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Regional Heroin Discussion v15

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ha, I had forgotten that other fantasy you were spinning on here! Coz you're not using, you think about it all the time, and post on here all the time you are now a bitter twisted fuck. heroin fucked you in the ass didn't it? Get back on it or get off here
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blondin you are fooling know one except urself,now get back on topic if you would,my schizophrenic friend. thank you
 
Whats with all the trolling on this page these days ? Never used to be like this on here !

New gear down here at the moment, fairly lumpy yellowy brown powder which turns a very dark brown/almost black on the foil, it's not bad ! Certainly a step in the right direction ! Elsewhere it's a darkish lump of what mainly appears to be mannitol....
 
EZ bignasty. I live in a very small village and alot of the locals know about my bad habits - only two weeks ago i had 2 lads taking the piss out of me over my heroin use in the local shop (they took the piss in the shop, i dont use drugs in there ;) ). They're only fairly young and they're pretty unpleasant creatures anyway, spending the majority of their time in the local pub drinking and taking coke and trying to pick fights. As embarrasing as it is not really an issue though as i rarely socialise locally, sticks and stones and all of that and none of them even work.

Are you on a regular subutex prescription mate? Ive never accepted any prescriptions for opioids as I really dont think id benefit from them - ive been through enough cold turkeys and subsequent relapses to realise that my psycholgical need for heroin will always outweigh the physical. I've never been keen on the idea of methadone as id only use on top anyway and it would permanise my physical dependency and although subutex seems like a more sensible option id only end up misusing my prescription, id probably be constantly coming off them due to their antagonistic properties

Yeah few bad vibes on here again of recent, eireann you sound like your on the wagon at the moment, if you are just trolling then fair enough, whatever floats your boat and all of that but otherwise id say if your not using then this really isnt the healthiest forum to be participating in
 
Laos and Cambodia are classic drug tourist destinations. Bolivia has coke bars if thats your kind of thing. Now about 50 Km from my house is Tijuana. Despite the huge military presence on the street that is reminiscent of Northern Ireland in the 80s, the place is a HUGE collection of open air drug markets and smaller spots. Restaurants, gas stations, repair shops, are all potential fronts for the drug trade. I've heard stories of pharmacies selling oxycontin, hydromorphone, xanax, seroids, ect...out the front and heroin, ect...out the back- security provided by corrupt police. Drugs readily available are heroin, cocaine, meth, cannabis, and to a lesser extent PCP. I'm sure crack is around too. Ketamine used to be readily available from "animal pharmacies". However, Mexico is not the safest place these days. I think more people have died in the drug war than from sectarian and other kind of violence in Iraq and Afganistan combined if I'm not mistaken- 48,000 in about 3-4 years. Still thousands of Cavacho/ Peckerwood dopefiends (ie white Americans) cross the border or live down there each day.

Not that you can't find dope up here. Drugs flow north of the border and guns are shipped south of the border. Operation fast and furious American asinine, malicious, botched diplomacy at its finest. In this brilliant operation by one of our Federal LEO agencies- "straw buyers in the employ of the United States bought 2,000 firearms- mostly assualt rifles- lost track of most of them which ended up in crime scenes on both sides of the border. The rationale was to identify the Cartel main members even though any 6 year old in mexico can tell you who they are and were they live. I believe it was Hillary Clintons brainchild to destabalize the Calderone regieme- he comited the Cardinal sin of not taking orders from Washington.

TJ also has legal prostitution were prostitutes will bring you a pipe filled with schards and light it for you as a prelude to getting down. Fireworks, switch blades, Donkey shows, Absithe before it was legalized up north, Cuban cigars, and all other manner of contriband that isn't legal up north is legally openly sold in Mexico. Many restaurants have items on there menu like blue fin tuna and Abalone that are on the endagered species list in California. TJ also has an Ibogaine clinic

The US has its fair share of drug tourism. Florida has its "Pill Mills". California has "medical MJ". My father in law has really good weed delivered to him by girls that look like models but dress like strippers- legal under CA state law. If CA is a destination for cannabis tourists then Washington State and Orgeon are destinations for "death tourists." Euthansia is legal in those states and seconal and pentobarbital are Rxed to make your trip into the after world smoother. If I could only fake a terminal condition haha.

