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Word Ruct!!! Yours is the most compelling case for legalized or medicalized heroin I've heard in a long time. I'm glad you educated your doc.%)

I should of been more specific in my post about meth...... (I was abbreviating methadone).
Funnily enough the thought of crystal did cross my mind as I typed it. But this being EADD I assumed no Americans would read it, lol.

I've always struggled with the theme of N.A meetings cause I'm an atheist, but they have their place and they have undoubtedly helped me in the past.
To the point of flushing my last bit of dope.

It's a strange magic that happens in those rooms.
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Sorry Cornishman, I should know by now what Meth means on your side of the pond. Yea, I'm like the token American. I'm ashamed to say the conversations I have with my transatlantic cousins are more stimulating in general than those of my countrymen.

I know what you mean about that magic. Besides for me its all about spirituality which I define as the way I treat myself and others. I think that transcends a belief in or concept of God or whatever chemicals are coursing through peoples veins. Though I might be challenging 12 step orthodoxy I've known ritcheous, productive people using opiates and known people that were clean, sober, or whatever you want to call it that became complete and total dicks when they stoped using. So it depends in my experience.

Strung: Whaaaatsuuup Amigo? Have a good relaxing night!!! You make my case.
 
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eireann said:
this thread is for heroin discussion so i feel quite welcome,thank you very much.
anyone who takes offence to my anti-heroin stance. are equally offending me with their glorification of heroin.

it is irresponsible to advocate heroin to people who come on to this thread looking for help with their addiction,so steve you are either sick in the head or a steadfast addict to question my posts over previous examples. i do not require a response,thank you
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This thread is for Regional heroin discussion. It is to discuss the quality of heroin in your region.

If you want help with your addiction then you should visit the dark side forum. The folks there will only be too happy to help and support you and others in similar positions.

I really feel that since you are no longer a heroin user and have taken to demonising the drug you have nothing more to offer this thread (going by your recent posts).
 
Hey Trypt howz it going? I agree with you. I going to post this about NA and put the subject to rest because it is the wrong thread like tryptamine posted. Sorry, I just wanted to respond to you Ruct...I know a few atheists in the program, alot of agnostics, and a vast majority who believe in a secular view of a God of their understanding. The freedom to choose a higher power of your understanding- even if its just the group is inviolate. Probably 10% follow organized religion- the other 90% hate organized religion with a passion. So religion is anathema to NA and discussion of particular religions is strongly discouraged in meetings. Its all about supporting each other kinda like this thread during the dark days of the drought. Wish there was more progressive thought about harm reduction in meetings. Allowed to go to meetings high- I've been to hundreds and freely admitted it. Now I'm doing what I have to do above all not to drink.

Thats all I got to say about this subject outside the dark side.
 
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things are steady in dublin - the b is a lot better in quality lately but its still not back to the way it was - prices are coming down .2 is gone bk down to 20 quid - weight is hard to come by and can be risky on quality - things are a lot better then what they were this time last year but still a bit to go yet - good to see everyone still posting on here
 
Re: NA, AA, and CA, I can't add anything to what JSPUN said really. There is a point in the process where you are required to submit to a higher power, but the higher power is very subjective and doesn't have to be a god it can be the love of your friends or whatever. These groups are so successful because they help you to swap your dependence on a substance for a dependence on faith in others and faith in yourself.
Go with someone else if you are worried about bowling up on your own, it is very daunting at first so someone to hold your hand initially can help.
FYI I am not currently an attendee, but can see it being potentially lifesaving in the future. Right I'm off to score8)
 
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the normal one is ** pound a teenth and is ok-ish and the other one is proper just how gear should be, but its *** pound a teenth.It get cheeper buying 8ths and Qs but its fucking nice.
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They're pretty good prices there strungout (dont be surprised if the mods remove them) the range in between the 2 figures is what i used to pay pre drought. A couple of numbers in my phone offer weights at the same prices but the gear is terribly weak ive had a few this year and ive just stuck to the bags since which are still not amazingly strong but much better than the 8ths

@Jspun - im not from London obviously Backroll and Blondin (when he gets back with his sunburn, sorry, i mean suntan) will be able to paint a better picture. I wouldnt have thought that there would have been any disruption, Stratford town center probably wasnt the best place to be doing drug deals over the past month with the increased police presence and all of that but id otherwise say it was business than usual. Please dont take offense dude - im not second guessing your age but were you too young to mix it up when the games were in LA? I was lol in fact its was the first games that i remember watching i was barely alive during the previous lot in moscow
 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-19296254

A drug user has died in a Lancashire hospital after being infected with anthrax, the Health Protection Agency (HPA) has said.

