Results of heroin experiment

[Aurelia]

Greetings to all of you that have been helping me learn how to smoke heroin.

For those of you that don't know about this, I have a thread in New Members entitled 58 and trying heroin for the first time. It would be good to read that first so you can see how I arrived at heroin as a possible solution to my problem.

Right now, after smoking three quarters of a gram of black tar, which tastes about like tar, I have a raging case of laryngitis. My thumb is worn out and burned from the lighter, and I feel like I smoked a joint of really sleepy pot. Thank heaven heroin doesn't give you the munchies. Besides that, and not being able to talk, I feel no different than having smoked a joint.

I came to Bluelight to find out how to go about doing this, since I'm basically straight and didn't really know what to expect. The response was wonderful! Everybody was so helpful and concerned that I do it carefully. I want to thank all of you for that now. What a great site this is!

So anyway, I got good at Chasing the Dragon with an oversized drinking straw. My husband and I were doing this together. The blind leading the blind. And other than melting and catching the end of the straw on fire a few times, it is an effective way to grab that vapor. One thing I read said to use a toilet paper tube so you don't miss any smoke. That worked ok, but we couldn't see what we were doing. I did not, fortunately, catch the toilet paper tube on fire.

I wanted to experience that feeling everybody raves about; the euphoria, the warm, floating bliss; all of those things people say it gives you. And above all, the lack of all the pain I'm constantly in. What actually ended up happening, is that I got very sleepy, my throat is sore and I SURE didn't feel euphoric, and I gave up and said to hell with it. I still have another gram left; don't know what I'll do with it, but right now I'm going to die if I don't take a nap.

So if you think heroin might work for pain, forget it. Plus Medicare and Blue Cross don't pay for it.

Thanks for listening.

 

[Smoky]

Thank you for the update. I was wondering how you were doing with this experience.

Smoky

 

[Mysterie]

yes... pain medication is a better treatment for pain than heroin.

 

[Aurelia]

Hi Smoky

i can't believe how absolutely dull it was. I was hoping for at least that feeling you get when you first take a Tylenol 3, but nothing happened. I've got so much oxy in my system, it has my tolerance above even heroin! But for about an hour, I was completely out of pain.

Thanks for writing. How are you doing?

 

[The Doc.]

Well heroin actually is a very effective pain killer if I'm in serious serious pain then heroin would always be my first choice either that or oxycodone. You got bunk heroin and at the price you told me you get it for its no surprise. The first time I tried heroin I puked but felt so good still, I had the heroin munchies/craving for sweets,I basically felt nothing and you know what it felt great to have no pain mental or physical even if just for a few hours. I'm glad you don't want to do heroin again because its too addictive and robs you of your soul but heroin doesn't in fact do that to your throat and it gets you feeling a whole lot better then you felt when you did yours. Its probably cut real bad with god knows what its probably coke syrup if you have tar. Stick to pharma they are more reliable for pain relief. That's the name of the heroin game sometimes you score good stuff and others you get bunk heroin you just never know what your getting from that sketchy guy down the block.

Its a good thing though let's you see the shitty side of the heroin lifestyle right away before going to far into it. If you tried smoking or snorting the China white we get down in Vancouver Canada then you would have been hooked for life most likely. We get really potent heroin down here but for more than 3 times the price what you pay down there.

 

[Aurelia]

Thank you 10102 for your compassionate, understanding reply.

Someone on one of my other threads thought I needed to be flamed for stupidity. I've never done heroin and didn't know what to expect. Hence asking Bluelight. You were a big help.

Thanks again.

 

[The Doc.]

Thank you 10102 for your compassionate, understanding reply.

Someone on one of my other threads thought I needed to be flamed for stupidity. I've never done heroin and didn't know what to expect. Hence asking Bluelight. You were a big help.

Thanks again.

Oh really well some people like to come online to play the internet tough guy part so don't worry about them we got no time for people like that. Its important to do your drugs with the least harm possible. I'm glad you found Bluelight

 

[Smoky]

Hi Smoky

i can't believe how absolutely dull it was. I was hoping for at least that feeling you get when you first take a Tylenol 3, but nothing happened. I've got so much oxy in my system, it has my tolerance above even heroin! But for about an hour, I was completely out of pain.

Thanks for writing. How are you doing?


Hi Aurelia,

Perhaps your experience with heroin was for the best. It was either not a very good batch or didn't take to the opiate receptors well, if you had other similar pain killers in your system. I remember doing heroin on top of roxies and I just became very agitated. Pills used to effect me differently and were not as calming - although for pain, any opiate will cause more pain in the long run … at least ime.

Heroin is very short acting and not manageable for pain. I was able to control my use for sometime with pills, but when I made the switch to Heroin that stopped. It's very difficult and often one needs it in the morning 'and' evening and sometimes in the day.

