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Regional Pill Discussion: North East v3

Just skimming through. Heroin in a pill would be utterly pointless and an expensive additive for no apparent reason. Its a myth.

So are double/triple/whatever stacks. The mdxx content of a pill is what matters and being "double stack" doesn't necessarily mean it will be any better than a regular pill. Just some half assed street marketing so don't fall for it.
 
Johnny blue said:
Just skimming through. Heroin in a pill would be utterly pointless and an expensive additive for no apparent reason. Its a myth.

So are double/triple/whatever stacks. The mdxx content of a pill is what matters and being "double stack" doesn't necessarily mean it will be any better than a regular pill. Just some half assed street marketing so don't fall for it.
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I'm not about to derail this thread just to prove your wrong. PM me if you'd like to start spreading the truth, instead.
 
Johnny blue said:
Just skimming through. Heroin in a pill would be utterly pointless and an expensive additive for no apparent reason. Its a myth.

So are double/triple/whatever stacks. The mdxx content of a pill is what matters and being "double stack" doesn't necessarily mean it will be any better than a regular pill. Just some half assed street marketing so don't fall for it.
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This. I've always wondered how anyone could believe that someone would actually put a drug into a roll that doesn't really absorb through the stomach (like heroin), unless you don't know much about the BA of dope.

I was under the impression that at one point the terms double and triple stack had a meaning, and by "at one point" I mean decades ago, but that it kind of just fell into being a marketing term now. Certainly I've never noticed any consistent difference between "double stacks" and regular pills in terms of strength. I could be wrong though and maybe those terms never meant much at all.
 
I remember back 10 years ago people used to say double stacks and shit like that but, even then they were nothing special. There were plenty of way better pills that weren't labelled double stack. Its just a label and I just think its ridiculous that people believe shit passed down from dealer to dealer. You don't have to believe me TearItDown its your money.
 
Johnny blue said:
Just skimming through. Heroin in a pill would be utterly pointless and an expensive additive for no apparent reason. Its a myth.

So are double/triple/whatever stacks. The mdxx content of a pill is what matters and being "double stack" doesn't necessarily mean it will be any better than a regular pill. Just some half assed street marketing so don't fall for it.
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This is the truth, thanks for saving me the time of posting the exact same thing.
TearItDown said:
I'm not about to derail this thread just to prove your wrong. PM me if you'd like to start spreading the truth, instead.
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care to enlighten us all?
 
ima say hes got a dea microgram somewhere when they found 1 small batch of rolls cut with a tiny amount of dope. but please i want tearitdown to enlighten all of us of this.
 
Johnny blue said:
I remember back 10 years ago people used to say double stacks and shit like that but, even then they were nothing special. There were plenty of way better pills that weren't labelled double stack. Its just a label and I just think its ridiculous that people believe shit passed down from dealer to dealer. You don't have to believe me TearItDown its your money.
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Oh, I was thinking even farther back than just 10 years ago. I was thinking like when MDMA first started to become a popular club drug, before the rave scene even really got started, like in the late 80s or something. Even 10 years ago I'm sure double stacks was just a marketing term. Ultimately none of those terms mean anything because its not like most dealers will test the pills for you and give you an official report on the exact contents of them. Although that would be nice.
 
Both MDMA and heroin are fairly cheap to produce. Not everywhere, but from what I have gathered, the amount of heroin that would be put into rolls would cost less than to actually put all MDMA in the pill. Heroin rolls have been found from tests. It's very true as palli said that the BA of heroin is not that great, however I've come across very few people taking just one roll at a time. People picking up cheap rolls will often get several, and they take several as well (and thus ingesting enough heroin to make you feel the effects). While it is very unlikely that you ever come across an H cut roll, it is very possible and will usually result in higher profit margins for whoever is selling them.
 
TearItDown said:
Both MDMA and heroin are fairly cheap to produce. Not everywhere, but from what I have gathered, the amount of heroin that would be put into rolls would cost less than to actually put all MDMA in the pill. Heroin rolls have been found from tests. It's very true as palli said that the BA of heroin is not that great, however I've come across very few people taking just one roll at a time. People picking up cheap rolls will often get several, and they take several as well (and thus ingesting enough heroin to make you feel the effects). While it is very unlikely that you ever come across an H cut roll, it is very possible and will usually result in higher profit margins for whoever is selling them.
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Or the could cut it with a cheap inert whatever which would make a lot more sense to anyone profit wise. There probably has been heroin in rolls. There probably has been just about anything in rolls. A regular filler is just factually cheaper than heroin. Considering dose and the BA at that MOA it makes no sense to substitute a regular filler for an expensive drug that would add nothing to the experience. The point is just because your pill has brown spots on it doesn't mean its cut with heroin. Its just as likely that the "heroin ecstasy" tabs are just anti drug propaganda. You must understand that this rumor is almost as old as ecstasy itself and has become a joke to a point. Every time there are a new uninformed group of etards this one surfaces which is why so many of us are telling you its bullshit.

Even if it were heroin (which its not) you'd have to eat so many something else in the pill would kill ya long before the heroin. 99.99999% of pills do not have heroin in them in fact I'd say you'd have a better chance of these " OMG brown speckles" to be shit because its free.

It really is funny that this one still comes up. 10 years ago when I was 18 I heard the same rumors and people would be "addicted" because the beige supermans had heroin in em so you'd get hooked and have to have em. Its a myth and a ridiculous one at that. It always has been. No matter what anyone says 20 years from now some kid that has probably never seen heroin will see a brown speck and jump to the same crazy conclusion. Without even checking I'd be willing to bet anything that heroin has never caused any ecstasy related death or injury and until that happens this "OMG heroin rolls" thing will remain ridiculous and a myth.
 
thechamp1685 said:
um.........im pretty sure that dopey feelin would be K ..........bra
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that dopey feeling is MDMA.

have you guys had mdma?

