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Regional Pills/MDMA Discussion: Next Cunt to Name a Naughty Web Vendor Gets Infracted

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packet_sniffer said:
Peach Dutch Lions are 159-175mg according to Dutch test center. I think these are made by a smaller syndicate in Netherlands. This crew pump out smaller batches of pills.

There are Green, Yellow, Orange, Peach & Blue Dutch Lions. I think they are all from the same presser. I think yellow is 2CB. Green is 4FMP. Orange/Peach/Blue is MDMA.

No copycat batches around. Copycat's usually come from the original pressers not other syndicates/groups. They just water down the MDMA content for bigger profits.

Yes there is a direct lineage from known syndicates/groups. The big syndicates/groups will make a new press every 1/2 weeks. Smaller groups stay with a couple of presses.

The big syndicates/groups can pump out 200KG of MDMA every day in superlabs. Smaller crews run from 10KG to 50KG batches a day.

PMK glycidate is the main precursor used in MDMA production in the Netherlands. 50KG of PMK glycidate powder makes 30 liters of PMK oil. PMK glycidate is cheap in bulk.

If you would ask a Dutch chemist I'm sure he would say they would like to work with Safrole Oil. But it's almost impossible to get these days. MDMA made from Safrole Oil produces a more stoned body high.
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Great info again!

What's the average age of forum members? Is there a lot that were around in the 90's when pills were usually spot on, who would know the difference in lost empathy in most of today's pills?
 
Hmm - not those I had . . .

Thought the Teslas fine (got told off for saying 'bangin'' before :( ) pills but found the Instagrams lovey-er, feely-er and slightly stronger . . .
 
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Has anyone had the green dollar bills?
Some friends tried them and weren't mad about them, despite claiming to be 200mg+
 
Grassman said:
Can someone tell me what the blue Instagrams are like?
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Blue Instagrams were bang on, how are people still getting blue Instagrams and orange don perignons? They back date a few months, mind you I suppose some stock up, at the minute it's red supremes, yellow snapchats and philipp pleins... Think the minions and mastercards are landing soon.

Still have saved a few RR 2.0s 2 peach lions and then an Adidas cut out <3

Should really post up a picture of my collection so far, probably on a good 40+
 
I would not trust online vendors or street vendors. They don't know the purity of the drugs they sell.

It is just a wild guess in most cases. Drug dealers are also huge liars. I do not trust anything that comes out of a drug dealers mouth.

Truth is most vendors are at least 2 or 3 steps away from the production of the pills/MDMA. On the street it can be 8 to 10 steps from production.

I would only trust the test center results from the Netherlands.

There is also the spread that occurs between batches of pressed pills. This can sometimes be from 120mg per pill to 270 per pill. Dangerous!

Most labs in the Netherlands do not know how to correctly press pills. Most are amateurs using cheap Chinese pill presses you can buy on eBay.

There are a few syndicates who know what they are doing. very professional. Low spread and high quality pills.
 
flashbak1 said:
Great pills. Very strong.
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Similar high to the Red UPS or even better? I've heard they're from the same crew.

I personally think this Partyflock crew is pretty decent. The Red UPS for example aren't nowhere near as nice as the Dutch Lions or Orange Teslas, but still really euphoric and get you there, no mongyness, for me anyway.
 
In the beginning of this resurgence of good pills there were 2 main crews. The ones pressing the orange Q-Dance and Defqon's, and the crew making the Speakers/Nintendo's.

From my own findings I remember the Q-Dance/Defqon crew had better feeling pills. Those first orange Q's and Defqon's weren't mongy for me. Maybe packet_sniffer knows which presses these 2 teams are coming out with now? I'd guess the Speaker/Nintendo crew are behind the Red Supreme's and other similar ones. Are the Q/Defqon people behind the tomorrowlands?

I don't think the Lions are anything to do with either? I'm planning a session on Saturday but cant figure out what to go with. I thought the Red UPS were pretty average. I tried them in the pub and in a club just halves, wouldn't complain about being mongy but the UFO's/other UK pills were definitely better. Thus making me think I shouldn't gamble and just buy the rainbow drops. I've seen Treacle say they weren't as good as other UK presses but at least his first trial of them he seemed impressed. I'm betting they are still better than most of these other ones being mentioned.
 
Sid said:
In the beginning of this resurgence of good pills there were 2 main crews. The ones pressing the orange Q-Dance and Defqon's, and the crew making the Speakers/Nintendo's.

From my own findings I remember the Q-Dance/Defqon crew had better feeling pills. Those first orange Q's and Defqon's weren't mongy for me. Maybe packet_sniffer knows which presses these 2 teams are coming out with now? I'd guess the Speaker/Nintendo crew are behind the Red Supreme's and other similar ones. Are the Q/Defqon people behind the tomorrowlands?

I don't think the Lions are anything to do with either? I'm planning a session on Saturday but cant figure out what to go with. I thought the Red UPS were pretty average. I tried them in the pub and in a club just halves, wouldn't complain about being mongy but the UFO's/other UK pills were definitely better. Thus making me think I shouldn't gamble and just buy the rainbow drops. I've seen Treacle say they weren't as good as other UK presses but at least his first trial of them he seemed impressed. I'm betting they are still better than most of these other ones being mentioned.
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Red Supremes are from Checkpoint, same presser of the Orange Teslas and Snapchats. This is why you see CP on the back of the Snapchats, probably on the Red Supremes too. This MDMA is definitely different for me, it's way more lovey and euphoric.
 
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