The HPA said the person, who died in Blackpool, had injected drugs.

It added that it was aware of an ongoing outbreak of anthrax amongst people who inject drugs in a number of European countries.

NHS Blackpool said heroin, or a contaminated cutting agent mixed with it, was the likely source of infection.

It said the death had similarities to 19 cases in Scotland.
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Heads up.
 
Afternoon all:), small quantity prices are fine in EADD, bulk prices are not up to around a teenth for H is fine, strungout knows the the score.

Well it's a bright new day out there so it's a good time for a fresh start. It has been fairly obvious that the normal sociable, supporting and helpful vibration of this thread has been somewhat disturbed if late.

Posts by eireann and responses from several other posters have created enough disturbance that several people have found it necessary to raise formal concerns. The last time this happened I edited and removed some posts in an attempt to steer things back on track but this approach didn't go down well with all, a view I have some sympathy for and have taken on board.

The fact remains, however that this type of confrontational discussion upsets many posters, in my view more than are involved in the debate. Reviewing the recent posts I find that, in general they are consistent with a heated but relatively (in EADD terms;)) polite discussion and this is not something anyone would want to stiffle on Bluelight.

To that end can I ask on behalf of numerous people that these discussions be taken to the all new EADD - Heroin the great debate....please play nice:D
 
Hi ATM :) You must be sick of trying to come up with ways to keep everyone happy, but you have been very fair so far & thanks for that! Its crazy to think that this thread had podded along for about 2 years now with very few problems. I for one have found great support on this thread, i have made great friends & i have been able to open up to them & talk to them like i've never been able to talk to anyone else ever before. Heroin is a taboo subject, so there are very few people you can talk to about it & there are very few people who truly understand. But you'll always get the odd troll in threads & they should be totally ignored.

New threads about heroin are great, but the 2 new recent threads were only made to accommodate a troll to spread their hate. I have noticed a lot less people posting on this thread lately, its a shame to see hate on this thread instead of the normal support that this thread has always had.

My best advice to people is to block any future trolls, as Brimz say 'Don't feed the troll!' Or at the very least just ignore the troll, don't react to any post by any troll. That way the troll only has him/her self to talk to.

This thread has always been about Regional Heroin Discussion, as in what kind of heroin is available in what area, but things were always relaxed, if someone wanted to share a problem on here or talk about their addiction they could. Now its all changing, i suppose good things always change. But is hard to know what you can & can't post on this thread any-more. Some people feel that they can't open up & talk in-case suddenly they'll be told that this thread is not for that kind of discussion, it get confusing. I find that a lot of us are just talking through PM's lately. PM's are great, but the great thing about a thread is that you get to talk to a few of your mates at the same time.

Mod's all i'll say is fair play to yous!!! :) This is only one thread on EADD, its must get really tiring dealing with this kind of thing. 8( Hopefully things will go back to normal as long as people totally block or ignore any future trolls! Lets bring back the fun & support that this tread always had! =D

Right, i'm off to the clinic & fingers crossed i pass my drugs test! & then i'm off to score for the first time in 10 days!!! YAY!!! Later gators!! :)

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PS. The heroin social thread was a great idea, but i think everyone is just very attached to this thread because its been running a long time, lots of memories on this thread......
 
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jspun google russell brands drug addiction documentery,its quite funny and will give you an insight in to the european addict life,it only aired last light it was a great doc,it explains heroin and alcohol addiction to a tee including brain chemistry etc,i got that natural high that i get from na by watching it so i imaging you would too.great...great show
 
I'm too scared to reply in this thread now, lol.

I'll just say in response to ructs that the N.A meetings definitely help. Even if you're atheist.

