Regional Heroin Discussion v14: What's the point?

[charlie clean]

Don't you be thinking silly, Kat, you know junk can exacerbate depression if you're in one. Don't worry about gaol, if it happens it could be the making of you. Macvicar became a sociologist, ffs.

 

[kkattastic]

Don't you be thinking silly, Kat, you know junk can exacerbate depression if you're in one. Don't worry about gaol, if it happens it could be the making of you. Macvicar became a sociologist, ffs.

I am not actively suicidal at this time
usually it comes about as part of withdrawal
it's just that I spent a great deal of energy investigating it so have acquired some knowledge on the subject

 

[griffin79]

I am not actively suicidal at this time
usually it comes about as part of withdrawal
it's just that I spent a great deal of energy investigating it so have acquired some knowledge on the subject

Kat it's true what they knowledge is Power

 

[oxynorm]

Nembutal and seconal use to be in my top ten for recreational drugs - all barbs are good to get high on , with the right dose of course - i once spent 2 weeks in a villa in spain with 3 mates and about 100 reds (seconal) dont remember a damn thing except lying by the pool and floating on a cloud of barby bliss.
heroin and valium in high enough doses will do the trick if you wanna die but be a long way from the chances of being found as like K said if your brought round you could be brain damaged if your brain has been starved of o2. but hey well off topic.

Back on bought some more v expensive gear but had 6 lines and felt like if i had 3-4 more i would gouch - about .1. Amazing stuff been around for a couple of weeks pale powder not stamped on and i reckon 50%+. I know what my mate paid on the oz and his bags are .8 but its gone in hours/day or so and people dont mind payin as its probably some of the best ive ever had let alone since the drought.

Does that qualify for a 10 Blondin rating then mate, Glad to hear it, got a new batch off my man today and its surprisingly decent. Decent in the sense that i've smoked about .3 of it tonight and am pretty damn itchy, and warm to the extent that I thought i'd turned my electric blanket on and it wasnt! Been close to a mild gouch too at some points, but its by no means knockout stuff. I do believe it is in the lower tier of the two tier system some posters have spoken about. Luckily i'm getting the chance to get some absolute fire through an old Turkish mate, I bumped into by absolute chance yesterday, he's extremely well connected so I know it will be. It will be intrestiing once I've tried this real quality kit to compare it to the likely 15-20% stuff that I'm calling ok. It will likely blow it--and me--completely out of the water.

Although for the general community it does seem that purity is on the rise, this is the best local batch I've had in months as its the first one to actually induce a gouch. Give it 5.5-6/10.

 

[Gizmo101]

hows it going folks - i have not got a chance to use bl in ages - my old wreck of a computer is a heep of shite so i have to depend on useing mates laptops when i can - there has not being any thing to report anyway - tings are the very same in dublin - all the b is weak shite - all dealers are selling the very same stuff - so i have not been useing much - tis is a very big brake through for me - in nearly 20 years i have never been clean for more then a few days - but now i am going weeks with out useing

my doc said if i keep doing well he will give me my phy take away - can you beleve that ? me the fuck up of the centary geting take away! its truely amazing! - i do a weekly drug test and out of my last 8 tests i have passed 5 - tats good going ! - i am lucky coz i can give a clean piss after 5 days and with the b being so weak it makes it easier - but i had a little slip on sunday nite / mon morn - and im in clinic tomora morn- so i might have fucked up

a mate said to eat well and drink pleny of water - same mate said i sud take laxitives coz phy stops you going to the tolet and that keeps the b in your system longer coz your not passing it - so taking laxitives cleans out your system - i never heard of tis b4/ has anyone eles? i hate taken lax so i do not want to take tem if their is no point - but if it helps pass the test i will try any ting ! - i had not used all wk and then i had a small slip on sun - i do not want to lose chance of take away over 1 tiny slip - it was not worth it - i am the type that will lose heart if i am not doing well - i will tink fuck it wats the point - but once i am passing tests and doing well i will keep my head down and keep going and going - i am so pissed off with my self 4 using tat score bag of shite b - so has any one heard of lax helping ?

hope u are all well - yous are geting good in england - pity it does not make it aross the water

 

[hooks]

Best tip I can give is drink LOTS of water - it's done the trick for me in not quite 3 days in a piss test.

Back on topic - The good light coloured stuff seems to have gone or at least has been universally stamped on. It WAS proper nice gouching tackle but it only lasted about 3 or 4 days. Now it seems to be a bit darker in colour and weaker of course. I think the good stuff has just been stamped on by different dealers and is just not as good now. Which means we await the influx (or not) of the next decent batch...

