admitted it was wrong! So yes.. I get that some of you may be interested in the well being of those who may take this experience the wrong way and try it themselves, but you're really not going to do anyone any good by continually trying to poke holes in the story like you're some kind of sherlock homes.
 
@buildersoftime
Well generally speaking, a warning about the dangers can be issued without attacking the OP. Plus, don't you think it would quickly become obvious to a reader that what the OP has done is not very safe at all, judging by the content of those revelations? I just don't see how anyone would repeat that trial, had he just read the original post. Either way, warnings can be issued without the harshness seen in this thread. There just is no reason for it whatsoever. If people are met like that whenever they do something stupid, soon no one will dare to post about their own "more heroic" trials at all anymore.
 
^ as mentioned earlier, this is a continuation of a previous thread which was closed. When taken together the picture that emerges is the unfolding of an increasingly disturbing story with far too many people using words like "kudos" and "respect" in response. I highly doubt that the OP has taken datura twice a week for two years and is still able to type. Whether all the claims made were delusions caused by a single datura experience or simply trolling, the outcome is the same. Someone who is skimming the forums looking to justify what they're about to do, might stumble across this thread and use the OP's claims as a yardstick by which to judge their own actions.

There have been too many occasions on here when people emerge, post about their plans with datura, we all tell them not to, they do it anyway and we never hear from them again. We assume that at least in some cases, the unfortunate outcome is death or permanent injury, an outcome that we were powerless to stop. A further concern is all the people who read but don't post. How many of them do we lose every year? Well, in the name of harm reduction I'm bloody well going to speak up when I see someone having a very public, datura induced psychotic episode and a bunch of bluelighters are practically congratulating them for it.

Plus live trip reporting is against forum rules.
 
I've yet to see one person congratulate or encourage this.. support for his better being and interest in the outcome perhaps but I can't recall anyone without reading the entire thread over again a single person who said "yeah way to go buddy! Try taking 500 next time!"

I feel like there is little or no point in trying to argue with anyone here including the op,

What do you expect him to say? "Yeah guys u rite I just trollin lul"
Even if he was (which I personaly belive he was not; regardless of which facts seemed sketchy. Perhaps he had false memories of taking Datura every day. For all we know this whole time he claimed to be taking more he may have just been chomping on m&m s thinking they were a drug!
 
No,I'm dead serious about this,I've actually taken datura twice a week for two years.
If there is a way of proving this,please present it to me.You are not making me a favor if you believe me or not,but,if you really want me to prove this,tell me how and I'll prove it to you,for you.
If people still think that I'm trolling,well,that's pathetic.

And as I mentioned before,I've lost my real life social skills,my strong emotions,partially lost my memory,balance,math skills and ''deformed'' my way of thinking.

So,everyone thinks I'm fine?
@buildersoftime Do you mean that I should be dead? Do you mean that it's a mistake that I'm alive?
What do you want to say with that?

I don't want any applause for taking datura twice a week for 2 years,it brought no benefit,better said,it only had severe negative effects.I must admit that my dream was not ''smart'' at all.
I'm conscious that I could've died,but,if I'm still alive and decide not to mess with datura anymore,isn't this a better way of learning from it than the lesson that you can get from it that consists in dying?
 
You do not need to prove it to me personaly. It matters little to me whether or not you really did In fact eat them as often as you did. It's quite clear that any amount you have ingested has resulted in what has happened over the last couple days (which is the true focus right now)

Im not even sure if there is a drug test for datura, I tried a quick Google but I didn't find anything of much use but I did read a story about someone who ended up in the hospital, the doctors unsure of what he had taken and we're unable to test his blood or urine for any positive screening.

However this being said I'd like to know how you managed yo get all those seeds. We're they sold to you? Given to you? Did you grow the plants yourself?

I can't imagen how you must feel. I just hope you eventually seek help, I don't think that is the kind of experience one can just walk away from.
 
Not sure if its been covered
But how have you been paying bills cleaning your house and feeding your self
 
I'm conscious that I could've died,but,if I'm still alive and decide not to mess with datura anymore,isn't this a better way of learning from it than the lesson that you can get from it that consists in dying?
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Yes it is.
 
Seems like a useless thread to me. Im honestly surprised its still open seeing as how it was a live trip report and the OP honestly isnt asking any question.
 
Jesus, people, LAY OFF. There is absolutely NO POINT in heckling the OP. I for one am glad this thread remained open.
 
@ChipTrippyFox I've found datura stramonium growing outside my city on an open field,took few young specimens and few seed pods from mature daturas.
Planted the young specimens in my backyard and buried few hundred seeds in the ground as well.
And now I got around 10k seeds from 15 datura plants that are currently growing in my backyard.

@gymstud my grandparents both died 5 years ago and gave me their apartment,I'm currently renting it,my parents recently bought 2 apartments in order to rent them and they give me some money as well.

@ComfortablyNumb95 This is the first place in which I'll announce when I publish my book.Don't worry about that :)
 
@RhythmSpring Why are you happy it is still open. All we really have here is a person being bashed while creating a live trip report. I fail to see the HR qualities of this thread. Could you explain it to me?
 
This thread is ridiculous, OP, seek professional help. This isnt your diary. How this isnt closed is beyond me.
 
@Beavesmx44

Well,this thread is one of the single sources of ''entertainment'' in the PD.
Do you have something against that?
 
Not at all. I find the majority of your post entertaining/funny but a string of them could cause others with little to no experience to do the same as you. Admittedly i have no experience with this substance but from an outsiders perspective your post were too coherent as others have stated. Came off as a forced kind of crazy/attention seeking behavior. If this is real then thats ok just looking out for others. Teenagers are compulsive these days and have a tendancy to look for self confirming facts on the interwebs. 400 seeds is not normal and this paints the picture that its almost cool to do this in some way. Remember not just level headed adults read this. Best of luck in your journey.
 
Yeah this is one of those things that is like become the equivalent of beating a horse to death with a boat paddle.
it takes a long time, you're going to get hurt we're going to get blamed for his death or something like that because no one bothered to call 911, due to the extreme psychosis of this guy because we don't know him in real life.
Yet this constantly was on bluelight.

So bring down the Ban Hammer, he doesn't seem worth while outside of us being his one outlet for the insanity
and we can free him the whimsical ways of the universe. Where no blame will be attached where it seems like within every reply we are egging him on to mutilate his genitals with an egg beater or something silly.
 
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