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Regional Pills/MDMA Discussion: Next Cunt to Name a Naughty Web Vendor Gets Infracted

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Treacle I know you don't follow the whole wait before rolling as you bounce back real quick but you appear to have dropped some seriously heroic pillage over the last few weeks bruv. I'm purely basing my assumption on going by your first report of whoooooosh then rather than less Magic a few days later? now to see if I can actually find any rainbows. Looks like 1 with a 2 hour wait followed by 1 would be the way to go. Peak extension and continuation.
 
To the last two responses; the friends I did them with haven't dropped for weeks, and I said nothing to them about Rainbow Drops being inferior to past pills. These two friends have only taken pills for a year, and they've mainly done All-Stars, UFOs and Dutch Lions. They said that these weren't the same, and lacked what those other pills had. I thought it was just me, until they both said the same thing to me. It would explain why the Manchester lot put out pastels and the shitty Microsofts, then had a long break, because they'd ran out of their own MDMA. I'm certain that these contain inferior MDMA, but they're still nice enough to take. They're just missing that love... I believe this is because newer synths of MDMA don't make the brain release oxytocin, like safrole/PMK based pills do. The burst of serotonin, dopamine and noradrenaline forms a lot of the effects, but oxytocin is what causes the love and empathy.
 
Treacie said:
I'm certain that these contain inferior MDMA, but they're still nice enough to take. They're just missing that love... I believe this is because newer synths of MDMA don't make the brain release oxytocin, like safrole/PMK based pills do. The burst of serotonin, dopamine and noradrenaline forms a lot of the effects, but oxytocin is what causes the love and empathy.
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Furhter exposition, please.

I thought synthesised MDMA was simply synthesised MDMA? No good or bad versions, just a chemical?

Why would newer synths not release oxytocin? isn't it receptor 5-ht1 that causes love/empathy, and thats exactly what MDMA targets??
 
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Raasyvibe said:
Furhter exposition, please.

I thought synthesised MDMA was simply synthesised MDMA? No good or bad versions, just a chemical?

Why would newer synths not release oxytocin? isn't it receptor 5-ht1 that causes love/empathy, and thats exactly what MDMA targets??
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There is no scientific study to find why this is the case, that's the simple answer.
 
as i said before, everything from the nintendo all stars to these rainbow drops have been pretty inconsistent in my eye's. friends enjoyed the UFO's the most
 
Although, everything up until the All-Stars were consistent, for a good five years. Every batch got stronger, but they've now ruined that. When the All-Stars came out, they were amazing, then there was a weird change in the effects. The fact that they were around for a year or two suggests that more than one batch was made. The UFOs were the best, closely followed by Turtles. I'll try the Rainbow Drops again, after a bit of recovery and see what happens. I've got my eye on some Dutch Lions, which are insanely cheap, so I'm sure I'll have a few more things to say about those, as well.
 
Funny watching Treacle get flamed so much here. He's probably the most credible member EADD has got on this subject atm. I've heard great things about all these pills and the Lions too. However have to say it's ridiculous how little care the Dutch manufactures appear to be taking in what they do now. I almost wonder would US or Canadian MDMA be better than Dutch stuff on the whole. I read Canada actually produces more than Holland these days. How true that is I dont know.
 
That's nice of you to say, mate. I don't think think I'm being flamed, don't worry. This debate has been raging on for about five years, now. There's more people that disagree with the 'MDMA is MDMA' statement, than ever. Let's just hope we get back to proper MDMA/MDA pills. You'd think that after 14 years of taking pills, I'd be sick of them, but decent pills always hit the spot. I don't see any reason why I'd ever stop taking them. Other than the last week, I only really do them maybe once a month, or less, instead of at every available opportunity, like I used to. If anything, I'm a bit annoyed that it's turned me into an MDMA snob.

Do any Dutch people complain about their pills lacking love and empathy? I'm not sure if we have many Dutch members...
 
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That's nice of you to say, mate. I don't think think I'm being flamed, don't worry. This debate has been raging on for about five years, now. There's more people that disagree with the 'MDMA is MDMA' statement, than ever. Let's just hope we get back to proper MDMA/MDA pills. You'd think that after 14 years of taking pills, I'd be sick of them, but decent pills always hit the spot. I don't see any reason why I'd ever stop taking them. Other than the last week, I only really do them maybe once a month, or less, instead of at every available opportunity, like I used to. If anything, I'm a bit annoyed that it's turned me into an MDMA snob.

