! If ever there was a case supporting testing, this is it.pretty fucked up Green Grenade https://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=3907![]()
Bogman started compiling a list of things like that, made it a sticky
Does anyone here have an account on partyflock that they can use to ask the members if any more exist?
I was born in the Netherlands but live/work in London now. I have an account on partyflock. I'm on the forums now. What do you need to know?
I was born in the Netherlands but live/work in London now. I have an account on partyflock. I'm on the forums now. What do you need to know?
I suspect not - check out the Trimbos notification on this PR page: http://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=region_home®ion=2Magic.
Can you ask in the drugs forum, if the results that they post are listed anywhere (on websites), or if they are just individual results that they each have been given personally by testing centres and PL is the only place that they report the results.
Stands to reason that there might be somewhere collating the information e.g. on the actual testing centres websites. If so, can they provide links please?
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I suspect not - check out the Trimbos notification on this PR page: http://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=region_home®ion=2
Seems to imply that formally collating results online from Dutch test centres is frowned on.
I have some answers to the questions that were asked.
There is no central website that collects all test data in the Netherlands. You submit a pill/powder/tab and the test center gives you a number to call back.
Best pills in the Netherlands at the moment would be Yellow Phillip Plein, Red Wolves, Blue Instagram, Black Dice, & Orange Magnets.
No one would take UK made pills in the Netherlands. They only take the homegrown made MDMA and pills.
I will ask about MDMA quality and not feeling empathy while on the Dutch MDMA & pills. I will get back to you with an answer mate![]()
Red MasterCard's, Orange Owls and Lime Green/Yellow Minion's are also popular at the moment in the Netherlands.
Orange Owls are lab tested at 240mg MDMA. MasterCard's & Minions are lab tested at190mg to 200mg MDMA.
They are rated for strength and effect. People are describing these pills as very heavy and hard hitting.
But if you start with 1/2 a pill the desired MDMA effects are present. The love is still there.
Test centers can test for left over precursor chemicals in pills. But I don't think they can differentiate between different production methods.
I know 95% of MDMA that is being made in the Netherlands is being made with Chinese PMK oil.
There is a precursor to PMK oil that has been found and is being used. It is a pure white powder and easy to smuggle in through Dutch ports.
Anything else you would like to know?
But if you start with 1/2 a pill the desired MDMA effects are present. The love is still there.
I find that the 2c-b / mdma combo works best if you're already up on your pill before you take the 2c-b. If I take both together they seem to cancel each other out a bit. Maybe I need to up my doses though.
I've only done it twice, but both times dropped 20mg of 2cb about 2 hours into the MDMA. Don't redose either, but you should get a good 6 hours
I find that too, no need for a large dose to start with the MDMA maybe 140-160, then when that levels out 20mg 2c-b. The other thing is 2c-b takes a while to hit, and I always found it annoying taking it first then waiting to take the MD. Did both together before and it seemed to take some of the "enlightened" vibes I got off 2c-b away from the experience. Everyone's different ,I know a lot prefer the 2c-b first as it lasts longer.