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Returning to Heroin after a long absence

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ClarenceWorley81

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I was a pretty heavy heroin user in my 20's, I'm from the 80's generation. And I'm not talking about the decade. I started with tar in Los Angeles and then lived in Philadelphia from about 2006-2012 getting bundles from K & A and Camden, sometimes Baltimore or Wilmington. Got sober in 2012, last time I used heroin was January of 2012, I feel like a lot has changed in that time. I haven't been completely sober since 2021. Not a big drinker, pot here and there and for the past few years I've been using kratom, 7-oh now mitragine or whatever is legal where I live in Florida. The past year i have gotten an itch for using heroin again. This isn't a, talk me out of it or go back to meetings thing so please none of that. I feel like alot has changed in 15 years. Idk if its even possible to find actual real heroin anymore. I don't want fentanyl but I feel like thats all there is anymore. And i don't mean like the finding a dealer thing I mean is actual, none fentanyl heroin a thing anymore? Is it safer to try and find tar? I know 15-20 years ago tar was more of a west coast, southwest thing and the north east was all powder & bundles and I remember getting caps in Baltimore I think. Anyways I'd love some advise. I live in the Treasure Coast area of Florida, Martin County, about 30-45 mins N or West Palm. Am I just barking up a fentanyl tree? Are people actually doing actual heroin anymore. I'm not a 23 year old kid anymore who will snort or blast whatever I come across. I'm a 45 year old man with a good job and I good life. I'm not rich by any means but im also not taking a bus to K & A, or walking around on Somerset in 20 degrees looking for a few bags. And most importantly I am not trying to kill myself with fentanyl pretending its heroin. Appreciate any feedback....if im being an idiot feel free to let me know. Thanks
 
ClarenceWorley81 said:
I was a pretty heavy heroin user in my 20's, I'm from the 80's generation. And I'm not talking about the decade. I started with tar in Los Angeles and then lived in Philadelphia from about 2006-2012 getting bundles from K & A and Camden, sometimes Baltimore or Wilmington. Got sober in 2012, last time I used heroin was January of 2012, I feel like a lot has changed in that time. I haven't been completely sober since 2021. Not a big drinker, pot here and there and for the past few years I've been using kratom, 7-oh now mitragine or whatever is legal where I live in Florida. The past year i have gotten an itch for using heroin again. This isn't a, talk me out of it or go back to meetings thing so please none of that. I feel like alot has changed in 15 years. Idk if its even possible to find actual real heroin anymore. I don't want fentanyl but I feel like thats all there is anymore. And i don't mean like the finding a dealer thing I mean is actual, none fentanyl heroin a thing anymore? Is it safer to try and find tar? I know 15-20 years ago tar was more of a west coast, southwest thing and the north east was all powder & bundles and I remember getting caps in Baltimore I think. Anyways I'd love some advise. I live in the Treasure Coast area of Florida, Martin County, about 30-45 mins N or West Palm. Am I just barking up a fentanyl tree? Are people actually doing actual heroin anymore. I'm not a 23 year old kid anymore who will snort or blast whatever I come across. I'm a 45 year old man with a good job and I good life. I'm not rich by any means but im also not taking a bus to K & A, or walking around on Somerset in 20 degrees looking for a few bags. And most importantly I am not trying to kill myself with fentanyl pretending its heroin. Appreciate any feedback....if im being an idiot feel free to let me know. Thanks
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I've never used tar or actually ever even seen it in real life but I can tell u the whole scene where I used "shop" is all fetty from what I've been told. It's a shame because the west side was always bumpin from when I was using 90's til about 2010 which I haven't been there since. It's a shame cuz the dope I used to get, depending on the corner, was usually excellent I mean people used to come from states over to get it now even the dboyz who run the corners are just shitty people to deal with Surprisingly they used to care about u because u were their bank account so they looked out. You know b4 they didn't want u to die because u were their money but now I think they don't care even care if u die because shit is so addictive and such a known area if u die there will be somebody in ur shoes picking up where u left. You to go shopping what I called it and after I'd get from my guys I'd drive around random spots and get 1 bag to test sh out now I'd say do the same, find a good spot and get as much as u can while supplies, that's what I'd do if I was gonna relapse but for now I'm on this 7oh trip which looks like that'll be ending soon.
 
I do not live in North America but I do know that the likelihood you will be able to cop heroin in person is functionally zero.

For intents and purposes fentanyl analogues and benzimidazole opioids have entirely supplanted heroin.
 