Do any Dutch people complain about their pills lacking love and empathy? I'm not sure if we have many Dutch members...
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I'm Dutch, well Belgian but same language, culture and pills, and yeah, there's a lot of complaining about the Dutch pills here as well. Some of my friends have actually stopped taking MDMA because of this. Don't know what to make of it anymore myself
 
SilentRoller said:
Well Dutch lion for a first dose it is then! What is so good about them? I seem to hear a lot of praise about them on here.

My plan for the rave is a dutch lion, followed by a dom perignon and perhaps half a nintendo. Yes I love to get wrecked on ocassion.

Has anyone used the rolls royce 2.0 pills? I heave them in white/really light green and they STINK of safrole.
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Had the rolls Royce 2.0 light green over in Amsterdam back in April. Very nice pills they didn't mong me out too much. I wasn't able to find any reports on them afterwards though.
 
BlueBull said:
I'm Dutch, well Belgian but same language, culture and pills, and yeah, there's a lot of complaining about the Dutch pills here as well. Some of my friends have actually stopped taking MDMA because of this. Don't know what to make of it anymore myself
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All of my Dutch mates have moved onto 4-fmp because of this reason.

I'm also afraid to tell you that I found the Grey Nespresso to be super mongy. I wouldn't take one again even for free. This was after a long break too. I then had an Orange Owl 2 days later and it was super energetic and pretty magical. 1 week later I had a Silver Bar which was also mongy, but just five days later I had a Dutch Lion which blew everything out of the water. The setting for the Dutch Lion was the least exciting party too.

MDMA is not just MDMA. Every pill I've had has a distinct feeling.
 
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My hunch is that we put too much trust in labs and people who report lab results. I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of what is in pills and crystal turns out to be something like MDE instead of MDMA. It fits the profile of being mongy and short lived. I think the most tantelizing evidence to this is the different colour marquis turns to new MDMA (black) instead of the old MDMA (purply black). A interesting quote from Phikal

'The effects of MDE are similar in many ways to those of MDMA, but there are believable differences. The particular magic, and affective transference, does not appear to be there. There is a stoning intoxication, as there is with MDA, and there is a seemingly unrewarding aspect to the upping of the dosages, again similar to MDA, and the properties of unusually easy communication and positive self-viewing of MDMA seem to be absent.'

I can remember reading something about someone sending a known sample to wendios and they got it wrong.
 
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My first pill in 94 was a PT (party timer/pete tong) - mdea. Pretty shit, felt like many of the Amsterdam pills - just a little bit mongy and spacey.
Also, some research chemicals like 5-map test blue/black with Marquis
Unfortunately I don't think Dutch lions are available to me, so I'm taking a break until something decent comes along.
 
Has anyone had the pink lions, which are twice the size of the peach ones, and supposedly 300mg? There's a price difference and they're being touted as being strong enough to take in halves. Someone selling lions also sells MDMA, which is ridiculously cheap and is apparently manufactured with PMK, rather than the new way. It's realistic to assume that it's the same MDMA that goes into the lions, further reinforcing the point that precursors are likely the issue.
 
Treacle said:
Has anyone had the pink lions, which are twice the size of the peach ones, and supposedly 300mg? There's a price difference and they're being touted as being strong enough to take in halves. Someone selling lions also sells MDMA, which is ridiculously cheap and is apparently manufactured with PMK, rather than the new way. It's realistic to assume that it's the same MDMA that goes into the lions, further reinforcing the point that precursors are likely the issue.
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Good MDMA pill wouldn't need to be 300mg.

PMK MDMA is almost as 'meh' as whatever they're using now, nice high but damned if it lasts longer than 2 hours even with a top up. This based purely off my subjective experiences and if the vendors I'm using actually speak the truth.

I wanted to stock up for winter but can't decide what to get. Raindrops are low dose and average high? Dose doesn't worry me, but if you're doing 1.5 the dose and it's still nothing special then I'll pass.

Lions? There's too many batches out, anyone got pictures of what they know is good?
 
Mooley said:
Think I'll give the rainbow drops a swerve, must be shite if people need to double drop........
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Can people swerve this mentality?

Who cares if you need 3, it's the quality if high that's important.
 
Kinda contradicted yourself there Tec? I'm giving them a miss for the same reason you've just put in your last post.
 
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