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Regional Pill/MDMA Discussion - A Newer Age, A Newer Dawn, Another New Thread

muttonchops said:
heh, magic has well and truly gone for me too. Doesn't stop me from trying though....MDMA fail
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Same ere!

Did 2 malcolm Xs & 2 white mercedes on friday night.
Had a good night but certainly wasn't in "ecstacy".

Think I'll stick to acid, tryptamines & mushrooms for breathtaking euphoria!
Years of muching pills every weekend has caused some irreversable damage to my 5HT1a.
5HT2a/b/c is where its at when you've lost the MDMA magic! :)
 
also for me The magic went for me ten years ago and has never come back... i using MDMA since 1998...and I take 2 times a month... my dose of MDMA is 400 or 500 mg... if I sink below 400 mg did not feel hardly anything ...

there is some drug that restores serotonin that MDMA has consumed ?
 
Pink Diamonds still doing the rounds in Belfast. Starting to think someone has they're own press stashed somewhere. Green Rolexes and the Cherries as well
 
^^ That's the problem right there. (not you tm1210mk2)

We all know MDMA hits your serotonin levels, and we all accept that it needs time to recover - there's enough stuff out there that warns of serotonin depletion and recovery time. If you've been solidly caning the stuff every week or two for a few years, I think it's reasonable to assume you're gonna struggle to get what's left of your serotonin to play ball. Have any of you long term users and losers of the magic tried leaving it for a few months to see if there is any improvement? If not, I think we can assume some of your receptors are permanently fucked :\

All I can say for my part is that after over 15 years of casual use, I still get one hell of a nice buzz. I don't use more than once every 6-8 weeks, and occasionally longer. And I'm an old bastard too.

But as long as there are other options acid4blood, then it's still all good =D
 
erbaviva_girls said:
also for me The magic went for me ten years ago and has never come back... i using MDMA since 1998...and I take 2 times a month... my dose of MDMA is 400 or 500 mg... if I sink below 400 mg did not feel hardly anything ...

there is some drug that restores serotonin that MDMA has consumed ?
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heh, i guess there is still the on going debate as to whether MDMA can actually cause irreversible damage. I went through a period of my life where i could neither get excited or upset about anything. I credit part of this at least to recreational use of speed and MDMA over a prolonged period of time. Just my experience though.

The only solution, i have found really is to stay well away from any chemicals that drastically alter serotonin / dopamine levels....Which i can never do :/
 
When it comes to stims, I don't think any are as good after 15 years of abuse. Surely speed and meph would have lost most of its magic after that length of time? I don't get the buzz off MD like I used to but I persevere all the same.
 
nomy said:
All I can say for my part is that after over 15 years of casual use, I still get one hell of a nice buzz. I don't use more than once every 6-8 weeks, and occasionally longer. And I'm an old bastard too.
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That's the key, MDMA is a gift from the gods and shouldn't be abused in terms of frequency and dosage. I think doing it every weekend is a recipe for disaster. After a few consecutive weekends on the stuff I usually feel weird in the head anyway, your body telling you to chill out. Worst time for me was this year when I bulk bought some q-dances, I had a string of 7 weekends on it. Weirdly I was OK with it and functioning fine at work but it's not the way to go.

Once a month is probably fine if you love to get out clubbing. I do a lot of sport and know that within a few weeks (even 2) I am 100% recharged serotonin wise, so just add a safety margin onto that
 
@nomy, just answering your questions from previous page, quotes not working on my phone for some reason, anyway ten years ago I was 15 and wasn't as interested in HR as I am since I've found this site, I knew at the time I was depleting my seretonin levels but was not really aware I could cause myself so much (seemingly) irreversible damage, I suppose I was so young as well that my brain was still developing, this might have had a big part to play in the brain damage! I was using 2-3 times a week for about two years (stupid I know) but I must remind you I was 15!

I used a handful of times since then a free parties but I mainly stuck to k and cid, anyway that doesn't matter. The group of people I have been hangin with recently are just getting into their MD and are really enjoying it (crystals and pills) they are going here there and everywhere chatting shit to random strangers and telling each other how much the love each other, proper rushing! Anyway I got jealous so I have been dabbling in the last few months and I get nothing, slight rush on the come up but the nothing! Well annoying, can anyone provide any insight as to why MD does so little to me but speed gets me a absolutely wasted?
 
Seratonin receptors not working like they used to. A couple of years ago I got to a stage where I could eat 300mg of crystal as my starting dose and not be as wankered as some mates on 120mgs. Tollerance is a bitch, when you get one stop there and then, if not your fucked. I continued to batter away until I would get sleep paralysis for a week. Also caining mephedrone or other seratonin releasing drugs during your break will not help. I would imagine caining dopamine releasing ones isn't a good answer to this either.

Last two times I've done pills - pink diamonds and orange elephants neither has hit the spot. Qdances back in Jan actually did make me feel fucking magic, even from the first half. So in conclusion tollerance will go away given a long break, but you still gotta find the right batch of MD to get you there!
 
nomy said:
But as long as there are other options acid4blood, then it's still all good =D
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True dat!
The "magic" is all relative.
I always found mushrooms more euphoric than MDMA anyway.

