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ddeakle

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hi this is my first post, ive used bluelight many times before for various questions and im not quite sure how to word my question but here is my best shot :). my friend has been using spice for a while now (not because he is inexperienced he has tripped off of dmt dxm mxe acid mushrooms and smoked massive ammounts of weed and done many other drugs...) because he has been broke and its cheaper than weed and makes him trip. here lateley he has noticed when ever he smokes enough to trip (which is one rip from his 3 footer usually) he always experiances the exact same thing on the come up... shortly after hitting the bong my friend then starts to feel slightly nausea which he knows is a side-effect of spice, but then the trip starts it feels as if 2 magnets are in his head very powerful electric magnets and all of a sudden they disconect and then the only way he can describe the experience is that he feels as if his body on the inside is being pulled away like layer by layer, now usually he can handle it and it then progresses to closed eye hallucinations which usually arent the same but all have the same basic principal, he is another person yet still himself in another what seems like reallity, and hes on somekind of exploration and just as he is about to figure out the answer to what hes searcing for a bat like creature swoops down pulls off his head and replaces it with a new one and he instantly forgets the majority of the trip except for the very intense parts. he can still see it play over in his mmind but he is unable to put it into words. he has done the spice wiith other people as well and they all report with the same experiance is repeated multiple times. if anyone coud help my friends and i it would be very helpful. thannk you

the main type of spice he uses is black magic and sometimes scooby snax if it matters
 
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yes my friend is me i was unsure if you could say it here or not without getting kicked out but also my actuall friend experiences the exact same trip is there an explanation for this?
and as to why i can handle it perfectly and he on the other hand cant he freaks out every time
 
Is there an explanation for these effects?
Its hard to know what kind of answer you are looking for, but my understanding of a lot of the synthetic cannabinoids going around is that they have dissociative effects as well as those similar to cannabis.
Sounds like a (freaky) dissociative effect to me...
 
i have done keteminne and mxe ive been in k holes for 4hr straight its nothing dissociative like at alll lol beacuse theres about 4 dif types of trips and are increadibly hard to explain and my question is really how come the trip can be the same exacct trip multiple times by multiple people
 
when did you purchase this smoke blend? the majority of synthetic cannabinoids have been banned at the federal level for a while now. who knows what weird chems are in that stuff.
 
webbykevin said:
How can it be cheaper than a weed that grows for free ?
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It's not too crazy that this sort of thing would happen, specific drug experiences are often common between people, or in one person across different times. Well, besides the bat part, that's a bit weird.

spacejunk said:
Its hard to know what kind of answer you are looking for, but my understanding of a lot of the synthetic cannabinoids going around is that they have dissociative effects as well as those similar to cannabis
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As someone who rarely smokes cannabis, I can say it also has profound dissociative effects when I do smoke up. If you perceive it doesn't I'd figure it's a tolerance/intensity thing.

ddeakle said:
i have done keteminne and mxe ive been in k holes for 4hr straight its nothing dissociative like at alll
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When they said dissociative, they didn't necessarily mean that it was similar to an NMDA antagonist, but they were using it as an adjective.
 
considering those blends can have anything in them and usually are a mixture of things much like "bathsalts"
i wouldn't be surprised if there was salvia extract, just because of the "same trip" component
 
bro you live near KCK, KCMO?? i got a light red ziplock baggy with a computer printed label saying 'Black Magic' that made me start to go into some pretty crazy trips but i never went balls to the wall cuz usually i get a bit of a headache and trip hard that i've just ruptured an aneurysm. my experience though is that usually when you have trips that intense and feel something in your head funny it's not a good sign, especially with all these dangerous legal highs. my friend said she bought a bag of some stuff called scooby snax the same place too.
 
well thank you everyone for the posts but i dont even know anymore because it seems this gives me crazy diff exp lately sometimes ill melt every time for a lil while then ill just get sleepy n shit gets wonky its so strange its as if it picks how it wants u to trip and regardless of set or setting it dosent want to change ive tried going for rides ive tried going to other ppls houses ive tried it sad happy and mad i just dont know i guess its just one f those unexplainanble things we deal with when reaching for new tripps but i enjoy it most of the tinme and it is much cheaper than weed <snip>*. and it gets me a dif more fun experiance then cannabis and to those who were tlking about it being dissasociative i apologize if i seemed snappy i just meant i didnt feel disc. from myself when i use it. thx again

No price talk. And please type coherent sentences with complete words, if you're using a phone go for saying less clearly rather than saying more in such a messy way.

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naw im from ct idk where tht is lol but no u get black magic i get black magic smoke... 2 dif brands mine comes in a lil plastic jar... and for the reccord scooby snax that dont have a hologram on the bag are fakess in case u get more or ur friend... but i gues i should stick with the pure lsd i just got :)) and the mxe im getting :D
 
i cant even tell if this is cannabinoid discussion... what's the question here...? Do other people get fucked up from odd RC blends?
 
I experienced a horrible trip on happy shaman, like k2, it is a herbal incense. It was strawberry fragranced. I took two hits from a small bong, and it immediately went straight to my head. At first, I had the usual side effects. Laughter, delayed eye movements. We sat around for around ten minutes just talking, and decided to get up and go in to a different room. My friends started walking away first. As I got up, my vision got extremely blurry to a point were I couldn't tell what, was what. Soon after this I started having hallucinations of black birds flying all around. At this point, I did not realize I was going in to a bad trip. Soon after this I had a crazy out of body experience. It felt as if I was watching a full view of myself, from someone else's eyes. As I watched myself, I saw my muscles all seizing and doing the weirdest things. As if I was twitching all over. In reality, my body really was doing this, because I could feel it, although I felt as I was still in someone else's body. Soon, I 'returned' to my own body. I went into a seizure and became unconscious. I fell forward and hit my face directly on to a table, and fell to the floor. This is when my friends noticed something was wrong with me, because they heard me crashing. One friend picked my up instantly. I was in a different world though. After this, I did not know what happened. My friends said I looked as if I had been possessed. That my eyes had a straight gaze, and I could only look forward. They also said I put my arms straight out and they couldn't be pushed down. I came back in to consciousness now, and felt as if I was having a heart attack. I remember telling them my heart was in so much pain. We went to the emergency room, where my friends walked me in. My vision was still extremely blurry. I sat in the bed where the nurses checked my heart rate, blood pressure, and took urine, and blood samples. The doctor returned and said he could not figure out what the problem was. That nothing had came up. This is probably because shaman does not come up on blood tests. I was released. I went home and sat on the couch for hours. Eventually my vision became better and I returned to normal. However, days after my vision will still go blurry at times, and my heart still hurts. My muscles are very sore from contracting them with such force. I will never smoke herbal incense again, and I would not recommend it to anybody.
 
wow tht is crazy ive never had obe from spice but on acid and such i have had a few idk its weird its ike the trips all match up on the black magic ike they're in sequence its verry difficult to explain but i still enjoy it for the most part and ive vowed many times to stop after bad trips but always find myself trying it just one mmore time i guess because its like nothing ive ever experianced befor and i kind of enjoy being scared from it lol
 
from everything ive read, synthetic cannabinoid blends are some wacky shit. ive heard countless stories of people who smoke spice for a while, then when they go back to weed the experience is ruined. all in all, doing any of these unstudied and little known synths is risky at best... IMO just stay away and stick to drugs whose effects are well known. if you disagree, fine with me, someones gotta test the thousands of RC's out there.
 
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