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Regional Pill/MDMA Discussion: A New Hope?

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if you do some of them may magically disappear ;)
 
I got to 27,000 + by posting spam, have the rules changed?

I would <3 some good pills but it's all meph, meph, meph round here being sold for £1.50 a dose.
 
2 Facebooks gave me a much better night than 2gs of meph would
 
2 Facebooks gave me a much better night than 2gs of meph would
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Apparently the meph is being cut to shit round here and you need about a G to get a dunt.
 
Buy meph online and stock up if its your thing

Much cheaper and better quality

Had a heavy weekend on it.Hope to not do it again.better thn BZP but still not quite Great

But MDMA,proper beans still arent in Dublin!
 
Man i would love to be heading up to garnier im dublin but i have to work :( ah well memories of dave clarke will have to do until i go on the lash sunday and maybe mauro picotto on monday if i can be arsed!
 
So guys the question is, how come it's started up again, have new routes to synthesis been found? Have some CHinese that weren't arrested been offered enough money by criminal gangs to risk starting exporting MDP2P again? Has there been another safrole harvest in SE Asia that has got through to the chemists rather than been busted? Have smaller scale labs set up shop making smaller batches with smaller amounts of precursor? I'm assuming any batch of pills that comes out, gets on PR and then lasts a few weeks/months like FB, Pumas, Green Rolexes, must be in the 10's of millions to make much of an impression on the market.
 
BeefaMad said:
So guys the question is, how come it's started up again, have new routes to synthesis been found? Have some CHinese that weren't arrested been offered enough money by criminal gangs to risk starting exporting MDP2P again? Has there been another safrole harvest in SE Asia that has got through to the chemists rather than been busted? Have smaller scale labs set up shop making smaller batches with smaller amounts of precursor? I'm assuming any batch of pills that comes out, gets on PR and then lasts a few weeks/months like FB, Pumas, Green Rolexes, must be in the 10's of millions to make much of an impression on the market.
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The problem in my opinion never was anything to do with synth routes or precursors in general. There has been quite a few well known and practised routes for ages. Also obviously as nowhere else in EU has a drought I think that theory is no good. Since before the drought there has been several possible precursors. Also Safrole is distiled in other parts the world not just Asia and it's used for legit purposes too. Also anyone can buy sassefrass root. Which is what safrole comes from generally. There is no shortage I can assure you.

I think maybe the UK just only had one regular supplier and maybe that gang just had to stop, got busted or shutdown for whatever reason or maybe they lost their source of saf or whatever they were using.

I don't think there is any conspiracy or general issue. More people should just learn how to make MD like growing weed is not that hard really.
 
adam phinel said:
The problem in my opinion never was anything to do with synth routes or precursors in general. There has been quite a few well known and practised routes for ages. Also obviously as nowhere else in EU has a drought I think that theory is no good.
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Not sure I completely agree with that as even The Netherlands was flooded with pips and duds for a while, so I do believe there originally has to have been a critical Europe-wide precursor supply, manufacture or distribution chain snafu at the root of the issue, even though as you said, producers do have multiple fallback options for synthesis.

I think the situation in the UK has been exacerbated by the fact that the majority of UK users are clueless fucking idiots and are quite happy to bosh down pips and meph 'cause they're cheap, so the recovery is taking much longer here. I think, using NL as an example again, that the Dutch market is much more discerning and with their free testing centres, far less susceptible to the influx of legal highs and RCs we've seen here in the absence of anything real.
 
loads of people offering 'badboy oldskool crystal' etc at BLOC, and its still here in Leeds, happy days %)

in fact there was pretty much everything at BLOC, quite a lot of 2CI crystal going about, cheap I thought (£30 for half a g, good stuff as well..)
 
there certainly was a drought in europe for a while... there was never a stage where it was as bad as here in the likes of NL, but in many Eastern European countries they still aren't seeing any MDMA and are mostly being flooded with RC's. In NL it was a case of 50% chance what your buying might be fake. I hear it's much better lately tho :)
 
captain codshit said:
there certainly was a drought in europe for a while... there was never a stage where it was as bad as here in the likes of NL, but in many Eastern European countries they still aren't seeing any MDMA and are mostly being flooded with RC's. In NL it was a case of 50% chance what your buying might be fake. I hear it's much better lately tho :)
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It is just fine here, of course even during the drought there was plenty of good stuff around.:)
 
That's great to hear, I'm over in April for a certain _massive_ trance party ;)

Was over last March too but between our group we only managed to score three separate kinds of pips, no MDMA in sight. Massive letdown after the ~150mg triangle blue Mitzis we got in 08.

Hoping this year will be a return to form. I've got a couple of contacts in A'dam, so you reckon our chances are favourable now?
 
Was in the dam a few weeks back and picked up the best and cheapest crystal i've ever had. It was heaven and so cheap I nearly wet myself when I heard the price. A 5g rock. Id be wise about buying of street dealers tho, can be quite dodgy and you'll be ripped off 90% of the time.
 
^My last post was deleted I think because of the questions I asked you so hopefully it's OK for me to ask, was it by luck you stumbled across the good stuff in the dam?
 
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loveedovee said:
Thanks mate although what does 'I think I've come to terms with the fact that myoclonus isn't necessarily pathological; it's also a symptom of anxiety and can be aggravated by MDMA' mean??

I do suffer from anxiety anyways..

Thanks again
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Myoclonus is an involuntary "twitch" in the upper body which is a type of seizure (signals firing off in the brain that shouldn't be). In that sense it's related to the "partial seizure" idea that you were talking about (which I've experienced before too), where you feel like your head is being forced back.

One of the symptoms of amphetamine abuse is tremor/twitching/involuntary muscle contractions which are caused by these rogue signals. They're also symptoms of anxiety, and amphetamines can be responsible for increasing anxiety which in turn increases the twitching; it's a bit of a 'chicken and egg' scenario!

I'm only making a guess that the twitching is related to the partial seizure, because it would seem to make sense in my (very limited) understanding of neurology.

If a symptom is pathological it means that it's a result of a condition of some sort, so pathological myoclonus indicates an underlying neurological disorder. If it isn't pathological, it indicates another cause, such as anxiety, which is a psychiatric/psychological disorder.
Anxiety is horrible mate I hope you figure that one out ASAP!
 
incase you's dnt know already, there is a dud batch of green rolex's going about. so test any you come across to make sure its not the pip batch
 
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