Subs would have been better for me looking back, although those are hard to withdraw from too…
I want to add it worked very well in the moment immediately for pain, but long term my pain became immense, waking up with shooting pain down my arm … and more numbness… It increase my pain over the year…

 

[Aurelia]

Smoky-

Yes, I must've had low grade heroin. I've got an acquaintance that takes more oxy than I do and just loves to smoke that stuff. So it works for some people. And today I feel bad. Well, I always feel bad when I get up, but it was worse today. One thing I know for a fact for my system anyway, is that dextroamphetamine and oxy make me hurt the next day. From all my muscles being strung so tight for so long. Mentally it's a good mix, but I'm already high strung, so I end up sore throughout my whole body. Then I take muscle relaxers and those work, but if I have to go somewhere the next day, I'm a zombie. It would make sense to not have to take one to counteract the other, just don't take either, but when you are my age with a bunch of problems, it becomes necessary. I don't take any pills for fun. They stopped being fun a month after I started them.

So now I can go back to my painful grind.

What was your pain from? Did you say? Are you still hurting?

I can't send you a pm because I'm still a greenlighter. Maybe we have to talk in another category? Or what?

Thanks is for backing me up. Captain did too. You're both really nice people. Rhun is too.

 

[The Doc.]

Hi Smoky

i can't believe how absolutely dull it was. I was hoping for at least that feeling you get when you first take a Tylenol 3, but nothing happened. I've got so much oxy in my system, it has my tolerance above even heroin! But for about an hour, I was completely out of pain.

Thanks for writing. How are you doing?


Hi Aurelia,

Perhaps your experience with heroin was for the best. It was either not a very good batch or didn't take to the opiate receptors well, if you had other similar pain killers in your system. I remember doing heroin on top of roxies and I just became very agitated. Pills used to effect me differently and were not as calming - although for pain, any opiate will cause more pain in the long run … at least ime.

Heroin is very short acting and not manageable for pain. I was able to control my use for sometime with pills, but when I made the switch to Heroin that stopped. It's very difficult and often one needs it in the morning 'and' evening and sometimes in the day.

Subs would have been better for me looking back, although those are hard to withdraw from too…
I want to add it worked very well in the moment immediately for pain, but long term my pain became immense, waking up with shooting pain down my arm … and more numbness… It increase my pain over the year…

When I was on heroin I had to do it every 2 hours or I got sick as hell. I couldn't sleep more than 3 hours without my body waking up drenched in a pool of sweat needing more heroin to fall asleep again. What a shitty life if I woke up and didn't have any I would lay there all night crying and thrashing my legs about like a madmen while in a pool of sweat constantly.

 

[Aurelia]

Oh, that sounds so horrid. I'm so glad you're off now. Did you ever read Jerry Stahl's book Permanent Midnight? He's a fabulous writer. If you read it, you could gloat that you're not there any more. It's a really good read.

The oxy makes me sweat like crazy too, with terrible hot flashes.

I can't pm you because I'm a greenlighter. That's what the Friend thing is, right? I don't understand that. I've had several nice people want to be friends, but don't know what to do about it. Explain? You've been a big, friendly help through my little experiment. And little it was. Still have the other gram. Maybe I can get a refund. Still have a burned throat too. You live and you learn. And you get what you pay for.

 

[Smoky]

When I was on heroin I had to do it every 2 hours or I got sick as hell. I couldn't sleep more than 3 hours without my body waking up drenched in a pool of sweat needing more heroin to fall asleep again. What a shitty life if I woke up and didn't have any I would lay there all night crying and thrashing my legs about like a madmen while in a pool of sweat constantly.

Wow! Every 2 hours? I would use through the day, then at night… just 2 hours before sleep the most quantity. I had to time it all. Not being able to sleep nor get out of bed without it. What a fn hassle it was -- my sweats started in middle of night too, but usually 4 hours later, 5. I kept waking up earlier and earlier and earlier though… Eventually I did need it about 4 am, to go back to sleep 2 hours, then to use again in the morning.. What a horrible existence it all was, ad nauseam. Full time job but I was not getting paid, but paying and robbed of my own seeming sanity.

 

[Smoky]

Smoky-

Yes, I must've had low grade heroin. I've got an acquaintance that takes more oxy than I do and just loves to smoke that stuff. So it works for some people. And today I feel bad. Well, I always feel bad when I get up, but it was worse today. One thing I know for a fact for my system anyway, is that dextroamphetamine and oxy make me hurt the next day. From all my muscles being strung so tight for so long. Mentally it's a good mix, but I'm already high strung, so I end up sore throughout my whole body. Then I take muscle relaxers and those work, but if I have to go somewhere the next day, I'm a zombie. It would make sense to not have to take one to counteract the other, just don't take either, but when you are my age with a bunch of problems, it becomes necessary. I don't take any pills for fun. They stopped being fun a month after I started them.

So now I can go back to my painful grind.

What was your pain from? Did you say? Are you still hurting?

I can't send you a pm because I'm still a greenlighter. Maybe we have to talk in another category? Or what?

Thanks is for backing me up. Captain did too. You're both really nice people. Rhun is too.