TearItDown said:
Both MDMA and heroin are fairly cheap to produce. Not everywhere, but from what I have gathered, the amount of heroin that would be put into rolls would cost less than to actually put all MDMA in the pill. Heroin rolls have been found from tests. It's very true as palli said that the BA of heroin is not that great, however I've come across very few people taking just one roll at a time. People picking up cheap rolls will often get several, and they take several as well (and thus ingesting enough heroin to make you feel the effects). While it is very unlikely that you ever come across an H cut roll, it is very possible and will usually result in higher profit margins for whoever is selling them.
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your claim is unsubstantiated and sounds like bullshit.

there has been 1 pill that has tested positive for heroin on ecstasydata in the 90's or early 2000's and it looked fake. like a really shit press and everything.

And it still doesnt make sense to put dope in "cheap rolls" as you said.
 
Lots of shitty molly going around the North East. I don't know what this stuff is but I keep running into"molly that's clumpy and almost wet looking. Its usually pretty damn bitter, but nowhere near what true mdma tastes like. Its usually pure white, and other times amber/dark amber. Sometimes its really sticky, and sometime it will clump easy. After testing from 2 of 8 sources I've run across in the past 4 months it I've come to the conclusion a lot of it is RCs. Maybe meph/methylon? I'm picking up a test kit tomorrow. I'm tired of this bullshit. I got piped this past weekend at a festival which ruined the night for me.
 
i have the same idea of stacks as pallidamors. i am suer at one point, maybe the early 90's, there were actually "double stack" pills that were super strong. i know ive seen old pics of pills that are proper double/triple stacks, if you say that 1 e is abotu the size of an aspirin generally.
 
Johnny blue said:
Or the could cut it with a cheap inert whatever which would make a lot more sense to anyone profit wise. There probably has been heroin in rolls. There probably has been just about anything in rolls. A regular filler is just factually cheaper than heroin. Considering dose and the BA at that MOA it makes no sense to substitute a regular filler for an expensive drug that would add nothing to the experience. The point is just because your pill has brown spots on it doesn't mean its cut with heroin. Its just as likely that the "heroin ecstasy" tabs are just anti drug propaganda. You must understand that this rumor is almost as old as ecstasy itself and has become a joke to a point. Every time there are a new uninformed group of etards this one surfaces which is why so many of us are telling you its bullshit.

Even if it were heroin (which its not) you'd have to eat so many something else in the pill would kill ya long before the heroin. 99.99999% of pills do not have heroin in them in fact I'd say you'd have a better chance of these " OMG brown speckles" to be shit because its free.

It really is funny that this one still comes up. 10 years ago when I was 18 I heard the same rumors and people would be "addicted" because the beige supermans had heroin in em so you'd get hooked and have to have em. Its a myth and a ridiculous one at that. It always has been. No matter what anyone says 20 years from now some kid that has probably never seen heroin will see a brown speck and jump to the same crazy conclusion. Without even checking I'd be willing to bet anything that heroin has never caused any ecstasy related death or injury and until that happens this "OMG heroin rolls" thing will remain ridiculous and a myth.
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A lot of what you're saying has no relation to anything I've said. All I said were things that are KNOWN. Many people think that H rolls are just a myth, and maybe they are today, but there are still thousands upon thousands of roll that never get tested. There are documented H cut rolls. I never said anyone has ever died or gotten injured because of H rolls. Get off your high horse of shoving bullshit down my throat about shit I never even said. Stop ranting and just look at facts.

Delsyd said:
that dopey feeling is MDMA.

have you guys had mdma?


your claim is unsubstantiated and sounds like bullshit.

there has been 1 pill that has tested positive for heroin on ecstasydata in the 90's or early 2000's and it looked fake. like a really shit press and everything.

And it still doesnt make sense to put dope in "cheap rolls" as you said.
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How doesn't it make sense? More money is MORE MONEY. I'm sorry, but no successful drug dealers get anywhere by being nice to everyone.
 
you make more money by putting inactive cuts or something like caffiene which is easily available, cheap and has some synergy with MDMA.

Heroin is more expensive than MDMA gram for gram.
It makes no sense for the producer.

You claim is still just YOUR claim. You havent put up any proof that would show otherwise or even given any plausible reason to do so.
 
TearItDown said:
A lot of what you're saying has no relation to anything I've said. All I said were things that are KNOWN. Many people think that H rolls are just a myth, and maybe they are today, but there are still thousands upon thousands of roll that never get tested. There are documented H cut rolls. I never said anyone has ever died or gotten injured because of H rolls. Get off your high horse of shoving bullshit down my throat about shit I never even said. Stop ranting and just look at facts.



How doesn't it make sense? More money is MORE MONEY. I'm sorry, but no successful drug dealers get anywhere by being nice to everyone.
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What facts dude? Show em and calm down. Where are these documented H cut rolls? Let's see the documents? You say facts, well how about some? Where are you getting any of your information from? You're so passionate about proving this and you say there are documented heroin cut rolls well than let's see some proof. You must have seen em because you have all the facts and I'm cramming bs down your throat so let's just cut to the chase and be out with your source.
 
yes, because mr. suburban american can grow enough poppy to get enough morphine to acetylate into heroin in his basement!
no.
MDMA might not be cheaper to make PER SE, because smack is made by poor ass farmers doing slight bits of chemistry (am i right in that morphine-->heroin isnt advanced chem?). smack has to be imported, whereas MD can be made anywhere.
 
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