It's just refreshing to be amongst other addicts in a positive environment.
 
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Hi all,
Thanks for those who wished me weel on my travels - Ructs, JSpun, Max Brimzy etc, alas I aint gone yet, Im flying monday!

Forgot to say before how good it is to see you back JSPUN youve been missed u were always our favourite yanky poster, and we all missed your overly long yet highly informative and interesting posts ;) Glad ur ok now

My holiday wont be an opiate based as Ill be with the mrs. Shes been in Oz so we're meeting in Bangkok, I land about 4 hours before she, long enough to ruin the rest of my life potentially, so I will be sensible and wont be looking to score (in either sense), tempting as it would be cos I would love to sample some Burmese number 4 and imaging it could be found fairly easily tho I also imagine it would be fairly easy to get caught doing so, which aint worth the risk. Apparently the only good thing about Thai prisons is the fact they are Bhuddist and totally anti-homosexuality, therefore theres no chance of getting raped, which is the main reason any man fears going to prison. Well me anyway. They give the inmates pigs every so often to quench their lust. I'm all for animal rights but if I was in a hot sweaty thai prison in severe methadone withdrawal wishing I was dead I cant think of anything possibly worse while clucking (or not while clucking for that matter) than that so long live the pigs! Anyway enough of that

I mentioned before that I was about to score and so I did. Unfortunately I lost patience waiting for the guy with the good stuff and went with the other guy, who had had mediocre stuff but had a new batch I'd been told was good. Anyway it wasnt really, nothing like the other one. I dont get this stuff Ive had it a few times so heres the descrip;
soft powder, light to mid brown, smells nicely of gear, very slight cut of salt (yeah salt!) which burns off after the first line. Colour on the jimmy is an amber brown. Tastes fairly bitter and leaves a oily going into a dry residue on the tooter, never a good sign IMO. Weird stuff because as you're smoking it it doesnt feel great, you dont get that instant feeling that its good B. But its a 'creeper' - your practically guaranteed a gouch off it but not for about half an hour after you've smoked it, which is fucking weird. But its held me really well when Ive stopped taking methadone with it, for a good 8 hours after smoking a point 4, unusual for me. The gouch is more like a sleep than a blissfull nod aswell. So yeah its a weird one and disappointing after the last one I had which was beautiful, best Ive had for ages. I finished the last of my Q earlier today so I got a couple days to sort shit out before flying to Thai on monday.

Can relate to what Steve Sircull was saying the other day about working then getting home and doing fuck all when using. As the mrs has been away the last week has been just that for me, fininsh work, get homw with good intentions yet smoke myself silly and spend the entire fuckin night on the sofa watching TV or music and gouching the fuck out punctuated by the odd takeaway meal, ciggarette, and drink! Im definitely a better gear head when the mrs is about and I have to be productive.

On another note I watched that Russel Brand docu last night to but I thought it wasnt good, he actually pissed me off cos of his dismissal of substitution treatment. For me methdone basically saved me, I wont slag it off. I know many of us on here hate being on the old liquid handcuffs but I do get a bit annoyed by people who go on about how shite it is, yet if it werent available, like in Russia, where would you be? I do however obviously think that prescribed heroin would be better, for me and many other. Something Russel refused to touch on, which is why I thought the documentary sucked. Also if his idea of treatment is so perfect how come the girl that received said treatment walked after a couple weeks? That werent touched on. Anyway thats me for now, I gotta shoot and get me haircut now and do all the productive things I shoulda been doing over the last week, in the next 2 days b4 i go.

Wish me luck folks sure Ill be ok in Thailand like I said I now have all the relevent legal paperwork to carry 710mls of methadone into and around the country, so I should at least avoid the death penalty on that front!