I watch a lot of body youtube footage while at work. Anyways I frequently watch and people are arrested with heroin and cocaine or heroin and fentanyl....its almost as if heroin isnt heroin anymore, its a street name for fentanyl or some combo of fentanyl and a tranquilizer. Its weird
 
Curious, why are itching to go back on H? I steered clear of opiods out of fear of addiction, I didn’t feel i needed to be tied down that way. I don’t get it, maybe if i had experience i would understand?
BTW welcome to BL
 
I am not from the USA, but the reality of any substance, particularly CNS depressants, is that if they are illicit they will contain fentanyl/nitazenes/whatever horrible ultra strength synthetic opiod they're pumping out now. It's just not profitable to have actual poppy plantations for the distributors if they can just get the chems from china. I've also seen a heroin user describe synthetic opioids as something very disappointing and lacking euphoria compared to actual heroin. If you can spare the time I would urge you to get testing kits, although they may not detect everything.
 
It's still around but you gotta pay up for it and know the right people. Obviously it's not common any longer but it's still around, especially in the midwest
 
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M!$TER-ED said:
You know Mr @Zopiclone bandit this is a free forum where people learn about things they can't otherwise find out about. I think you are a rude person and I don't care for your insults so back off
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Insult? No
Basic Logic & Truth? Yes

You said by your own words that you have NO experience with Heroin so why comment? You see mee in a thread of DIPT? No & that is because I have never taken it & have no experience with it.

You have such an Ego on you which is why you think it's an insult, you aren't used to be told in a blunt way & that's the way I am so you will have to accept it.

I've honestly never seen a post by you that has any value, how you are a mod on here is beyond me.
 
@Zopiclone bandit, I had a chance to cool down... I was wrong saying that about you; please accept my apology. You are right about my lack of experience with H; however, my statement was not meant to sound smug. It was an honest attempt to ascertain why I did not try it.
You've given me something to think about, and I appreciate your honesty. I am far from perfection
 
ClarenceWorley81 said:
I was a pretty heavy heroin user in my 20's, I'm from the 80's generation. And I'm not talking about the decade. I started with tar in Los Angeles and then lived in Philadelphia from about 2006-2012 getting bundles from K & A and Camden, sometimes Baltimore or Wilmington. Got sober in 2012, last time I used heroin was January of 2012, I feel like a lot has changed in that time. I haven't been completely sober since 2021. Not a big drinker, pot here and there and for the past few years I've been using kratom, 7-oh now mitragine or whatever is legal where I live in Florida. The past year i have gotten an itch for using heroin again. This isn't a, talk me out of it or go back to meetings thing so please none of that. I feel like alot has changed in 15 years. Idk if its even possible to find actual real heroin anymore. I don't want fentanyl but I feel like thats all there is anymore. And i don't mean like the finding a dealer thing I mean is actual, none fentanyl heroin a thing anymore? Is it safer to try and find tar? I know 15-20 years ago tar was more of a west coast, southwest thing and the north east was all powder & bundles and I remember getting caps in Baltimore I think. Anyways I'd love some advise. I live in the Treasure Coast area of Florida, Martin County, about 30-45 mins N or West Palm. Am I just barking up a fentanyl tree? Are people actually doing actual heroin anymore. I'm not a 23 year old kid anymore who will snort or blast whatever I come across. I'm a 45 year old man with a good job and I good life. I'm not rich by any means but im also not taking a bus to K & A, or walking around on Somerset in 20 degrees looking for a few bags. And most importantly I am not trying to kill myself with fentanyl pretending its heroin. Appreciate any feedback....if im being an idiot feel free to let me know. Thanks
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A lot has changed. Heroin is pretty scarce and niche these days. I don’t buy drugs IRL, but I did have experience with a single gram of tar in the past. I probably only used around 200mg of it before throwing the rest out, and even online, it was hard to come by. I remember there being maybe two American vendors selling it. The rest claimed to have “FF,” but judging from the reviews, a lot of them seemed full of shit.

Anyway, too much has changed. Fentanyl and the newer, ultra-potent synthetic opioids have basically destroyed the market you remember. I doubt you’d be able to find what you’re looking for with any consistency. And even if you did, there’s no guarantee the next batch wouldn’t contain something unexpected, even if the person selling it didn’t intentionally put it there.

And definitely don’t assume that tar can’t be cut with fentanyl.

So yeah, I think you answered your own question to some extent. What you remember from 15 to 20 years ago is largely a thing of the past here in America.

May heroin rest in peace.
 
I’m currently stuck on 7oh. Good job. Good life. Man. I wouldn’t fuck with this shit. I would just take what you have earned from being away from heroin so long and stick with it. Even just this 7oh shit is insane. Drug addiction sucks dude. There’s nothing romantic about shitting your pants. Pretty much the only way you’re going to get a solid h connect is trough the dark web. Other than that a chance and very lucky encounter with someone on the street who trusts you enough to divulge that they sell black. Other than that you’re just not going to get it. Or you’ll get hooked up with someone who presents as her but is really just fent. I mean. It’s not a winners circle anymore. With fent everybody loses.
 
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