Eireann if you are staying clean I wish you the best of luck and would suggest the dark side. Please keep the trolling and personal attacks to a minimum. Or if you continue on this course maybe you should change your user name to Ian Paisley.
 
correct steve but the odd time there can be people who are trying to tackle their addiction,which i find inspirational.
and you are also correct about the mental side of heroin being harder than the physical side of the addiction.
but thats no reason for defeatism.

this thread is for heroin discussion so i feel quite welcome,thank you very much.
anyone who takes offence to my anti-heroin stance. are equally offending me with their glorification of heroin.

it is irresponsible to advocate heroin to people who come on to this thread looking for help with their addiction,so steve you are either sick in the head or a steadfast addict to question my posts over previous examples. i do not require a response,thank you
 
they have cornish the likes of blondin often attacked and described his nod to a tee to people who came on here for advice.
and well done for getting off the stuff,keep it up.
 
eireann said:
correct steve but the odd time there can be people who are trying to tackle their addiction,which i find inspirational.
and you are also correct about the mental side of heroin being harder than the physical side of the addiction.
but thats no reason for defeatism.

this thread is for heroin discussion so i feel quite welcome,thank you very much.
anyone who takes offence to my anti-heroin stance. are equally offending me with their glorification of heroin.

it is irresponsible to advocate heroin to people who come on to this thread looking for help with their addiction,so steve you are either sick in the head or a steadfast addict to question my posts over previous examples. i do not require a response,thank you
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Hehe im not taking the bait there dude, get blocked. What a cocksuck
 
Cornishman said:
Fwiw, I'm over 2 months clean from H (but not Meth).

I guess I enjoy the community and drugs in general.
+ I don't think anyone's glorified Heroin on here?

Most of the users & ex users I come across are pretty down to earth.
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Its pretty difficult to glorify heroin in any sense as ive come across very few regular users who havnt come to physical, psychological or spiritual harm through there use. But saying that its difficult to deny that the effects of heroin are really nice else no one would be on here in the first place. Ex users do have a very important role to play in this community as their experiences are invaluable to those of us still struggling to get some control. But for those who despite their better instincts still enjoy a fix, this forum is obviously a good resource with regards to reporting the quality of drugs and the subjective effects. I didnt contribute to this thread for the best part of 12 months during which i was not using - i would have found it extremely difficult to keep my mind off heroin while reading about batches of rocket going round in my local area and tales of folk waking up with pieces of tinfoil stuck to their heads, i only started posting on here again following my relapse. Well done CM, keep up the good work and please dont take offense at the fact that some of us have got some miles to cover before we catch up
 
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To be fair, my addiction is/was incomparable to alot of people's in this thread.

The amount of time and money I spent on cocaine over the years has given me 2nd thoughts with regards to 'studying' heroin.

All I know is, the stuff around here now just doesn't compare to the stuff that was going around 5+ years ago.

One of the reasons I started H was to save money.

Now it costs an arm and a leg and doesn't give any euphoria. It just seems to have a generic knock out effect and lacks longevity (2 grammes used to last a week for myself and take me to heaven whenever I used it).

And that was just smoking the stuff.
 
SteveSircull said:
EZ bignasty. I live in a very small village and alot of the locals know about my bad habits - only two weeks ago i had 2 lads taking the piss out of me over my heroin use in the local shop (they took the piss in the shop, i dont use drugs in there ;) ). They're only fairly young and they're pretty unpleasant creatures anyway, spending the majority of their time in the local pub drinking and taking coke and trying to pick fights. As embarrasing as it is not really an issue though as i rarely socialise locally, sticks and stones and all of that and none of them even work.
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Hi Steve! The cheek of those blokes! Easy known that they were young, young & gobby! Its amazing the the lengths that we sometimes go to to keep our heroin use secret!! While others (most often the same ones who give you grief for using gear!) are openly drinking & taking coke pills ect, their attitude makes me sick! I tell you Steve you certainly don't look like a heroin user! You really are the image of Ewan McGregor, those little shit-heads in the shop are probably just jealous of you cause you look better then them & your more successful in your working life then them, ignore them & they'll go away! Its the only way to deal with that sort of eejit! There are plenty of them about!

