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Regional Pill/MDMA Discussion: maybe it's mdea...

felix77 said:
I've read a few places that MDE aka Eve is a fairly common result from labs that can't complete the synthesis. It is like MDMA but has lower empathy, no body rush, lower as to apposed to higher tactile sensation and a horrible comedown. Sounds on par to me for some of the "MDMA" going around.
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load of shit mate, MDE is not an intermediate of MDMA synthesis, they use different starting chemicals.

parttime crackhead said:
If MDE is actually from an incomplete synth then that maybe true. I've never heard much about it until now though, surprised it hasn't been mentioned in amongst all the MDEA chat if that is the case.
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because it's even more bullshit than the majority of the MDEA chat.


no results from ecstasydata, the swiss places like streetwork and safeparty and the dutch results posted on PR showing MDEA in the past couple of years still as far as I can see...
 
Evad said:
no results from ecstasydata, the swiss places like streetwork and safeparty and the dutch results posted on PR showing MDEA in the past couple of years still as far as I can see...
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I agree with you that, based on recent labtest results, it is unlikely that any of our current pills/crystal contain MDEA. But I can totally see why people are suggesting it - there are several recent batches of pills/crystal that are testing positive with the EZ test kits, but that aren't giving people any empathy or euphoria.

Here's a couple of pill reports from 2010 where people have suggested MDEA:

Red number 1s

Blue facebooks


Hopefully mine and felix77's labtests will shed some light on the situation.
 
pillreports speculation means fuckall compared to the lack of any MDEA in labtests, there are plenty of people saying somethings up so i would not be surprised if something is. it's just not MDEA

blue facebooks were classic MDMA btw :)
 
Evad said:
pillreports speculation means fuckall compared to the lack of any MDEA in labtests, there are plenty of people saying somethings up so i would not be surprised if something is. it's just not MDEA

blue facebooks were classic MDMA btw :)
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Never got to try the blue facebooks, wish i did though, first £10 pills i tried was stars then vw's , both great i thought, even compared to great ones i used to be able to get 4/5 years ago they are some of the best i have tried. Hope they are here to stay :)
 
Evad said:
pillreports speculation means fuckall compared to the lack of any MDEA in labtests, there are plenty of people saying somethings up so i would not be surprised if something is. it's just not MDEA

blue facebooks were classic MDMA btw :)
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Absolutely disagree, ive had a better time on a good mix of mcpp. They gave me hot/cold flushes, intense eye wiggles, cloudyness of the vision, a numbing headache at the back of the brain and a shitty comedown - agree they contained mdma, but they either only contained only a small amount and had something else in or it was poorly synthed.
 
Hardcore MDMAster said:
Never got to try the blue facebooks, wish i did though, first £10 pills i tried was stars then vw's , both great i thought, even compared to great ones i used to be able to get 4/5 years ago they are some of the best i have tried. Hope they are here to stay :)
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Exact same for me! ;) dont know why people are still complaining, why not just enjoy it =D who know's how long it's gonna last.
 
2low said:
Absolutely disagree, ive had a better time on a good mix of mcpp. They gave me hot/cold flushes, intense eye wiggles, cloudyness of the vision, a numbing headache at the back of the brain and a shitty comedown - agree they contained mdma, but they either only contained only a small amount and had something else in or it was poorly synthed.
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You must have got shite ones then because the ones I had were banging. Was there not supposed to be a 2nd or even 3rd batch of blue facebooks which were lighter in colour & pish?

Cheers for clearing up that MDE thing Evad. I hate it when people post stuff up here as if it's fact, when it's something I don't know a lot about (like MDMA/MDE synth) I have no reason to doubt them yet half the time it turns out to be nonsense.
 
derbylad87 said:
you tried the blue ones yet? i suppose theyre about the same strength...dont need more than 1 1/2 or 2 imo, theyre powerful little fuckers.
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cant find either for love nor money in manchester, pissing me off now..
 
