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Regional Pill/MDMA Discussion: maybe it's mdea...

MDMAhead said:
What's to stop a Dutch presser from pressing strong MDMA pills for the Dutch market, and then weak MDMA pills (or non-MDMA pills) for export to the UK?

I am very sceptical about the current UK pill/crystal market, and with good reason. I mean, I think everyone agrees we had a year-long MDMA-drought (although IMO we're actually still in drought), and it's pretty clear that there are lots of cunts out there making pills/crystal that is specifically designed to fool the testing-kits. So yeah, I think I have every right to presume that a pill isn't MDMA unless proven otherwise.
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I suppose the best thing we can do with this non regulated Market is hope for the best then. As you say, they may press really nice MDMA pills for the Dutch Market and then press exactly the same looking ones but either with MDEA (same net cost) or someother less known substance, for the Ireland/Uk Market.

Ah what about the EZ tests I hear some of you smart arses shout! Well unfortunately these bastards are fooling these as well now you see.

Ok then, check Pill Reports or Bluelight and make an educated guess on peoples opinions on the particular pills, that will do it surely! Well no actually because even though many of the comments on there are from long time users with many years of MDMA experience under their belt, you still can't trust them you see.

The green stars are a classic example. The vast vast vast majority think they are amazing pills. Even the new up to date comments on here and PR are hugely positive, but the bastards have slipped some MDEA ones to our poster above just to fuck everything up. Bastards. They have even changed the apperance of the dye on some of them very slightly so people start using the notorious 'batches' word. The fact that all these 'batches' are fuckin amazing still fans the flames of the doubters.

As MDMAhead quite rightly states you can't trust the pill situation at the moment even when the massive, overwhelming weight of evidence points towards good strong MDMA pills.

I mean let's face it, even if you have had the pills lab tested in front of your very eyes, you have still got that tricky last 2 feet as you get the pill out of the bag and pop it into your mouth.

Someone could swap it or anything.
 
SpecialK_ said:
Finally got some photos of this MDMA crystal. This is a small amount which I have put aside for testing, unfortunately my camera isn't the greatest but you can see with even this small amount that it is quite crystally. I don't know how people are saying this can be crushed into a powder, as this is after I have crushed the stuff and it is still quite crystally - I attempted to crush this with more than my fingers. The letters you can see at the sides of the photos are of my laptop's keyboard, the crystal itself is in a skin on the laptop - so this is a very rough comparison but it's sufficient for now.

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Looks really white... very very much like the latest batch of piperazine crystal I have encountered a few people trying to flog again at the moment, Give it a lick if it tastes really strong almost metallic like then it is, also another thing I have found, with real mdma crystal if you put a tiny crystal on your tongue it will melt in instantly and leave a slightly cold feeling patch, where as the pipez will just sit there for a while tasting horrible
 
g1zzl3 said:
Looks really white... very very much like the latest batch of piperazine crystal I have encountered a few people trying to flog again at the moment, Give it a lick if it tastes really strong almost metallic like then it is, also another thing I have found, with real mdma crystal if you put a tiny crystal on your tongue it will melt in instantly and leave a slightly cold feeling patch, where as the pipez will just sit there for a while tasting horrible
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Definitely not metallic, has a strong chemical bitter taste that even a small amount (non recreational dose) gives a taste of. In larger amounts the crystal didn't look white to me, it reminded me of cream but I have found tan to now be a better colour to determine it as. One thing I found that was keeping this from me finding it to be piperazine was that it was extremely clean, gave me no comedown - a nice afterglow of happiness and I slept fine, something I wouldn't expect from piperazine. A person did vomit after taking a decent dose of this, but immediately after throwing up they began to come up hard with a massive smile - something that I have seen previously that hints it to be MDMA. Test kit is massively needed. :)
 
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SpecialK_ said:
A person did vomit after taking a decent dose of this, but immediately after throwing up they began to come up hard with a massive smile - something that I have seen previously that hints it to be MDMA.
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For me, an 'ecstasy smile' is the biggest indication that a pill/crystal contains MDMA. Back when MDMA pills were common in this country, you used to see clubs full of people with massive smiles on their faces. Infact, the day after a club night, my face muscles would often ache from smiling so much the night before.
 
MDMAhead said:
Infact, the day after a club night, my face muscles would often ache from smiling so much the night before.
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This actually happened to that specific person the next day, they were complaining of their face genuinely aching due to smiling so much. It gave a smile that wasn't possible to get rid of, something I'd never encountered before which is the main reason I would like to get this tested as it's giving off all the right effects even before I knew of them.
 
The Quad said:
I suppose the best thing we can do with this non regulated Market is hope for the best then. As you say, they may press really nice MDMA pills for the Dutch Market and then press exactly the same looking ones but either with MDEA (same net cost) or someother less known substance, for the Ireland/Uk Market.

Ah what about the EZ tests I hear some of you smart arses shout! Well unfortunately these bastards are fooling these as well now you see.

Ok then, check Pill Reports or Bluelight and make an educated guess on peoples opinions on the particular pills, that will do it surely! Well no actually because even though many of the comments on there are from long time users with many years of MDMA experience under their belt, you still can't trust them you see.

The green stars are a classic example. The vast vast vast majority think they are amazing pills. Even the new up to date comments on here and PR are hugely positive, but the bastards have slipped some MDEA ones to our poster above just to fuck everything up. Bastards. They have even changed the apperance of the dye on some of them very slightly so people start using the notorious 'batches' word. The fact that all these 'batches' are fuckin amazing still fans the flames of the doubters.

