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Regional Pill/MDMA Discussion - A Newer Age, A Newer Dawn, Another New Thread

Friend of mine had one of the snowflakes last night, he's a bit a mess head so some tolerance I presume, I asked him how it was he said he spent 4 hours trying to text his girlfriend "how amazing he felt inside" =D Looking forward to trying these out later ...However I havent had any MDMA for ages so probably gonna start with a half.

let us know how it was mate!
 
crystal in caps is the way forward, best ecstasy experiences ive ever had, pills are nice but fuck knows what else is slapped in with them, always been euphoric and loved up from them but never as cleanly as crystal mdma. always seem to get dodgy memory loss and trippy from pills as well. will never forget my most recently 150mg crystal md experiences, absolutely beautiful experience, so orgasmic couldnt stop rubbing things, so fucking good
 
Am now mate!

As for the Snowflakes, strong come up but very mongy. Had massive eye jitters for ages and felt fucked, no a lot of empathy or desire to be social... could be because I was very tired. Hallucinated a lot, had been playing Saints Row the Third all day and kept thinking I was in the game, that usually happens when I'm tired and do MD though.

As for the dosage, could well be around 180mg... hard to tell because my tolerance is all over the place it's difficult to gauge. Definitely 150+ though.

I think I'll go back to crystal in caps with caffeine if I'm being honest, be interesting to see what other people think of them.

Thats how I found the Q dances even though lots liked them.I have found crystal more reliable than these so called super pills.
 
Am now mate!

As for the Snowflakes, strong come up but very mongy. Had massive eye jitters for ages and felt fucked, no a lot of empathy or desire to be social... could be because I was very tired. Hallucinated a lot, had been playing Saints Row the Third all day and kept thinking I was in the game, that usually happens when I'm tired and do MD though.

As for the dosage, could well be around 180mg... hard to tell because my tolerance is all over the place it's difficult to gauge. Definitely 150+ though.

I think I'll go back to crystal in caps with caffeine if I'm being honest, be interesting to see what other people think of them.

Thats how I found the Q dances even though lots liked them.I have found crystal more reliable than these so called super pills.

If pills test as MDMA and nothing else other than binder and MDMA crystal is...MDMA then what's going on? Maybe because you can dose appropriately with crystal and not with pills? Maybe the Snowflake was too strong as a full one for you? Love MDMA myself and found I over did it on nights and may aswel have thrown it away and other nights I got it right and loved it. Surely crystal MDMA tests as MDMA and is the same as pills testing positive as MDMA and I'm talking test center tests here
 
Ecstasy is back in clubs as newly potent drug is taken with 'legal highs'

The drug of choice in the Nineties rave scene is coming back as a powder that can be shared socially like cocaine and distinguishes its more fashion-conscious users from 'pill heads'
- The Observer, Sunday 20 November 2011

Full Article below & NSFW'd due to length. it covers crystal use, and product sources from Netherlands and china

NSFW:
Ecstasy, the drug of choice for the clubbers of the early 1990s, is making a comeback. Once synonymous with the rave scene, its popularity declined as the diminishing amount of methylenedioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA, the potent chemical once found in ecstasy tablets, saw a new generation of clubbers seek alternative substances.

At the peak of its popularity, ecstasy was rarely out of the news with the designer drug blamed for a spate of deaths, often wrongly.

Just under 7% of 16 to 24-year-olds reported using ecstasy, according to the British crime survey of 2000-01, with more recent figures suggesting that the proportion had fallen to less than 4%.

Now, according to Drugscope, the organisation that monitors street prices of illicit substances, ecstasy is back in demand as producers reintroduce it as a "premium" product. The Drugscope survey found that, after an absence of more than a decade, high MDMA-content ecstasy was on sale in half of the 20 towns and cities featured in its annual survey of the UK drugs scene.

In some parts of the country, pills are selling for up to £15 each, pushing the average price of ecstasy up to £4 from last year's average of £2.65. At the millennium, some very low strength pills were selling for as little as £1 each.

The increase in potency has reduced the number of pills people are taking, with one or two pills sufficing instead of five or more, according to Drugscope, whose findings correspond with a growing body of research produced by a team at Lancaster University that suggests the market in ecstasy is fragmenting.

The team, led by Fiona Measham, a senior lecturer in criminology, observed that a two-tier market in ecstasy had opened up. "Generic" ecstasy pills, which have a minor stimulative effect but which do not necessarily contain an active dose of MDMA, sell for about £3 each, as compared with those ecstasy pills that contain an active dose of MDMA, which sell for about £10 each.

The team also noted that in the summer of 2011 there emerged "exceptionally high strength ecstasy" that contained a "much higher dose of MDMA than seen in recent years".

Earlier work by the team identified a burgeoning market in MDMA powder or "crystal". Its survey of 109 clubbers found evidence that the popularity of MDMA in powder form was usurping that of ecstasy tablets. In terms of recent usage, 31% of respondents reported having had MDMA powder or crystal within the last month, whereas 28% reported having taken ecstasy pills.

The powder is also popular on the post-club scene. The Lancaster survey found that 21% of respondents reported that their favourite drug, or combination of drugs, to take at "chill out" parties after clubbing included MDMA powder, compared with 15% who preferred ecstasy pills.

"People who do ecstasy really love ecstasy," Measham said. "There's a real fondness for it, and so when good quality MDMA has come on the scene people have started using it again. People say they become more the person they want to be when doing it. If you want to be more loving or affectionate, there is a belief that ecstasy will help you. If you want to be the best dancer on the dancefloor, the same goes."

