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Regular Disassociative Users: Lend me your Stories :)

i use MXE aprox once a week, most of the time in fairly low doses. its been mainly positive. helped me quit using mephedrone, given me amazing positive motivated optimistic afterglows which last for awhile, overall improved my life i would say. no negatives yet, that im aware of. although the experiences are fuckin weird sometimes, i prefer the afterglow effects as aposed to the actual drug itself. ive done K a few times, much prefer k but its more easily abuseable and for me the afterglow wasn't as good. wouldn't like to use MXE every day though, think it would send me a bit mental. sometimes makes me quite confused when im on it, and its unpredictable
 
"Using MXE I have got my health and physique in great shape as I am feeling motivated to do so, and MXE does not impair my ability to exercise or go skiing or hiking or anything like that. I do not get "wobbly" from MXE probably as I have been using DXM / Ket / MXE for a long time I am adjusted to that effect."
I have to say I think some of these posts are delusional reasons to justify MXE addiction. Bluedolphin you should take your prior ketamine experience into acount. Daily dissociative use ruined your life and now you're preaching daily MXE use like a health plan. This is painfully, obviously delusional. No offense to you personally, I've spent time doing ketamine daily and methoxetamne daily before too. They both made me an egotistical detached retard. In my experience most drugs that flood your brain with dopeamine make you an egotistical asshole with frequent use..

Spacehead I don't really know what to tell you, if you aren't able to take my word for it anyway. I will tell you I'm not into addiction. And I haven't had MXE in a few weeks which isn't a problem at all. I'll probably get more soon and use it daily until I run out, then take another break. Stopping MXE even after using it for a month straight doesn't give me withdrawls or serious cravings. So I would have to consider my patterns of usage to be a choice, and not an addiction.

But honestly dude, I do take it personally if you are going to read what I wrote, flat out deny it and call me delusional. It's not right, or correct, to assume that frequent use of MXE will make anyone an egotistical detached retard. Or an egotistical asshole.

I know that's not the case because for myself and a few others in my social circle MXE is used like a social lubricant and tends to motivate people to go out and enjoy each other's company. It does not make most people egotistical, but self-affirming. There's a difference there, and the later is a healthy state of mind.

To clairify your statement: Daily Ketamine use fucked me up and now I'm stating that MXE has actually had none of the negative sides of Ketamine use. For me.

Surely, Spacehead, most of your friends who got fucked up from daily dissociative use were using Ketamine or DXM. No? I just can't imagine most people taking MXE overboard like that. MXE can be used daily in low doses.

To a tolerant user especially, MXE is nothing more than a really great sort of stimulant. There are tons of people who take 10-20mg Dexedrine a day, which in my experience would give a similar amount of stimulation (but be a little harder on the body and with a worse comedown).

And as for "preaching it like a health plan".. that's not my intent. I'm just saying I do a lot more skiing, mountain biking, hiking, etc when I have MXE because it motivates me to actually go do that. So have I gotten healthier in the last year with MXE? There's no question about that.

If MXE was in any way going to ruin my life or make it worse.. I'm pretty sure after how much I've used and for how long I'd be clued into that by now. And don't tell me "using it makes you oblivious to the damage" or something like that. That might be true for Ketamine. But MXE doesn't detach people from their bodies like that.

Fuck Ketamine in all these regards, though. And frequent use of DXM will make you retarded.

I have only noticed pro-cognitive / nootropic-like effects from MXE. With no effect at all on my memory. The proof has to be in my job performance over the last year. The quality and quantity of my output increased enough to have me commended and get a nice raise.

Not all dissociatives are created equal.
 
If MXE was in any way going to ruin my life or make it worse.. I'm pretty sure after how much I've used and for how long I'd be clued into that by now. And don't tell me "using it makes you oblivious to the damage" or something like that. That might be true for Ketamine. But MXE doesn't detach people from their bodies like that.

I disagree there, with the last part anyway. Full blown dissociation is just as possible with MXE as any other dissociative. I would agree though that the DRI action, due to making it so clearheaded, makes it a lot easier to function on it even with daily use, and I wouldn't imagine it'd interfere too much with your routines.

That said, I wouldn't advise someone to use it daily as this is likely to act as an irritant and damage the lining of the bladder and kidneys just as Ketamine does - obviously, with much smaller doses being required, this would take a long time to do any damage (unless you're using equal doses to Ketamine), but it's still a concern, as the damage can be irreversible.

I've seen MXE do some really positive things, but Ketamine in terms of the experience and after-effects was also purely positive for me, it's the bladder/kidney damage that's the main reason to avoid long term use and I suspect the same is true of MXE.
 