I'm in the clinic tomorrow, i haven't used in 10 days so i should pass my drugs test! I hoping to get an 1/8th tomorrow, YAY!!! :) buts its hard to find weight in Dublin, so fingers crossed! Either way i'll be scoring! I've been working loads of extra shifts lately so i'm really looking forward to relaxing with a nice smoke, nothing like it! Happy days!!! :)

I hope Blondin & PS are enjoying their holidays, lucky things!!! :)
 
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Hehe cheers ructs tho i have to say i love the irony of that statement ;)
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Oh jaysus!!! I just copped that now!!! Hahahaha!!! I'm a dope!!! But Ewan McGregor looked great in Train spotting, that is why every teenage girl had the Train Spotting poster on their wall! But when i read back over my comment it does sound a bit funny i agree!!! Tee-he-hee!!! =D
 
@Eireann: I'm from a different continent and have been clean from opiates in general. I did just sober up from a horrible 1 year alcohol binge. I've been following this thread since Jan 2011 when I found out with amazement that there was a heroin drought in Europe. Clean or using I've been interested in drugs- in particular opiate scenes around the world, narcogeopolitics, ect...- heroin was my drug of choice which I have about a 15 year history with. I've seen the prices drop and quality improve sharply over the years Stateside. This info I tried to keep to myself when the great drought of 2010-2012 was still going on.

I think anyone who has had a habit for even a short time knows the score. Most of us know what Cornishman articulated very well- We have all had the honeymoon stage were a little issue knocks our dick (or whatever your anatomy) in the dirt. Then our habit rapidly escalates and it takes more stuff to get goud out or to get right. Finally it becomes all about getting well and being functional.

Alot of us find, and I'll speak for myself, that we had mood or affect disorders. Many of us have tried conventional antidepressants but found that opiates were the only class of drugs that provided relief and improved our overall ability to function. Excercise, I believe can produce a therapeutic effect by acting on the same substrates as opioids. I'm lucky I live near a surfable ocean (and that water is warm right now). But I'm not going to pester Blondin into jogging in the sands of North Africa during his trip.

I hear talk about Meth in The UK and The Republic. Wondered when that would finally hit. A seductive high. San Diego was the Meth capital of the world for several decades stretching back to GIs taking the habit back to the US from Okininawa after WWII. But thats another story. Its having a strong resurgence among the young in addition
to heroin, which has been growing in popularity since the mid to late 90s down here. When I started dope fiends were rare among the 20 something demographic in San Diego- everyone was tweaking. By 2004 the opposite was true thanks in part to oxy. I've seen the price drop from $30 a quarter gram (quadito in Spanish- meaning small quarter) of bashed shit to $100 for 3 weighed out grams of fire dope.

I'm personally down with the 12 step approach lately- but I don't believe in shoving abstinece down anyones throat. Most importantly I believe first and foremost in the principles of harm reduction. I believe the Swiss model is the most successful thus far- there are objective peer reviewed studies as well as anecdotal info to back it up.

So congrats Eireann and Cornish for staying off gear- but Cornish take it from advice- watch your speed. This thread is a family. As dopefiends we share a common bond- often we have a sixth sense and can pick each other outta a crowd.

I've tried messaging people about NA, AA, ect... that I thought might benefit in the past, especially during the drought. But despite good intentions it never worked. Lectures and forced morality are counter productive. So welcome eireann- as firm of a believer in free speach and non censorship I respect your opinion and right to state it but please don't flame my friends.
You can flame me all you want- I have a thick skin because I'm used to it...hahahaha.

Again I'm not saying your not welcome here but your experience might be of greater benefit on the dark side forum if you are truly sincere as opposed to being the thought policeman on this thread. Again sorry if I sound critical or offensive.
 
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jspun said:
Alot of us find, and I'll speak for myself, that we had mood or affect disorders. Many of us have tried conventional antidepressants but found that opiates were the only class of drugs that provided relief and improved our overall ability to function.
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This is so so true Jspun! Most of my friends on this thread know that i had a very troubled childhood, & as i got older i found the past harder & harder to deal with. Years ago my GP put me on all sorts of Antidepressants, but nothing worked! I used to drink alcohol to try make myself feel better, but it always made me feel much MUCH worse! :(

So i stopped drinking & i stopped asking my Doctor for help, i went off & found heroin & for the first time in my life my mind was at peace. I stayed like this for years, but its never easy to support a heroin addiction. The quality of heroin varies, & heroin is not always available (drought!) & as my habit got bigger it got very expensive.

