• 🇬🇧󠁿 🇸🇪 🇿🇦 🇮🇪 🇬🇭 🇩🇪 🇪🇺
    European & African
    Drug Discussion


    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • EADD Moderators: Shambles

Regional Heroin Discussion v15

Status
Not open for further replies.
common sense cornish.....common sense.i have been there and as you know yourself the life of a junkie is pretty shitty....so enjoy youre shitty life and if you disagree you are deluded so enjoy the delusion while it lasts...the honey moon period of heroin is short lived indeed kiddo
 
Eireann, as a fellow Irishman I would ask you to stop posting altogether if you cannot refrain from posting nonsense.
 
When the tone of the forum is lowered because of misinformation it becomes the business of all bluelighters.
 
where is the misinformation in my posts?? heres a question if you had a child and he was heading out with his friends for the night,would you prefer he tried heroin like you or would you prefer he tried alcohol?
 
What has your question got to do with Regional Heroin Discussion? If you want to discuss the pros and cons of heroin vs. other drugs then start another thread in EADD or OD.

I would actually agree with you that the honeymoon period of heroin is quite short.
 
Sorry, Eireann, but your unsubstantiated ramblings do not constitute 'evidence'. If you bothered to research the subject instead of continuing to act like a boorish child, you'll find the evidence suggests the precise opposite and numbers would decline were heroin available on script. Numbers stayed constant during the 40 years of Rolleston; on the other hand, they rose from under 1500 to over 300,000 in the forty years since its abandonment. Swiss surveys report a significant decline in new user numbers since the introduction of diamorphine scripts there. In contrast, when Sweden introduced a hard line on narcotic treatment some years ago, new user numbers increased sharply. I could go on. These are facts, Eireann, and the facts simply do not support the prejudice and ignorance of which you seem so fond. I'm curious as to the extent of your own, much-trumpeted addiction - on what dose and for how long were you on prescription? Perhaps you can tell us...at the same time, you might ask yourself why you appear determined to learn nothing and prefer repeatedly to embarrass yourself in this fashion.
 
if heroin was legal it would be extremely more harmful than alcohol,how many people do you know that tried alcohol and became alcoholics....fuck all!! maybe one out of a thousand,now think of how many people you know who tried heroin and became addicts.....enough said eireann 1 most of you guys 0.

Addiction isn't the be all, end all of damage caused by drugs. Putting aside the argument about which is more addictive, and to what extent, in a clean, legal environment, alcohol addiction is many times more damaging to the body than heroin addiction.

Alcohol, just off the top of my head, causes liver damage, increases blood pressure and causes damage to the cardiovascular system, is a neurotoxin and a well known carcinogen with alcoholics experiencing much higher rates of certain cancers. These aren't problems caused by administration, or adulterates, these problems are inseparable from the use of the drug. And that's completely ignoring the peripheral issues associated with alcohol abuse and addiction, drunk driving, violence, and the like. Someone with a severe alcohol addiction almost certainly will eventually die of that addiction if they don't stop drinking.

Heroin, on the other hand, is almost completely benign when administered in measured doses using a sterile procedure. Someone could inject heroin every day for the rest of their life and it wouldn't reduce their lifespan as long as they're careful in measuring doses and administer it in a clean and hygienic fashion. The worst it does mess with your hormone levels, inconvenient, but nothing compared to the list above.

The risks we commonly associate with heroin use (overdose, infection, blood-borne diseases, toxic contaminants) all stem directly from the prohibition of the drug. Overdoses happen because street heroin is of varying purity, fatal overdose on pure opiates during recreational use is relatively rare unless they're combined with other CNS depressants (if you look at the numbers, I think you'll find that the majority of 'opiate overdoses' involve at least one other depressant, usually alcohol or benzodiazepines).The rest are all a result of users being forced to use dirty, contaminated product in unsterilized conditions, which is a direct result of heroin prohibition.
 
I'd rather not have an addiction at all but give me heroin any day over alcohol. I've seen alcoholisim up close first hand and it's caused troubles a hundred times worse than a managable heroin addiction.
I dunno where Eireann got his facts about one in a thousand drinkers turn into alcoholics because thats complete bs. I live in a town with over 4 thousand in it and believe me there are many more than four alchos in it....many many many more.
He's constantly lookin 4 a reaction by disagreeing with everyone, and I for one am bored with his tripe and will like some others be blocking him to.
 
If I could find the link I'd post it, alas I cannot.
Another user posted it a while back, with the gist being - 14% of those who try Heroin become an addict, 23% for alcoholics and 36% for nicotine.
 
Eireann, as a fellow Irishman I would ask you to stop posting altogether if you cannot refrain from posting nonsense.


Hi Trypamite!!! :) How are you mate? Long time no talk! I hope all is well your end! Is that other eegit STILL posting??? Most of us have him blocked so thankfully we don't have to read his nonsense posts!!!

Julie! :) I have to say that i love your whit! You gave me a giggle!!! :)
 
If I could find the link I'd post it, alas I cannot.
Another user posted it a while back, with the gist being - 14% of those who try Heroin become an addict, 23% for alcoholics and 36% for nicotine.

I actually heard it was 23% for heroin and I'm a bit dubious about 23% for alcoholism, but then again it's easier to identify a heroin addict than an alcoholic.

Statistics aside, pure heroin is a far cleaner drug than alcohol, which is pure poison. Another popular poison is sugar, and this article puts forward a strong argument for consuming heroin rather than sugar: http://arch1design.com/blog/2009/05/why-not-put-heroin-in-our-cornflakes/
 
Heroin, on the other hand, is almost completely benign when administered in measured doses using a sterile procedure. Someone could inject heroin every day for the rest of their life and it wouldn't reduce their lifespan as long as they're careful in measuring doses and administer it in a clean and hygienic fashion. The worst it does mess with your hormone levels, inconvenient, but nothing compared to the list above.

not exactly true is it? everyday for the rest of your life your tolerance would become so the line between high and dead is like ><, there would still be a risk from lowered environmental tolerance, you'd still probably get collapsed veins because you'd be hitting say every 4 hours, & your ass would be fucked from rarely shitting.

and it's pointless to talk like that, it's not like that, even as a user, injecting street heroin is grimey as fuck.
 
not exactly true is it? everyday for the rest of your life your tolerance would become so the line between high and dead is like ><, there would still be a risk from lowered environmental tolerance, you'd still probably get collapsed veins because you'd be hitting say every 4 hours, & your ass would be fucked from rarely shitting.

and it's pointless to talk like that, it's not like that, even as a user, injecting street heroin is grimey as fuck.


Your veins would be fine.
Because pure heroin is so.... pure/clean. You don't need to risk damaging your veins to inject it.

You can IM the stuff and still get a very high BA (85% ).
 
Still waiting for any evidence to support your assertions, Eireann, as well as for the details of your personal addiction experience. Nowadays, do you drink a bit, perhaps? On the subject of evidence, I've read opinions both pro and con snorting citric-needing brown but can anyone provide its ingestion efficiency percentage compared to injection and smoking? If anyone can, it'd be appreciated, thanks.
 
Still waiting for any evidence to support your assertions, Eireann, as well as for the details of your personal addiction experience. Nowadays, do you drink a bit, perhaps? On the subject of evidence, I've read opinions both pro and con snorting citric-needing brown but can anyone provide its ingestion efficiency percentage compared to injection and smoking? If anyone can, it'd be appreciated, thanks.

i have drank maybe 9 cans in 8months never had an infatuation with alcohol,and as for heroin i was on it 5 yrs doing around a bottle of gear a week,and now i am 8months clean....are you going to congratulate me charlie???
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top