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Regional Heroin Discussion v13: Points of reference

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when i first came up to london in 81 we had a source that would sell it at a tenner a gram or so, we use to dissolve it in brandy (home made laudenum) and lie on a big double bed all day dreamily floating around - much nicer than smack
 
I went to my pre sentencing probation report today
she said she would recommend a suspended sentence
I can't afford to get my hopes up as the judge can and is likely to ignore what she says
it would be great tho
I have got rid of all my things(bar a few keepsies) so would be a complete fresh start in a different area
I just want to put all my past,and drug use included,behind me and get a new life
this has def been the kick up the arse I needed
I am still working on the plan that I will be doing some time-up to a year to serve
a detox in jail (argh!)-but if not,I definitely plan to get clean off the methadone now
 
Hi Kkat! Fingers crossed for a suspended sentence! You deserve a second chance! & then you can make your fresh start! I have my fingers & toes crossed for you!!! <3

I'd love a start fresh as well! I'm gonna stop scoring after i go to the clinic every second week, i'm sick of wasting money on rubbish gear! So i'm gonna keep my head down for a while. I'm gonna try not check into Bluelight as often either, its like an obsession checking to see if there is any news on the drought ending! So i'll be keeping my head down & hopefully behaving myself! :)
 
Giving up the gear myself now, especially after this week - what a week! The gear I got the last time was not actually cut with tobacco as I said already, but with this weird green stuff. I'm 100% sure there was gear in it, but the stuff that was in it made it unsmokeable. It's a horrible feeling getting ripped off by your main but I suppose I should have known better.

Aside from that, my mother found a syringe of it in my room (I was plugging it) and was shocked and horrified. Luckily for me, she didn't think it was heroin but she thought it was another drug and that I was pretending to take heroin because I'm such an attention-seeker. Realising that I had to get rid of it quickly, I IM'd all I had left into my leg. Really not my most intelligent decision ever. Then it became really swollen and excruciatingly painful so I saw a doctor and now I'm on antibiotics.

So I don't think I'll be going near the stuff again for a long while.
 
Im'ing with brown is never a good idea unless you have a wheel filter - its just asking for an abcess, if your doing it cos you cant hit a vein then plug it (snap the point of first lol)
saw someone hadnt seen for months who had ok gear 8/10 1.3 for a tenner am waiting for tomorrow now for a tester off someone who has been off for more than a year but i know his sources or knew so im not expecting much tho he did come up with some proper pd stuff 8-9 months ago .4 for a score but when i tried to get a henry it changed ....surprised surprise.

Ah well it free so nothing to loose plus the other fella is near by and is on early near where i work but the really good stuff is still .1 for 10- its not so bad when i get 10 as its one rock so doesnt feel like im being ripped but it really is a case of you pays yer money you take your choice these days.
 
blondin said:
Im'ing with brown is never a good idea unless you have a wheel filter - its just asking for an abcess, if your doing it cos you cant hit a vein then plug it (snap the point of first lol)
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Yeah I've IV'd tiny amounts before but I find shooting into a vein rather daunting. I read loads about how IM'ing is bad for you but I remember being told by someone on a drugs helpline that it was better than shooting up so I was rightly confused. It seems that IV'ing poses a greater immediate risk but that IM'ing is more likely to result in complications, especially when what you're shooting is 95% dirt.

If I had brains I'd be dangerous!
 
class-a-team said:
Yeah I've IV'd tiny amounts before but I find shooting into a vein rather daunting. I read loads about how IM'ing is bad for you but I remember being told by someone on a drugs helpline that it was better than shooting up so I was rightly confused. It seems that IV'ing poses a greater immediate risk but that IM'ing is more likely to result in complications, especially when what you're shooting is 95% dirt.

If I had brains I'd be dangerous!
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Yep, you've got the right idea. IMing has a very high risk of abscess/infection as blondin said, as the gear and crap is just sitting there in your muscle. With IV it is swept away by the blood stream and your body can handle any infection much better. IVing does carry risks of course - overdose, endocarditis, sepsis etc - but IMing heroin, or any street drug, is asking for trouble..

Micron/wheel filters def reduce the risk and I would not IM anything without them, but even with a micron I wouldn't IM street heroin..

Really glad you went to your docs and got on antibiotics class-a, I hope it clears up soon!
 
You think with the gov distracted by all these pump fillers striking drug dealers will seize the oppurtunity to slip on by?
 
