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Opioids relaxing on speed ball

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flyCrow

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i find that when using heroin alone i become detached and dont enjoy anything outside myself. i just want to lay there. would adding a bit of speed sort of bring everything in to light again. say if i want to watch enjoy good movie is that a state of mind where i can do that
 
I thought a speedball was coke and heroin? I've done that and it goes make you more alert after the really intense rush of it. I've never heard of anyone mixing speed with dope. You don't like nodding out? I used to pay for movies and nod out to them it was great.
 
flyCrow said:
i find that when using heroin alone i become detached and dont enjoy anything outside myself. i just want to lay there. would adding a bit of speed sort of bring everything in to light again. say if i want to watch enjoy good movie is that a state of mind where i can do that
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It seems to me like most of the time, speedballs are used for the initial "rush" the user gets upon ingesting one (the notorious way is of course via shooting up but they can be accomplished through smoking or snorting) and not so much for the lasting effects of the combination (although they may also be positive). This is especially true with cocaine since its effects are so short-lived, but with speed the results may be different. Mostly you hear of people doing a little bit of heroin after a large amount of speed to "take the edge off" or what have you, so i don't know if doing the opposite would be worthwhile since the stimulating effects of the speed may only counteract the heroin high and in the end just decrease its effects entirely without giving you 2 bangs for your buck.
What i found when doing heroin and coke at least was that i got the typical speedball rush after holding in a big hit of tar, and in the same breath, doing a couple lines, but the brief period after the initial rush (before the coke wore off completely) was just a toned down heroin high, not so much a double whammy of energetic euphoria and sedating relaxation.
 
Yea, id agree. I've done lots of coke/ heroin speedballs and its really the rush you do it for because the heroin always seems to overpower the coke in the long run since im pretty sure the half life is longer but maybe not. This is crazy to me though... You don't like nodding and chilling out? If I do a little less than I need to get high, like .1 instead of .3 or 1 8mg dilaudid instead of 16-32 mg to get high then I usually have more energy than without it.
 
oh yea i guess it is. i just thought a few things fit under speedball
i do like nodding out but when im there nothing outside the good feeling really entertains me. but my only major experience with heroin is a week long binge and it was probably just stuff that wasnt very good. felt kind of groggy and started to get bored of it. made me scattered. i dont process much and i love immersing myself in a good movie, but anxiety keeps me from doing that most of the time.
 
Sounds like shitty dope. Good luck, I get the feeling but speed balls in any form are dangerous for a reason.
 
Absolutely, I understand obviously, be careful have fun. I bet you'll get that pop of energy dope addicts get good stuff or take a little less than you need OR even better youre not addicted so you'll keep nodding. In that case, experiment and all but quit with opiates while you're ahead.
 
Sounds to me like Heroin just isn't for you, Maybe instead of finding a good substance to make the Heroin enjoyable, only do said good substance. If you don't care much for "the nod", and you're looking for more of an upbeat, energetic feeling, but you want to stick within the realm of opiates/opioids, I would suggest something derived from the thebaine alkaloid(Oxycodone), opposed to morphine alkaloid(Heroin) , In my experience Oxycodone has given me a non-drowsy, clean, energy filled feeling, where as Heroin can leave me feeling sluggish and tiresome. I'm certain the sleeping pills the salesmen are cutting it with adds to that tiresome feeling! However I'm speaking of diamorphine hcl, not blacktar, never did blacktar as I'm from east of the Mississippi, but one would think that would make you drowsy too..
 
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