Regional pills/MDMA Discussion: Nae vendor discussion.

[Sprout]

Just wanna point out that the appearance and size of crystalline MDMA is meaningless, like texture.
It's actually fairly easy to alter in either direction and a fairly reliable way to shift poor quality compounds, MDMA or otherwise.

 

[MiniNapalm]

^Maybe try washing it. Seems like the Candians are mostly not using PMK-glycidate but safrole. Just the purity that's lacking, that's the impression I get anyway.

Then again with Tec's stuff maybe not, when it's only lasting 90mins

How, practically do you go about doing that mate?

 

[Sprout]

Do a quick pull with various solvents that MDMA's solubility in is known.
Filter endlessly.

The more solvents used, the more impurities are removed provided they are of a different molecular composition to MDMA.

Acetone, Ether, Chloroform etc., are the typical solvents used.

 

[Tec]

Do impurities even matter? Could one not just increase their dose?

 

[Sprout]

It's impossible to increase one's dose by a known amount and give feedback if the product is impure from the start.

I had hoped it'd become obvious by now, but does no one question the consistent production of MDMA that follows the rules of biochem and everyone's expectation coming from a particular city famed for outstanding Org. Chem. education and the very birth of Ecstasy culture?
Especially with the relentless marketing and advertising the other major lab(s) put in yet consistently produce an inferior product?

8)

 

[swedger77]

I will always maintain, at least until it's proven incorrect by more than anecdotes, that MDMA is a very dose sensitive compound with multiple options: 50mg for therapeutic use, 100mg as an empathogenic stimulant, 120-150mg as "Ecstasy" and above that tends to result in the delirious, mongy, slightly disconnected state that isn't exactly enjoyable.

Spot on. Never would anything above 120-130mg be required. Back in the day halves were still a great feeling. Fuck knows what is going on but id personally pay £30/pill for that old skool feeling. So glad I ve experienced and maxed out when i did!

 

[Sprout]

Spot on. Never would anything above 120-130mg be required. Back in the day halves were still a great feeling. Fuck knows what is going on but id personally pay £30/pill for that old skool feeling. So glad I ve experienced and maxed out when i did!

People seem to forget that one of the defining qualities of MDMA is that everything feels new, unique, and ultimately different.
Combine that with those who used in the 90's when MDMA was consistent and proven as pure comparing their experiences to the vastly different landscape of its production these days (shitty fucking chemists will always be that; so will their work) and the globalisation of the internet allowing every uneducated Tom, Dick, or Harry, but mainly complete dick to throw a random guess out whenever they want and you end up with the situation we have today.

The more myths that are perpetuated, the more can be utilised by the cowboys - "ooooh, small, fine crystals mean good stuff" and then through a simple acetonitrile reaction all of the shite is now marketable.

8)

 

[SmokingAces]

How, practically do you go about doing that mate?

Very easily mate you can buy 250ml bottle 99% acetone from boots online for £2.50

You buy some coffee filters

You get your drugs, and a glass

Pour in the acetone, throw in 1g

Stir, leave for 15, repeat, repeat again

Pour through the coffee filter

Leave to dry for 6 hours under a lamp

Boom your gear is now better quality

 

[Sprout]

Acetone has a habit of pulling through impurities due to the dipolarity causing both polar and non-polar compounds to dissociate/dissolve.

All processes should include both polar and non-polar solvent extractions, one is only half the process with a third of the effectiveness.

 

[SmokingAces]

Yeah mate I only ever really did it with coke but I knew my gear was tested clean by wedinos so only acetone to remove inactive cuts

 

[Tec]

So what else would you need to do besides an acetone wash as described by Sid?

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

FYI, Home Bargains do 150ml bottles of acetone for a quid. It's not anhydrous, but that can be easily sorted by the Epsom salt trick.

 

[pothole]

Washing mdma is going to do nothing to shit mdma. If you start with shit mdma you will still end up with shit mdma.

 

[Sprodo]

I had 2 Dutch lions last night and they were lovely. Very old school feeling to them, much better than anything else over the last few years, and strong. Slightly harsh comedown though, which, actually also reminds me of old school pills.

Love the Dutch lions but that taste when in mouth nearly makes me sick! Makes me a bit sad knowing I've only got 8 left...

Who has tried pink nipples ? Had some good reactions earlier in thread?

Have the lions been replaced yet?

 

[Grassman]

Would love to know what the replacement is...

 

[Grassman]

Does anyone know if the MDMA in the blue Dutch lions is the same as the orange ones? (I know they are weaker)

 

[SilentRoller]

Does anyone know if the MDMA in the blue Dutch lions is the same as the orange ones? (I know they are weaker)

That seems like a rather hard question to answer mate (not being a dick). I've tried the peach ones and they were fucking amazing. If the blue are from the same crew, we could assume so. However, if the blue tesla pills are anything to go by, the 2nd batch wasn't as good as the first imo.

 

[Grassman]

It's not a hard question to answer if someone has tried both maybe? I happen to know they have less MDMA in them but I am interested in what the quality is like, compared to the orange ones

 

[Small_town_casual]

That seems like a rather hard question to answer mate (not being a dick). I've tried the peach ones and they were fucking amazing. If the blue are from the same crew, we could assume so. However, if the blue tesla pills are anything to go by, the 2nd batch wasn't as good as the first imo.

I thought the blue teslas were alright but if you are referring to them not being as good as the orange then that's because the orange ones were from a different crew.

 

[oui]

Does anyone know if the MDMA in the blue Dutch lions is the same as the orange ones? (I know they are weaker)

I'd also like to know - it seems I maybe be able to source some of them! Supposedly 160mg.