2low said:
cant find either for love nor money in manchester, pissing me off now..
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ive got a feeling the blues were just a small batch cos there hasnt been much talk about em on here or pr really, still got my stash though :). what u gettin in manc at the minute then? i cant get fuck all in my area going to essex for the good stuff...
 
derbylad87 said:
ive got a feeling the blues were just a small batch cos there hasnt been much talk about em on here or pr really, still got my stash though :). what u gettin in manc at the minute then? i cant get fuck all in my area going to essex for the good stuff...
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Im the wrong person to ask really as i havent been buying anything on a regular basis for months, christ I havent even set foot in a club since May. The VW's are around its just i have lost/sacked off most of my reliable contacts that always had good gear (been busy in work so i suppose its a damage limitation thing). According to friends its the same as most places i.e shit pips being punted in the clubs, for good old fashioned ecstasy you need to know people.
 
the blue VWs i have were from manchester, acquired last week.

not going to be able to munch them for a few weeks though
 
2low said:
Im the wrong person to ask really as i havent been buying anything on a regular basis for months, christ I havent even set foot in a club since May. The VW's are around its just i have lost/sacked off most of my reliable contacts that always had good gear (been busy in work so i suppose its a damage limitation thing). According to friends its the same as most places i.e shit pips being punted in the clubs, for good old fashioned ecstasy you need to know people.
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yea your right mate, just got offered the purple riddlers and pink doves both of which are blatent pipes. explained to him i had the vw's he'd never even heard of em. wouldnt know a decent pill if it twatted him in the face, this is what we're dealing with...
 
Someone just posted on pr with the blue lacostes that quite a few people were talking about earlier in the thread. Tested blue/black or marquis and he is currently gurning his bake off.I've a feeling these are gonna be in plentiful supply so more good news for the uk pill scene,slowly but surely moving out of recession
 
Reading this thread these days makes me happy! i hate it that E is illegal though, i mean christ people will get pissed and fight and drive etc but a load of happy people just wanting to dance get treated like bloody criminals..
 
Evad said:
load of shit mate, MDE is not an intermediate of MDMA synthesis, they use different starting chemicals.



because it's even more bullshit than the majority of the MDEA chat.


no results from ecstasydata, the swiss places like streetwork and safeparty and the dutch results posted on PR showing MDEA in the past couple of years still as far as I can see...
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Personally I agree and think the talk of mdea is not true. I think it is all mdma of varying quality. I haven't had this grey stuff but the clearish greeny/yellowy tinted stuff in my opinion is good mdma. I have alot of experience of mdma crystal and how it varies due to dosage and surroundings. Personally the first time I did that stuff I got the most amazing waves of empathy and pleasure. I think one factor is some people are doing too much and just being too mullered. Also when you do alot of mdma you know how different experiences can be from exactly the same stuff.

As far as I know mda and mdma can be made in similar ways with a change in final step. But not mdea. As far as I know is a different process altogether? But I could be wrong I probably don't know every new synth method. But certainly with the well known ones.
 
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2low said:
Reading this thread these days makes me happy! i hate it that E is illegal though, i mean christ people will get pissed and fight and drive etc but a load of happy people just wanting to dance get treated like bloody criminals..
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tell me about it man,the whole fucking world is upside down.....
 
adam phinel said:
I think one factor is some people are doing too much and just being too mullered. Also when you do alot of mdma you know how different experiences can be from exactly the same stuff.
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The reports of bunk 'MDMA' crystal aren't just coming from random caners who've only been doing pills/crystal for 3 years. They're coming from experienced users, who know what dose to take.

With the last crystal I bought (search through my posts and you'll find a photo of it - it looked pretty good, and tested black with Marquis), I started by taking approximately 200 mg, which should have been enough to get me seriously high. But I got no euphoria, no empathy, no music enhancement, no energy, no blurry vision. All I got was a really dirty 'fucked' feeling, and it also made it incredibly difficult for me to urinate (I've had this problem from pills in the past, but I've never had it as bad as it was with this crystal).

I find it amazing how many excuses people are coming out with for crap MDMA. It seems people are determined to beleive that the 'MDMA' is infact good ('afterall, my dealer told me it was good, therefore it must be good'), rather than consider the possibility that the 'MDMA' might be crap, or even that it might not be MDMA at all. Sure, every MDMA experience may differ slightly, but no euphoria??? no empathy???? - cummon man, don't patronise everyone by making excuses as to why this garbage MDMA isn't working. Face the facts - it's either incredibly impure MDMA (most likely with an adulterant deliberately added to it), or it isn't MDMA at all.
 
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