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Repairing the brain/body after opiate and mdma abuse

wingnutlives

wingnutlives

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Ok i'm not sure I found what I was looking for in the search engine. I'm not looking for supplements too much, because I already take a lot of them and they dont' help at all. I did a lot of E/mdma for a few years (about once a month at least until I quit a year ago) and then a few months recently of almost-daily opiate use (mostly stuff like hydro and tramadol, but also some dilaudid and oxy and heroin).

I feel like I damaged my brain a huge amount, although the amount I did was moderate compared to some of the people on here. Maybe this is just the usual depression/anxiety that I have to go through, but I'd just like some advice on what others have done to repair damage to endorphin and serotonin receptors. Foods to eat, herbs I might not have heard of, things to do...? I take zoloft and supplements like st. john's wort and D-phenylalanine - they aren't helping at all anymore.
 
^ I second the OP. Not only is exercise an antidepressant in its own right, but the endorphins it helps release fit snugly into opiate receptors, so it will (hopefully) act against the specific cause of depression.
 
Sorry about feeling down.

Everything with drugs is very subjective, so you may or may not fall under the sphere of my generalizations.

While the MDMA use surely threw your brain chemistry off balance for a little, there is great chance that monthly use will not cause permanent depression. Many people with much more dangerous dosages for MDA/MDMA have successfully recovered from three year + clinical depression.

Opiates are not neurotoxic, at all. Tramadol lowers your seizure threshold or something similar, so combining Tramadol and cocaine is not a great idea. Heroin, Oxycodone, Hyrdocodone are all okay for your body as long as you do not ingest too much. Too many 5/500 Perc's or Vicodin's or Darvocet's will be seriously toxic to your liver because of the large amounts of APAP. Otherwise, your good.
 
Splatter said:
^ I second the OP. Not only is exercise an antidepressant in its own right, but the endorphins it helps release fit snugly into opiate receptors, so it will (hopefully) act against the specific cause of depression.
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Technically wouldn't beating your meat help too then since it releases endorphins?
 
wakinglyfe said:
Technically wouldn't beating your meat help too then since it releases endorphins?
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Beating your meat is excellent but you do get post-wank crash which can be bad for those susceptible to it.

If you can accept the sadness that comes when you realise Kate Bush will never blow you after all, then I would reccomend it.
 
wingnutlives said:
I feel like I damaged my brain a huge amount
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I think you've hit the nail on the head here. I doubt whether the E or the opiates have had any effect on your brain whatsoever but because you believe they have you will feel the effects.

A few years ago there was a big media scare that living under electricity cables caused brain damage In one village dozens of people living under electricity cables complained of brain damage, severe headaches, depression etc. The outbreak was investigated and it turned out the cables hadn't been turned on for years. The people had simply made themselves ill by thinking about it.
 
Yea i feel the same as OP. I took X for prolly 4 years. Quite heavy at times. It certainly showed me new highs but it also showed me new lows. Now i feel like the lows have stuck around. I havent touched any X in over 3 years prolly.

I never touched anything harder really, maybe a small amount of pain meds and some weed. Hopefully i will feel better sometime. You too i hope. but me first =D

Ismene said:
Beating your meat is excellent but you do get post-wank crash which can be bad for those susceptible to it.
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lawl TOTALLY, abstinence until a second party has the right gear to get you off
 
Ismene said:
Beating your meat is excellent but you do get post-wank crash which can be bad for those susceptible to it.
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lmfao...I thought I was the only one that experienced this. I'll get the urge and then convince myself not to cause I'm afraid I'll feel shitty afterwards. Much like convincing myself not to do any blow, 'cept not quite that bad lol.
 
I dont think once a month rolls would do anything. Try once a week for 9 weeks in a row, then you'll know somethings fucked up!

I had some hardcore short-term memory, couldnt remember names of people ive known most of my life, could barely hold a decent conversation as I would forget what ive said minutes earlier.

It was pretty bad, now ive slowed down to at least once a month with daily pot use (about to quit) and occasional drinking.
 
I cant remember exactly why but i think the science says 3 months to be completely back to normal.
 
Boiling in Acid said:
can you combine ssris with st. johns wort?
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No. It is an unsafe combination. Be careful with St. John's Wort--it doesn't mix well with many things. (there have been studies about it...)

I think that St. John's Wort may be a minor MAOI. Either that or it is some kind of seritonin reuptake inhibitor. Either way... it is probably better to stick with the doctor perscribed antideressants, as then you actually know what you are getting. They also tend to be more effective, and have been studied more extensively.

Be safe.
 
Ismene said:
I think you've hit the nail on the head here. I doubt whether the E or the opiates have had any effect on your brain whatsoever but because you believe they have you will feel the effects.

A few years ago there was a big media scare that living under electricity cables caused brain damage In one village dozens of people living under electricity cables complained of brain damage, severe headaches, depression etc. The outbreak was investigated and it turned out the cables hadn't been turned on for years. The people had simply made themselves ill by thinking about it.
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I agree quite highly with this, i do abuse mdma beyond crazy amounts and i simply tell myself i'm fine and i don't have any kind of depression or anything i'm always a happy person.

And i mean SERIOUS abuse aha.
 
+1 for Exercise and Meditation.

Many fruits&vegetables maybe ... :] And nootrops, Piracetam/Aniracetam, if you would like to feel better concentration,memory,cognitive functions etc

Integrate your own philosophy in life & re-create your own cosmotheory ;]

I agree quite highly with this, i do abuse mdma beyond crazy amounts and i simply tell myself i'm fine and i don't have any kind of depression or anything i'm always a happy person.

And i mean SERIOUS abuse aha.
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Sure I believe with your thoughts you can skip depression or anything because thought creates subjective reality, but TO AN EXTENT .. :]
 
Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. I think I might check out the nootropics soon. I haven't seen them in stores so I'll probably have to order online. Although... I feel like my intellectual ability is fine, and even my memory isn't as bad as some people's. It's more like my emotions that are out of wack... I am extremely anxious and get panic attacks every day.
Exercise does help. Once I'm over the flu I should get back to working at the gym. I'll just try to think positive and not dwell on how much I -might- have damaged my nervous system
 
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