I got a funny call from a dealer yesterday - it was the one who sold me the proper nice tackle last week which magically turned really crap when I went back on the 3rd occasion. So he tells me he's got summat that's nearly as good as the good one. He said it was 8/10 and 'just one step lower than the good one'. So after running it thru the dealer bullshit translator I deduce that it's really about 4/10 and pretty crappy really. Anything that isn't 10/10 must be shit. Even 10/10 CAN be shit but anything less forget it!

 

[oxynorm]

Oh...my...god...I just got this tackle from my turkish mate and it is absoultely wonderful, I have had 3! 3! fucking lines and I am more ineiberateed and warm and euphoric and totally fucking fantastic than I've ever felt since I had kit from my pashtu mate a good 2 year ago...3 LINES!!!!!!! Like Blondin I'm paying A LOT for it about £10 for 0.07-0.09 but everyone I'm sure would pay for a £30 bag of genuine fire, than 3 bags of medicore shit.

It looks so beautiful the powder: its not hard, stoney and rocky, but this great fluffy, dandruff like substence.


It has sadly made me realise that people are seriously kidding themselves on--I'm as guilty of it as anyone--if they think that what they are smoking is actual heroin, its shite, pure, utter, shite. For the first time in a long time I feel that overwhelming sense of inner peace, serenity and ability to engage with oneself. I actually forgot heroin could do that to you, it was a faded, distant memory long extingushed, that I never thought would be re-lit.

I've just had my fourth line and im on the verge of a gouch, this is truly awesome, awesome stuff 9.5 Blondns

 

[charlie clean]

my doc said if i keep doing well he will give me my phy take away - can you beleve that ? me the fuck up of the centary geting take away! its truely amazing!

Don't want to come on all generational but it wasn't so long ago you were only NOT allowed takeaways if you'd done something wrong. Now the assumption seems to be that taking drugs is itself wrong and users need to be monitored and controlled at every step. You wouldn't expect such treatment if you saw the doctor for any other reason and users should protest at the punitive restrictions to which they're subjected. If not, it's as if you agree you're an inferior, suspect human being. If you don't believe your taking drugs to be an offence, don't let anyone treat you like a convict on parole. Things will only get better when users stand up for themselves and demand the respect to which every patient should be entitled.

 

[oxynorm]

Well this has been the best day of tooting I've ever had. I smoked 0.1 of this gear and I went into the mother of all gouches...Tis ashame this sorta stuff is not widely available, only in small, closed pak, afghan,turk communities...This stuff is at least 50 pure, never had anything like it in the U.K

 

[Cornishman]

^^
Tis nice when you get something so great you only need smoke small amounts to get high beyond belief.

Ultimate harm reduction > you'd have to be crazy to think of using a needle for real heroin.
Enjoy your proper drugs you lucky git!

 

[oxynorm]

Thanks mate glad you are happy for me, ive waited so long for this--I had the same thought as you--if I were to hit even .1 of this stuff, I seriously dont know what state I'd be in. Its not somewhere I'd like to go...I really hope things pick up in the UK, they look like they are at least where I am my local "10 bag" dealers stuff has steadily increased from maybe a 4/10 in feb to a 5.5/10 now.

 

[Froghopper]

So after running it thru the dealer bullshit translator I deduce that it's really about 4/10 and pretty crappy really. Anything that isn't 10/10 must be shit.

Lol someone needs to make an app for that! i think i have one built in now anyway but it would help haha

how u doin hooks? my birmingham source has gone had a big barny last time we went,ended up waiting in the sketchiest part of brum for an hour after he said he'd be there so we went n then got cased for an hour afterwards! cba with it anymore the popo are on top round there n it aint worth the good gear for all the stress of getting pulled,its already happened to one mate a while back.

Just had a phone call regarding the other source and apparently its better but i'll wait n see later lol the anti bullshit device was reading high haha

Peace
FH

 

[hooks]

When 'proper' gear starts coming back in (if ever) then people are gonna go over left, right and centre. Even the good stuff at the minute is pretty shitty really, it's true.

How's it going FH? I did a post ages ago about probable inputs/outputs via the dealer bullshit translation matrix! They must think we're daft with the bollocks they come out with!

 

[Cornishman]

Thanks mate glad you are happy for me, ive waited so long for this--I had the same thought as you--if I were to hit even .1 of this stuff, I seriously dont know what state I'd be in. Its not somewhere I'd like to go...I really hope things pick up in the UK, they look like they are at least where I am my local "10 bag" dealers stuff has steadily increased from maybe a 4/10 in feb to a 5.5/10 now.

Sounds just like down here & peeps are charging silly prices too.

I just hope dealers will have the foresight to warn their customers if/when the kinda stuff you're getting makes a comeback.

People here are hitting up half grammes in one shot.....