My Doctor was amazed when i told him my story, he hadn't seen me in years until recently when i was transferred from my methadone clinic to his surgery. He said that he never thought in a million years that i would become a heroin addict. I know my Doctor for nearly 30 years, i brought my children to him when they were small. He knows me very well.

I explained to my Doctor that i only ever smoked heroin, i explained how my depression totally disappeared, i told him i wasn't afraid to go outdoors any-more & i was the happiest i'd ever been. I told him how i still had a full time job & i still had a normal life, i explain to him how heroin had helped me. Then i told him how i had to stop using heroin during the drought & how depressed i became & i told him how i stopped eating when i didn't have heroin, how i lost 2 stone in weight!

He couldn't say that he thought heroin had been a good thing for me, but he was very interested to hear my story. He knew what a broken state i'd been in before i used heroin. Its a funny old world, of course there are loads of bad things about heroin, but there are good things too! The worst thing in the heroin that i buy is the crap that the dealers cut it with!

I am so looking forward to having a smoke this weekend coz i know it will lift my spirits! It will give me an apatite & i will eat well this weekend! Also my recurring nightmares
that i have been having every night since i was a child will stop once i've had a smoke of gear, its such a great relief to me! Although i do admit that i dread when all the gear is gone in a few days, even though i'm on methadone the come down will still be bad!

Its all ups & downs, swings & roundabouts.........
 
Hey Jspun, thanks for your post.

I should of been more specific in my post about meth...... (I was abbreviating methadone).
Funnily enough the thought of crystal did cross my mind as I typed it. But this being EADD I assumed no Americans would read it, lol.

I've always struggled with the theme of N.A meetings cause I'm an atheist, but they have their place and they have undoubtedly helped me in the past.
To the point of flushing my last bit of dope.

It's a strange magic that happens in those rooms.
 
Cornishman said:
I've always struggled with the theme of N.A meetings cause I'm an atheist, but they have their place and they have undoubtedly helped me in the past.
To the point of flushing my last bit of dope.

It's a strange magic that happens in those rooms.
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Yeah Cornishman i feel the very same as you! I am also an atheist, anything to do with religion angers me! Just look at how the catholic church has fucked up Ireland! Their hypocrisy makes me truly sick!!!

I have never been to an NA meeting, is there really a strange magic about them? I have always toyed with the idea of going to an NA meeting, surly there are some meetings that are not religious? Or are they all to do with religion?

Jspun very kindly sent me info about NA meetings during the drought. It was one of the days that i was at my lowest & my good pal Jspun was there with sound advice! But i never went to a meeting in the end, i always get nervous about the thoughts of going!

Do you think NA meetings really help people to deal with addiction Cornishman? If they started spouting religion at me i'd end up getting into a debate with them about all the evil that is in the catholic church, instead of talking about addiction recovery! ;) I have Very strong views about religion, its one thing that really winds me up! Are NA meetings ALL about religion or is it possible to ignore the religious aspect of the meeting?

(PS. Rattles if your reading though the thread i just wanna say a quick hello to you. I hope your ok mate? I replied to your PM the other night, there is no need or no hurry for a reply, i'm just checking that your ok? Talk soon. Onwards & upwards!!! :) )
 
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swings and roundabouts it is RUCTS.
Im far more happy when im using ,i mope about at home to the point where the mrs tells me to fuck off out of it,cant concentrate at work or get motivated ,to the point where they tell me to fuck off out of it as well , im just a all round cunt to be around.

once i get a bit of gear round me, its like someones flicked a switch and im back again, the last time i went rehab about 8 years ago ,, no one could stand being around me ,untill i relapsed after 6 months,

I know im lucky having a job i love ,my home and family, but i dont feel complete without the gear,its something 'WE' faced up to a long time ago, and as long as no one suffers because of it , that will do for me.

Anyway GEAR NEWS, my fella has 2 lots, the normal one is 70 pound a teenth and is ok-ish and the other one is proper just how gear should be, but its 100 pound a teenth.It get cheeper buying 8ths and Qs but its fucking nice.

my body clocks all fucked up, im used to early nights early starts and finish at half 2,but the job im on is in a conservation area and i cant start till 8,dont have to leave home till 7 ,iv normally been up since 4-30 and its to busy i dont like it.everyone driving about like Mr magoo.
thats my bit for the night im off for a beer and a toot.
 
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