As MDMAhead quite rightly states you can't trust the pill situation at the moment even when the massive, overwhelming weight of evidence points towards good strong MDMA pills.

I mean let's face it, even if you have had the pills lab tested in front of your very eyes, you have still got that tricky last 2 feet as you get the pill out of the bag and pop it into your mouth.

Someone could swap it or anything.
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this is just a hunch, but im detecting just a small undercurrent of sarcasm here?
 
captain codshit said:
6-APB isn't going to be appearing in pills any time soon. It's more expensive than MDMA at the moment. Can be bought cheap from Asia maybe, but nobody knows what the quality of the powder is like.

It will either be MDMA for the premium price or pips for the 50p a pill.

And the whole MDEA chat about those stars seems ridiculous to me. The guy I used to buy the sonics off has them now, twice the price of the sonics in singles and more than twice in bulk. He says the stars have a bit more to them. They also look like they are from the same makers as the pink butterflies I had in Belgium, they were lovely clean pills.

MDEA is pretty rare and as far as I know no pills I've ever tried have been MDEA.
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shit, where you been Codders, fell off the face of the planet yes?
 
Special K - that looks like no MDMA I've ever seen. Is the consistency damp? If so it's 100% not MDMA, which is a rocksalt :\

For me, an 'ecstasy smile' is the biggest indication that a pill/crystal contains MDMA. Back when MDMA pills were common in this country, you used to see clubs full of people with massive smiles on their faces. Infact, the day after a club night, my face muscles would often ache from smiling so much the night before.
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So to you a smile is more of a sign of MDMA than going round hugging everyone, chattery jaw, pie eyes etc? I know loads of people who take pips and sit there smiling all night cos they are enjoying it.

I mean let's face it, even if you have had the pills lab tested in front of your very eyes, you have still got that tricky last 2 feet as you get the pill out of the bag and pop it into your mouth.
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I like you Quad. :)
 
Hello, after reading through this thread, thought I'd chip in my thoughts. I've been doing E since 1995, so I am pretty sure I know what MDMA feels like.

Since the drought I have had brown crystal, creamy crystal and iron crosses, all of which are defo MDMA. The brown crystal isn't quite as clean or lovey as the other 2,but it is definitely Mandy. This happens sometimes with MDMA, the effects can vary from one batch to the next, it doesn't necessarily mean it's bunk or mdea. In fact, I remember the first batch of mitsies, after a similar drought in 1996/97 felt similar, I have a feeling it is due to a production method that uses an alternative to safrole, but that is just a theory. Either way, it's all MDMA. Not, MDEA.
 
white crystal in Leeds - very very nice and clean, not the strongest but certainly worth £40 for a g

yellow crystal in Manchester - also very nice and clean but a tad stronger (apparently, only tried the Leeds stuff myself, but people that took both said the yellow stuff was stronger)

not sure about the availability of the Leeds stuff, it came from Halifax, but there is shit loads of the yellow stuff in Manchester, loads of people selling it keep getting texts from old contacts who stopped in the drought who are now swimming in MD
 
captain codshit said:
So to you a smile is more of a sign of MDMA than going round hugging everyone, chattery jaw, pie eyes etc? I know loads of people who take pips and sit there smiling all night cos they are enjoying it.
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Ah yes, but I'm sure your pips friends could easily stop smiling if they tried to. Whereas when I'm properly high on MDMA, I literally cannot stop smiling for longer than about 1 second, no matter how hard I try - that's what's known as an 'ecstasy smile' =D
 
tekkeN said:
white crystal in Leeds - very very nice and clean, not the strongest but certainly worth £40 for a g

yellow crystal in Manchester - also very nice and clean but a tad stronger (apparently, only tried the Leeds stuff myself, but people that took both said the yellow stuff was stronger)

not sure about the availability of the Leeds stuff, it came from Halifax, but there is shit loads of the yellow stuff in Manchester, loads of people selling it keep getting texts from old contacts who stopped in the drought who are now swimming in MD
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Does the yellow stuff from Manchester look anything like this?

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Not the best image to go off, and it's crushed up as it's already been in a capsule, but if it's the same stuff it certainly isn't clean or strong.
 
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MDMAhead said:
Ah yes, but I'm sure your pips friends could easily stop smiling if they tried to. Whereas when I'm properly high on MDMA, I literally cannot stop smiling for longer than about 1 second, no matter how hard I try - that's what's known as an 'ecstasy smile' =D
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you should try some of the 'mdma' i had the other day then, you would lik it, it only made you smile, exactly what ur after!
 
MDMAhead said:
For me, an 'ecstasy smile' is the biggest indication that a pill/crystal contains MDMA. Back when MDMA pills were common in this country, you used to see clubs full of people with massive smiles on their faces. Infact, the day after a club night, my face muscles would often ache from smiling so much the night before.
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yeah you just know that smile,
oh its a long time since i had that face ache,
 
Evad said:
big grins sound more like acid/mushrooms to me
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When I said that MDMA was one of only 3 drugs I give a fuck about, the other 2 were acid and mushrooms =D

- I've done mushrooms 6 times, and loved them every time, although I don't remember them making me smile much. I just remember them making me feel really mellow, and giving me amazing visuals.

On the other hand, I've only done acid once (and absolutely loved it!). And that did make me smile, although not as much as MDMA.
 
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