Thank you Aurelia,
Yes, I hear you - heroin stopped being fun for me after about 3 weeks, then I kept upping it to work and using to maintain… maintenance using, And to keep the pain down from the rebound pain of using.
Pills would seem better way to go, and are statistically. I do know pills made me more agitated and didn't sleep as well, but the dangers with Heroin just aren't worth it, for me… and hard to keep track of mgs. Life and death really, but that's just me.
I took muscle relaxers for a long time, they helped my referred pain, and I didn't have w/drawals from them, but they gave me vertigo.

I have a little scoliosis in my c spine, slightly w/ degeneration, stenosis … that has crept up into my ear and jaw on my left side of head. I had acupuncture today… I see a cmt soon, and just got approved for insurance again.. Did a pain management program… hope to see a surgeon or at least get some injections in my neck.

No worries on hurries… I have problems with my inboxes also (?). Take care tonight, or when you get this….

 

[realtalkloc]

If you tried smoking or snorting the China white we get down in Vancouver Canada then you would have been hooked for life most likely.

ok calm down, lets not exaggerate.

 

[pirates_]

Lol you don't use heroin heroin uses you! It's a virus from Satan himself n if u don't catch it your lucky n if u do your going to live the rest of your years in a what seems like a murky fish tank with plastic decorations. N then u will bring down or push away all those close to u. I just kicked methadone n I am in day shit. Idk 50 of being opiate free..it's no ducking fun I wished for death I was bed ridden starving but no appetite n today I still have reduced energy n stamina along with insomnia n restless both operating separately of each other. Heroin doesn't care how old r young u r. It will stain your soul. I started snorting herointthAt led to shooting and as I happy as I looked like in public I was the same as my fellow users in a alley..stabbing my self with anold needle hands bloody almost in tears no in tears cuz I couldn't hit the vein..today I still crave n I know I'll never escape it.. what substance in the world does that..what leaves it body after weeks months or yeArs but still has a deep hook into u..Heroin does. Sorry if I'm comin on rude or aggressive but during my time as a user I brought ppl to the dark side to support my h abit. This is me trying to make up for it

 

[Colonel Contin]

Smoking 3/4 of a gram should do something even if you have an opioid tolerance and the tar is on the low-grade side (although I do typically get a sore throat long before I get high when smoking (never my preferred method)). I wonder if your heroin wasn't mostly something else.

 

[The Doc.]

Oh, that sounds so horrid. I'm so glad you're off now. Did you ever read Jerry Stahl's book Permanent Midnight? He's a fabulous writer. If you read it, you could gloat that you're not there any more. It's a really good read.

The oxy makes me sweat like crazy too, with terrible hot flashes.

I can't pm you because I'm a greenlighter. That's what the Friend thing is, right? I don't understand that. I've had several nice people want to be friends, but don't know what to do about it. Explain? You've been a big, friendly help through my little experiment. And little it was. Still have the other gram. Maybe I can get a refund. Still have a burned throat too. You live and you learn. And you get what you pay for.

I'll have to look into that book I haven't read it nor have I heard of it. I got your PM I'll send you a message on lunch break I'm busy busy as usual. If I don't reply right away don't take offence I'm just busy with school and work.

 

[The Doc.]

ok calm down, lets not exaggerate.

Calm down??? Ha how was that whole post not calm? I said its very likely you would have been hooked for life if you got real heroin because its true. Let me guess your one of the people who don't belive heroin can get someone addicted the first try? Why not add something useful to the thread.

 

[Smoky]

Lol you don't use heroin heroin uses you! It's a virus from Satan himself n if u don't catch it your lucky n if u do your going to live the rest of your years in a what seems like a murky fish tank with plastic decorations. N then u will bring down or push away all those close to u. I just kicked methadone n I am in day shit. Idk 50 of being opiate free..it's no ducking fun I wished for death I was bed ridden starving but no appetite n today I still have reduced energy n stamina along with insomnia n restless both operating separately of each other. Heroin doesn't care how old r young u r. It will stain your soul. I started snorting herointthAt led to shooting and as I happy as I looked like in public I was the same as my fellow users in a alley..stabbing my self with anold needle hands bloody almost in tears no in tears cuz I couldn't hit the vein..today I still crave n I know I'll never escape it.. what substance in the world does that..what leaves it body after weeks months or yeArs but still has a deep hook into u..Heroin does. Sorry if I'm comin on rude or aggressive but during my time as a user I brought ppl to the dark side to support my h abit. This is me trying to make up for it

That was me with crack in the alleys for years, then heroin almost same thing.. Much truth, not aggressive at all.. It took my soul… Sometimes I wonder if I'll ever feel the same. Congrats on kicking methadone…

 

[Aurelia]

Hi Pirate-

No, man. You aren't the least bit rude. I like it that you care enough to write. It's really a good thing you're doing.

I still have the other gram and am going to see if my buddy will give me a refund. I certainly gave no use for it. My voice is still messed up but getting better. Burned the hell out of it. In all the years I smoked bad pot and good hash, I never had that happen to my voice. Very strange. Also I was basically yelling at my husband through it all because he's nearly deaf. We had fun because we always have fun, but the heroin simply did nothing.

Thanks for writing, Pirate. Write anytime.