Also used to wreck my mate's head when I was comin down off acid by constantly going on about how much better LSD is over MDMA. (he was a straight-up pill head.... never touched acid).
"THIS IS REAL HAPPINESS MAAAAAAN! NONE OF YOUR SKAGY FORCED MDMA HAPPINESS! TAKE A TRIP MAN. DO IT!" =D
 
muttonchops said:
heh, i guess there is still the on going debate as to whether MDMA can actually cause irreversible damage. I went through a period of my life where i could neither get excited or upset about anything. I credit part of this at least to recreational use of speed and MDMA over a prolonged period of time. Just my experience though.
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I think weed can sometimes be a bad one for this too.


rockstar 69 said:
Last two times I've done pills - pink diamonds and orange elephants neither has hit the spot. Qdances back in Jan actually did make me feel fucking magic, even from the first half. So in conclusion tollerance will go away given a long break, but you still gotta find the right batch of MD to get you there!
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I agree entirely! Sometimes the batch is what makes that 'magic' feeling, I've no idea why, but that's just the way it seems to be.

I honestly don't think I ever got to experience the whole 'magic' thing with MDMA, it's never made me go into the whole mad loved up frenzy that many find happening on their first time. I got exactly that off mephedrone, abused it and it went away, never got to experience that with MDMA. :( Pretty sure it would have been a lot better! Fuck droughts.
 
Acid4Blood said:
True dat!
The "magic" is all relative.
I always found mushrooms more euphoric than MDMA anyway.

Also used to wreck my mate's head when I was comin down off acid by constantly going on about how much better LSD is over MDMA. (he was a straight-up pill head.... never touched acid).
"THIS IS REAL HAPPINESS MAAAAAAN! NONE OF YOUR SKAGY FORCED MDMA HAPPINESS! TAKE A TRIP MAN. DO IT!" =D
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ahaha i know exactly what you are on about. iv only really started to experiment with acid the past month and i keep telling all my pill head friends how epic it really is but they just dont understand. i think i need to stay with the hippies from now on!
 
SpecialK_ said:
I agree entirely! Sometimes the batch is what makes that 'magic' feeling, I've no idea why, but that's just the way it seems to be.

I honestly don't think I ever got to experience the whole 'magic' thing with MDMA, it's never made me go into the whole mad loved up frenzy that many find happening on their first time. I got exactly that off mephedrone, abused it and it went away, never got to experience that with MDMA. :( Pretty sure it would have been a lot better! Fuck droughts.
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This is what anyone who has half a brain and knows what they are talking about would say :D

I agree, my first MDMA experiance was not my best. The best times came soon after when I did the right dose of MDMA for me, in the right enviroment, with the right people. Surprise, surprise...or not?

And I agree, mephedrone (the first few times you did it) was more empathetic, infact overly empathetic. It made you say such stupid loved things, cringe worthy now.

They are both synthetic empathy though. The empathy I've felt while drunk was probably more genuine in all honesty.

...not saying I don't love both ;)
 
rockstar 69 said:
Seratonin receptors not working like they used to. A couple of years ago I got to a stage where I could eat 300mg of crystal as my starting dose and not be as wankered as some mates on 120mgs. Tollerance is a bitch, when you get one stop there and then, if not your fucked. I continued to batter away until I would get sleep paralysis for a week. Also caining mephedrone or other seratonin releasing drugs during your break will not help. I would imagine caining dopamine releasing ones isn't a good answer to this either.

Last two times I've done pills - pink diamonds and orange elephants neither has hit the spot. Qdances back in Jan actually did make me feel fucking magic, even from the first half. So in conclusion tollerance will go away given a long break, but you still gotta find the right batch of MD to get you there!
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I had a break from pills for 10 years. The first recent ones I took after that break were the green recycles and both my mate and I agreed thay were not even close to being a proper mdma synth. Our eyes were wiggling about, but that was about it. They induced nausea and fatigue but virtually no decent feelings were had from them, including wanting to dance or appreciating music. We were in a club at the time and I'm sorry but they were in no way anywhere close to being as agood a quality of drug as the pills of old. Nor were the pink diamonds. Blue vws and brownish/purple hearts are the closest I've had to quality, but the effects seem to drop off as quickly as they've started imo. I put this down to different precursors and/or the old pilss containing mda/mdma/amphetamine combinations. I'm sure this is valid as an opinion, I just wish some chemist out there could really give a definitive answer to thwe debate that droans on every so often here.
 
id absolutely love to try these "old pills" with mdma/mda in them but if they had any amph, it would have to be a very small dose as im not a huge fan of it but i can imagine it combined with mdma. I also agree that pills these days lack the "i could dance all night long" feeling. sometimes i cant be fucked even getting out of my chair when im on pills.
 
headfuck123 said:
id absolutely love to try these "old pills" with mdma/mda in them but if they had any amph, it would have to be a very small dose as im not a huge fan of it but i can imagine it combined with mdma. I also agree that pills these days lack the "i could dance all night long" feeling. sometimes i cant be fucked even getting out of my chair when im on pills.
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Whether in pills or not (and some was), speed and MD went together anyway back then. When I started with MD in the mid 90's, EVERYONE took some billy as well as MD.

And yes, this has been covered many times before. But I guess it's kind of inevitable with such conflicting experiences.
 
mdma needs some sort of an upper with it, the pills i have recently were amazing but didnt make me wanna move around too much

the first proper pills i ever tried the tester went orange then black, felt fucking awesome off them.

still prefer pre ban meph over any md ive tried. got some more Green Lacoste pills en route though
 
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