 

[Froghopper]

When 'proper' gear starts coming back in (if ever) then people are gonna go over left, right and centre. Even the good stuff at the minute is pretty shitty really, it's true.

How's it going FH? I did a post ages ago about probable inputs/outputs via the dealer bullshit translation matrix! They must think we're daft with the bollocks they come out with!

I don't think it's a case of them thinking we're fools, they're just trying to be the best of a bad bunch. still a fuck about when you get lied too though. fingers crossed for the summer eh!?

FH

 

[oxynorm]

When 'proper' gear starts coming back in (if ever) then people are gonna go over left, right and centre. Even the good stuff at the minute is pretty shitty really, it's true.

How's it going FH? I did a post ages ago about probable inputs/outputs via the dealer bullshit translation matrix! They must think we're daft with the bollocks they come out with!

Mate i've smoked just over 0.1 of this gear over the course of the day and I was fucked for 4 hours, Ive also been sick. And I usually go through about a HT of "average" gear a day... I don't know how much better you can get...I'm not rubbing it in i've just waited for this moment for over a year. The great stuff is out there, as ppl like blondin will testify, its just who you know really.

 

[Gizmo101]

Don't want to come on all generational but it wasn't so long ago you were only NOT allowed takeaways if you'd done something wrong. Now the assumption seems to be that taking drugs is itself wrong and users need to be monitored and controlled at every step. You wouldn't expect such treatment if you saw the doctor for any other reason and users should protest at the punitive restrictions to which they're subjected. If not, it's as if you agree you're an inferior, suspect human being. If you don't believe your taking drugs to be an offence, don't let anyone treat you like a convict on parole. Things will only get better when users stand up for themselves and demand the respect to which every patient should be entitled.

tat all sounds great mate - but in the real world its not as easy as stamping your feet + demanding to get wat you want - there has been a lot of deaths due to od on phy in dublin - i know people who have died from it - so unless your clean they are not going to take the risk of giving you take away - then everyone wud just sell there phy + buy more b - its just the way it is - i happen to agree tat phy in the wrong hands can be very dangerous

my doc is sound - thankfuly he does not treat me like a convict on parole - he is just following the same laws as you + i are - i dont agree wit the laws - but i do not tink me demanding to be treated different is going change anyting - mybe some day drugs will be legal again - for now i wud be happy wit take away phy

 

[charlie clean]

No, Gizmo, you don't demand anything. You expect to be treated as you would be seeing the doctor for any other reason and, if you're not, politely query the reasons. Users can slip instead into the image that seems expected....look around next time you're at the clinic or in user company and tell me I'm wrong.

Back in the days of unsupervised takeaways, legal guidelines advised a minimum 3 year prison sentence for anybody convicted of selling their script. If you sold drugs you became the business of criminal justice; otherwise, addiction was a medical affair. Now, the user in treatment is less an individual than part of a cartoon stereotype and 'monitored' regardless of their connection to criminal behaviour. Maybe you need supervision. But that doesn't mean the next fellow does. Heroin users have as much common identity as random passengers on a train. Can you imagine the outcry if any other patient group was lumped together on a basis of lowest common denominator?

".. people have died from..[phy amps].. so unless your clean they are not going to take the risk of giving you take away"? If you're 'clean' you won't be on a script anyway and the od victims obtained their supplies from somewhere. If you wouldn't sell your script, I hope the doctor knows it and that only your respect for the law saves you from taking offence. That isn't stamping your feet. If your doctor's a proper human being, he'll expect it; whether he is or isn't, he needs to know you're not buying into the con. That's all.

 

[Gizmo101]

Things will only get better when users stand up for themselves and demand the respect to which every patient should be entitled.

i am not going to demand any ting, to demand was your idea mate not mine - i do not have a problem wit my doc or wit my clinic - tey are dead nice people + they have always treted me with respect - so i have no complaints - but yeah i get wat your are saying - but wat im saying is that my doc is following the same laws that you + i are - unless you openly brake the law + use your drugs in front of the police? - + if you do fair play to you - i have been to prison + i do not fancy going back

but i do understand the phy ting - way to many people have oded on phy coz they do not understand how dangerous it is - also i want to give up b - its bing 20years of hell - i find tat trying to stay clean from b so i get take away helps me - the hopes of take away is the only ting tats keeping me clean at the moment - so i am happy wit the way tings are - i was just asken woukd takeing lax help me pass drug test ? - but its grand now coz i did test to day + passed so happy days - not suprised i passed as the b is so shite here

 

[charlie clean]

yes, I meant demand impersonally and see how you could interpret it and where you're coming from, no worries. Glad you've been lucky with your doc and passed your test, hope it all works out for you.