"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction..." Seems to be true with drugs as well as anything.
 
Yeah full blown dissociation is possible with MXE. But I don't think it's possible to get a K Hole type experience from it where you lucidly dream travel through fully visual dimensions. I've heard a few experiences like that, but I'm well tolerant to the dissociative effects. MXE isn't much more than the best kind of stimulant I've ever tried.

If I ever do have to eat my words, I'll be the first one to come on here and tell that story. Until then you find me making the most of this life :)
 
Yeah full blown dissociation is possible with MXE. But I don't think it's possible to get a K Hole type experience from it where you lucidly dream travel through fully visual dimensions. I've heard a few experiences like that, but I'm well tolerant to the dissociative effects. MXE isn't much more than the best kind of stimulant I've ever tried.

If I ever do have to eat my words, I'll be the first one to come on here and tell that story. Until then you find me making the most of this life :)

I was actually saying that based on the fact I did enter a "K hole type experience" just as you described, with MXE, the night prior to reading your post. It's definitely dose dependant though. I can't be sure of my dosage since although it was all measured up, it was several doses and I have a lot of amnesia surrounding the experience - but I'd estimate around 80mg, nearly all of which was sublingual, with I believe 10mg of it insufflated and either 10 or 15mg oral too.

That said if you keep the doses low then yes there is little more than stimulation and mood lift. :)

As for racing thoughts, I definitely experience that sometimes, but it's usually fairly calm.
 
thanks for all the good info guys :D

seems theres a bit of variation in view of supposed safeness...guess we'll have to wait til mxe's had some more experimentation time to really know for sure...til then, stay safe brothers..!!
 
^I second that, thanks!

Yeah full blown dissociation is possible with MXE. But I don't think it's possible to get a K Hole type experience from it where you lucidly dream travel through fully visual dimensions.

From what I've read it definitely possible. Beside the dosage this seems to be very dependent on the ROA used. "M-Holes" seem to happen with IM or plugging (and surely IV) more often, for obvious reasons. I've also read a post from someone who found it impossible to experience a M-Hole with intranasal or sublingual administration but was easily experiencing M-Holes with plugging 80+mg.
 
I regularly use ketamine, Once a week.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_reuptake_inhibitor

Before i ever did ketamine i was depressed, Very suicidal but mood swingy, half the day id be soo suicidal then over half id be happy,
Started doing ketamine once a week and this all dissappeared. Wow i thought,
Ran out of K/ had no source months back, Felt suicidal and mood swingy, all over again.

had 3 weeks off of ketamine due to being on antibiotics for something at the moment, But i just cant handle not doing it, same mood change and swings again,

I usually do about 300mg in one go once a week, Prefferably on the weekend.




Im not 100% in it for the K-hole, Noted effects for me AFTER using ketamine , which build slowly over days to follow even more:

- Elevated Mood
- More mood stability
- Increased Concentration
- Higher self Esteem
- More tolerance to things that annoy me/make me angry/ stress me out
- More energy and commitment to do things, For example weight lifting or taking the dog for 3 mile instead of 1 mile walks.
 
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I've also read a post from someone who found it impossible to experience a M-Hole with intranasal or sublingual administration but was easily experiencing M-Holes with plugging 80+mg.

Be sure that you can M-hole sublingually, deep, intense M-hole.
 
I did a shitload of tussin back when I was 18 or 19. I lived in OK so it was all that was really around. Even now, years later, the stuff doesn't get me off anymore. A permanent tolerance if you will...although I've heard similar things about K. I used to chug 2 bottles and lay back & listen to enigma with my eyes closed and just soar across the dextroverse, made me feel like goku or superman or something. such an insanely good body feeling too. getting side tracked though lol. I've got a pretty sensitive stomach nowadays, even though I eat very healthily. I wonder if all the syrup contributed to this. If I had a bunch of K I would damn well blow through it fast, I love that stuff. Feeling numb and so goddamned good, I really like that stuff. MXE scares me as the first time I tried it I blacked out & ate .7 of MDMA with no recollection of the event. 1 mxe cap 2 mxe cap 3 mxe cap floor
 
Dissociative tolerance does seem near permanent, but I do think it fades - just corresponding to how long you've been using. I abused K for several months, and for months after I still needed to take around a gram just to hole.

I took a long break though and now 60-80mg of MXE is enough for me to hole, which doesn't seem like a high tolerance since I've never heard of anyone holing from much less than that - and as far as I'm aware all NMDA antagonists share cross-tolerance, suggesting my Ketamine tolerance is back down.
 
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