Peace :)
 
eireann said:
jspun google russell brands drug addiction documentery,its quite funny and will give you an insight in to the european addict life,it only aired last light it was a great doc,it explains heroin and alcohol addiction to a tee including brain chemistry etc,i got that natural high that i get from na by watching it so i imaging you would too.great...great show
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i watched this with great interest. i hate the whole , addiction is a disease concept. trying telling that to a cancer patient with a straight face.

i think, regardless of background, anyone who continually takes heroin is going to wind up an addict (unlike say, someone who smokes weed "all the time" but can suddenly stop). whilst i have things in my past yadda yadda, the main reason i use now is just to be fucking high! to control so precisely what you're going to be feeling is great. who wouldn't want that, sane or fucked up? due to therapy i'm in the best position i've been mentally for the last 7 years and also my gear use is as high as it's been in the last year because everything from scoring the bag to pushing the plunger feels fucking amazing.

how to get people to stop? that is the question. firstly, most people in their heart of hearts don't want to stop. they want to continue getting high forever under they're bored of it or die. so it's damage limitation. follow sweden and provide free diamorphine. accept that once on the train, there's not much getting off. give me this for a few months and i'd be sick of it all. in the doc they talking about methadone being like insulin to a diabetic, but really, heroin is insulin for a heroin addict. i also imagine the doc would be confusing for those who don't know what methadone is used for. it also didn't mention suboxone. i'm not past the point of disappointing head shakes at my local clinc because of my age

for me personally, what would be most likely to quit would be prescribed diamorphine, dose rising until i'm just sick of it and then taper and that's it. you've gone as far as you can in as safe an environment as you can, you're still alive.

the psychological shit people need to sort out can be done without being high, he was right on that and that if you want to quit, abstinance is the only way, and is probably more effective without being on anything. i've been through many psychs and the most recent was most effective despite my use although i was never high at the sessions, except once, getting deeper in it just becomes so obvious when i'm on which is fucking annoying.

sorry for the shittyness of this post i r drunk n benzo'd. peace.

"a dope fiend knows how they're gonna feel from one moment to the next, all ya gotta do is look at the labels[powder] on the little bottles[bags]"
 
people firstly you dont need to a substitute drug,i can never get over heroin addicts thinking they deserve it on scripts,what do alcoholics and coke heads do? this is the problem with heroin it affects the thought process with out the addict even knowing it.

but yeah know one in their heart of hearts really wants to get off it,the thought of seriously getting off heroin when you are addicted is the hardest most terrifying thing you could imaging. quitting does nothing but install utter fear but at least when you get over it,you can eat sleep and go outside with out a fix of gear first.
 
There you go, the trouble with users is they don't think smart like wot Eireann does! Only dopes heed atm and take it elsewhere, ok? Do-not-feed-the-trolls and keep on with the great posts prior to his whitterings,
 
Well my scoring didn't go so well after all to-day! :( I normally score my gear in South Dublin, but i decided to try a new guy closer to home in North Dublin, the D7 area. Because i was scoring off someone new i decided to just get 2 small bags to start with & if his gear was good then i was gonna go back for more. The bloke was dead sound, he didn't keep me waiting at all & then he gave me 3 bags for the price of 2, but straight away it worried me that he was giving me one bag free coz the good batch of gear is more expensive, but i thought that maybe he is being nice to me coz i'm a new customer.

So my BF & i got home & had a smoke & it was dreaded drought gear! :( It wasn't the very worst drought gear, but it was still bad enough. It tasted very weak, it had barely any taste off it at all & it didn't get me stoned! The guy i got it off had said that his gear was really nice stuff, but he doesn't use himself so he was probably just guessing! He did say that his customers all thought that his gear was top notch 8( but he was either just talking BS or else there must be still people around who are happy with weak gear, i can't believe that people would still keep buying that drought gear when there is much better gear around! But it wasn't good so i didn't go back for more. Its such a pity coz the guy lived near me & when i rang him he met me straight away, he was a dead nice guy! But there always has to be a catch!!! What is wrong with the North Dublin? I'm sure that there is good gear around the North side somewhere, but the stuff i got in D7 was weak!

So i'm hoping to get an 8th tomorrow, i heard from a few people that there is a bit of a shortage of the decent gear at the moment, but i was talking to my good mate who knows where to get weight, so hopefully he'll be able to sort me an 8th for tomorrow!!! YAY!!! :) It was awful getting drought gear to-day! It reminded me just how bad things were! Thank god that i only got a small amount!!! Phew!!!
 
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