A belief that mephedrone would usurp ecstasy has not been realised, according to the Lancaster study, which found evidence that the former "legal high", also called "meow", has supplemented, "rather than displaced, ecstasy use among ecstasy users".

Ecstasy is traditionally manufactured in the Netherlands, but there is emerging evidence that Chinese chemists are stepping up their production of the high-strength version of the drug and are exporting it direct to the UK.

Some of the ecstasy now being sold in the UK contains the same amount of MDMA as the premium strength pills sold at the height of the rave scene 20 years ago.

Anecdotal evidence suggests that the powder form of ecstasy is becoming increasingly popular on campuses. There are suggestions that younger users enjoy the ritual of taking a drug in powder form, associating it with cocaine. "There's a social element to it now," Measham said. "People will buy a bag and share it round, 'redosing' throughout the night. In the past, when it was just tablets, people would take it in the toilet and off they would go. It's now like cocaine in the 90s. People chop up lines and do it together. It's become a shared experience."

The increased MDMA levels found in ecstasy, a class A narcotic that, according to the drug advice service Frank, produces "an energy buzz that makes people feel alert, alive, in tune with their surroundings, and with sounds and colours often experienced as more intense" offers only one explanation for its resurgence in popularity.

Measham believes that, as ecstasy was the drug of choice on the club scene for 10 to 15 years, the emergence of the powder version has given it new cachet, as "each generation of young people want to make its own mark on the world".

But the emergence of ecstasy in powder form has also seen the drug attract new types of user. Measham and her team noted: "MDMA powder/crystal potentially offers increased profit margins for suppliers, as well as – for adult users of recreational drugs – an apparently 'premium' product with which to distinguish themselves from teenage 'pillheads'."

According to Frank, short-term risks associated with ecstasy can include a feeling of anxiety, paranoia or even psychosis. Its effects take about half an hour to kick in and tend to last between three and six hours, followed by a gradual comedown.

"The interesting issue is how this will affect the night-time economy," Measham said. "How will it change the atmosphere in clubs where currently it's all about cocaine and drinking?

"When ecstasy first came on to the rave scene there was a lot of hugging and affection, but that's not cool now in clubs. Are we going to see another summer of love?"

CASE STUDY: 'It is so popular because it works. There's a reason it's called ecstasy' – Simon, 26

I have taken ecstasy many times, starting at the age of about 18. I used to do it a lot, as times were free and easy then. I take it a lot less these days - as there simply isn't the time or the money. I think I've done MDMA once this year.

I used to take ecstasy mainly as pills or tablets. However, after a bad experience with a pill, I trust them less these days and try to find the drug in its pure form. I must say that was the only bad experience I have ever had with the drug. I felt horrible, having pins and needles all over my body and vomiting - I felt like I was about to collapse. Clearly this was a "bad pill". I bought it in a club - a stupid thing to do which I have never repeated.

MDMA, the proper name for the drug, comes mainly as crystals - this is what I prefer to do, as I can recognise the look and taste of it. But it is a lot more expensive, costing around £50 a gram. Pills you can find for about £3 to £5 each.

You can mix it with alcohol - I often do. You can do it with other drugs as well.

MDMA has been a drug I have known to be in this country for decades now. The reason it is so popular is that it works. There is a reason it's called ecstasy. I know lots of people who have done it, do still do, and do it perfectly safely.

I'm from a middle-class background, but I know of people from all social backgrounds who have done and do ecstasy.

It's quite an inclusive drug, bringing people together.
 
mephedrone did introduce A LOT of people into drugs who might have stayed out of drug use, and it has opened the flood gates........ an out come of this may be a heroin epidemic, such as we had in the 80's then 90's.....
 
^If the gateway drug argument wasn't total bullshit you might be onto something... And also if the streets were flooded with cheap smack, and everyone was naive to the dangers of it, like in the 80s too. I think we are much more likely to have a benzocaine mixed with shitty phet epidemic to be honest.
 
was at a party last nite and plenty of pills about.

malcom Xs

blue lacostes

red power buttons

white mercs.

today i picked up a pink heart shaped pill with LOVE imprinted.tested black with marquis.
 
no im not saying meph users will become H users..... im justing saying I can see an uptake.

im aware at the moment there is a decrease.....
 
mephedrone did introduce A LOT of people into drugs who might have stayed out of drug use

this is true, i know of many straight edged people who wouldnt usually go near drugs (although hypocritially they were alcohol drinkers,) ending up getting into meph back in 09
 
Blue Rock Stars in Bristol at the moment. They are worth the money. Not strongest dose ever but proper MDMA euphoria and very clean. =D
 
Just found another drug testing website, wish we had some of these in the UK, this is a german one I think its funny to see some of the pills that never make it to our country though.

Octobers results and a few others.

http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/data/_static/news/warnings/ChEck iT!_Warnungen_111001.pdf
http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/data/_static/news/warnings/ChEck iT!_Warnungen_110910.pdf
http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/data/_static/news/warnings/ChEck iT!_Warnungen_111105.pdf

58mg diamond there think its light yellow?
 
ive just realized that no matter how amazingly spangled i am on MDMA, i hardly ever gurn of jaw clench/grind. used to jaw grind and clench like crazy on Mephedrone. perhaps mephedrone has fucked up MDMA for me or something. plus i seem to reach a similar state of euphoria and stimulation on MDMA. suppose lack of jaw action is a good thing =D
 
@ dee_dee at times you talk some sense, and at other times it seems like your just completley out of your mind and cant take you seriousley, it was only a few months ago wasnt it that I was the main suspect in some sort of "plot" and you were sending me wierd PM's saying "I know what your up to".. what ever came of that anyway.

Why not just explain what youve got to say instead of going all wierd on us, i dont undestand it
 
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