Somebody posted a few pages back about being on 60 mls missing doses and using, and being able to save some Meth then knocking the gear on the head and taking there meth and still feeling like shit.Well I got to say a couple of things, if u got gear and its holding you by not taking 60 mls it HAS TO BE OK STUFF, I know I too have been in mysery for 18 yrs and I think my gears ok and I still can't go a day without having my methadone whilst using.Also another thing to think about is all gear is coming back for Benzo's and I dont know anyone who isn't, there's ppl on here not taking tolerances into consideration and I'd say there's gear from 20-30% it has to be if even I can go longer since the drought without taking my meths, ok I can't go days, or a full day without meth but I remember before I needed both the same time were as now if I use on a night time I can go well into the next dat tea time without my meth,.So its possible people are having a Benzo rattle mistaken for gear as the symptoms are very similar.One way to test ya gear for benzo's is a definate nod, but no rush nice feeling just a heavy dopey nod, luckily Ive had some grey stuff thats real rushy in the pin, and when smoked its the same alot less gawchy but a few days use its BACK TO SQUARE ONE , not feeling shit again, I want to be able to scrape blobs of my front gnashers, u always new when gear was strong and was what its ment to be when it stook to ya god damn teeth. Its all a mugs game and nobody knows anything , but the minute the draught sets back in think I'll stop all together, or at lest give it a try cos somethings seriously is going wrong and the fact the producers have now become consumers also makes a diff, but if thats the case how come in 09-10 we had some good stuff before the drought.
 
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Jesus, last night i coulldn't score so my junkie pal gave me four 200 mg tramadol sr & 10 mg temazepam for a fiver & i took the lot on top of 20 of my diazepam & i swear i felt nothing, just.... "held me", not a good fucking sign but shit even 240 of codeine hits the spot for me so i think after my last brain bender with tramadol my receptors are all torn & frayed?
 
All the gear ive been getting collects on me teeth - i scrape it off with my fingernail and save it up...i know eeuuuuchhh Its deffo more like 40-45% but then its v. dear can get cheaper but id always go for quality over quantity

oh yeah saw my mate and tested his stuf and its the same as everyone seems to have that runs red/yellow - the other fella's was ok but can only get 9/10 from one person.
 
Bodder said:
Somebody posted a few pages back about being on 60 mls missing doses and using, and being able to save some Meth then knocking the gear on the head and taking there meth and still feeling like shit.Well I got to say a couple of things, if u got gear and its holding you by not taking 60 mls it HAS TO BE OK STUFF, I know I too have been in mysery for 18 yrs and I think my gears ok and I still can't go a day without having my methadone whilst using.Also another thing to think about is all gear is coming back for Benzo's and I dont know anyone who isn't, there's ppl on here not taking tolerances into consideration and I'd say there's gear from 20-30% it has to be if even I can go longer since the drought without taking my meths, ok I can't go days, or a full day without meth but I remember before I needed both the same time were as now if I use on a night time I can go well into the next dat tea time without my meth,.So its possible people are having a Benzo rattle mistaken for gear as the symptoms are very similar.One way to test ya gear for benzo's is a definate nod, but no rush nice feeling just a heavy dopey nod, luckily Ive had some grey stuff thats real rushy in the pin, and when smoked its the same alot less gawchy but a few days use its BACK TO SQUARE ONE , not feeling shit again, I want to be able to scrape blobs of my front gnashers, u always new when gear was strong and was what its ment to be when it stook to ya god damn teeth. Its all a mugs game and nobody knows anything , but the minute the draught sets back in think I'll stop all together, or at lest give it a try cos somethings seriously is going wrong and the fact the producers have now become consumers also makes a diff, but if thats the case how come in 09-10 we had some good stuff before the drought.
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lot of sense in their especially the stuff about a benzo rattle being similar to a gear one .
Yeah it will be my 18th smack anniversary next year:|
 
doppelganga196 said:
Jesus, last night i coulldn't score so my junkie pal gave me four 200 mg tramadol sr & 10 mg temazepam for a fiver & i took the lot on top of 20 of my diazepam & i swear i felt nothing, just.... "held me", not a good fucking sign but shit even 240 of codeine hits the spot for me so i think after my last brain bender with tramadol my receptors are all torn & frayed?
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Tramadol is a shitty drug
dunno about it's potential for pain relief but i know it is next to useless in terms of being an opiate replacement
 
brimz said:
Seconded i would throw them away rather than take em

N i luv Opiates
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I actually found a big bag of them in a bin near my house
eventually I found a friend that was being prescribed them after she broke her leg
I gave them to her
but a lotta people I know(people that don't use opiates),say that tramadol gave them bad dreams and were not very effective
 
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