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Regional Heroin Discussion v12 aka. Get yer junk out - Still no pricing please.

Our Serious organised crime agency(soca) and other departments, e.g. specialized CID units, are now working with foreign governments, with our agents in their countries taking out the Mr. Bigs, rather than mules being replaced. Thats how a major Tukish gang got took out a while back. Drought though has several possible reasons though. End of day the more of it their is the better, and it doesnt take a genius to know that not enough is getting into the country.
 
there is plenty of gear about but nearly all of it is not got any heroin in im so pissed off at the situation plus i got tooth ache and cant score normaldecent tonite cause of the cunting police . we had a ace connect for gear for 6 months and it was bliss gear straight from pakistan so only cut twice it as has if the drought was distant bad memory.
i could act like it was 1999-2008 again but them filty bastards fucked it up
 
I had a really good gouch off 180ml meth today
as good as any gear nod
in and out of it for several hours
 
RE: Drug Testing.
Sample 2 was positive for meth' and negative for kit. Before I gave sample 2 my last use of kit was on the Thursday and I gave my sample on the following Wednesday, so if you count the Wednesday I waited 6 days before giving my sample which seemed to work fine. I think that 5 or 6 clean days should be enough for a clean sample.

Yep, most people will be clean after about 5 days, but not all people. Some people will be clean after 3 days & others it can take 10 or more days before all the heroin leaves their system. As Kkat says having a slow metabolism is a bummer! It means you have to take longer breaks from the gear to get a clean sample. I have been on methadone for many years & i know that it always takes much longer to leave my system, but i thought a 7 day break would be ok coz the gear i was using was so bloody weak, but no such luck!!!

@Katt i am the exact same as you, it can take me up to 11 days before i can give a clean, but some times i can get away with 8 days, i wish i could figure it out! My boyfriend & i always use the same amount at the same time & he is always clean after a 5 day break, but i never am. Before we moved to the private GP we used to go to the methadone clinic & to speed things up the Doctor would see my bf & me at the same time, when i'd be dirty & my bf would be clean the Doctor used to look at me in disgust & he say 'Ructions you must be using behind your bf's back, there is no other explanation! Your going to end up dragging him down with you!' Luckily my bf is a diamond & he knows that i never ever use behind his back, he would tell the Doctor that but the Doc never believed me, in his eyes i was just a lieing junkie! Its a good job that my bf is such a nice reasonable bloke, otherwise our Doctor could have caused murder between us!!

@4x4ledbury, yeah your right, i'd probably end up getting stung if i went to the UK, but i'm sick of waiting for things to improve over here. I'll sit tight for a while longer so!! :)
 
Dublin w/side update.

Hey folks-father ted crilly here:
I picked up today in the city centre-its a light brown powder,no lumps-so a fine texture.Its perfect on the foil,v dark blob,and runs fine,
Its def the best out of the bunch as regards what ive got over the past few months-Ive had other,that when you run it on the foil and come to the end of your line;after taking the lighter away it remains a 'liquid' state a lot longer than this stuff i have now,stuff at the moment hardens up real quick....so,i dont know-obviously a cut..???

So,after thinking about other irish reports and what they would like to get from their gear-Some say they want that 'rush' of energy before that semi-conscious state (nod)...for me,im pretty happy with this kit.
My useage would mainly be in the evening,after work,dinner and any other of the usual things one would do before say 9pm.So im not realy looking for that rush or high.I like to chill out,surf the net and basically drift into a nod slowly but surely.Yeah,i could get that with benzo's and other things,but i like the ritual of stroking the foil up and down and chasing that beetle with my tooter-

My report is positive.im content to take this.You all might say-'you havent a clue' or 'you've never had good' etc etc...but its what i want and not you....each to their own in drought times-whatever floats your boat...and mine is sailing into the rainy night sky...with serenity on the horizon...;)
 
ya as i was told it's something going on in Holland that cause the drought anyone hear or know anymore about this theory

@griffin-it has to be a problem at source-the mo fo's out in pakistan just hvent got their shit together in the past year or more-Can it really be that the gear is coming in good and UK kingpins are doing their foxtrot or whatever on it?-i think not,i belive there has been huge problems on the production side of things and that we our suffering the effects of events that have happened(fuck knows what they are) in pakistan...
And guess what??
Theres sweet fack all we can do about it.Be sensible,give up those dirty nasty drugs.
 
UMmmm.... that could be a good idea!!! ;)

I had a really good gouch off 180ml meth today
as good as any gear nod
in and out of it for several hours

My holding dose is just 15ml so if I double it or more I get quite a nice buzz from it. It's not quite a kit stone but you do get a nice warm glow from it. Last week I decided to dip in to my stock pile and took 60ml. Afterwards I slept for almost a day and a half. Not a constant sleep because I had to get up for the toilet and food, I'm really glad I had plenty of grab and eat munchies in that I didn't need to cook. During it I'd get up, put my laptop on and find myself gouching out again. I didn't need any more meth' for 2 days afterwards and the dose I did take was only because I had to go in to the chemist that day. Double what you need to hold you Ruct and you'll deffo get a glow from it. I'd try to have a bit of hash or some grass when you take it because a wee joint goes lovely with it.
 
Hi Fr. Ted! :) How you doing?! Yeah i think thats the worst thing about this whole drought, its the whole not knowing exactly why there still is a drought? & not knowing if/when things will return to normal? Its a head wreck!!! I know its most likely a number of factors that caused the drought, i'd just love to know when they will all be sorted out?!

I'm getting similar gear to what you describe, well in looks anyway, its good looking gear! Although what i'm getting is more sleepy buzz then nod! Sometimes i read back over the old Bluelight threads from last Nov/Dec/Jan, things were so depressing back then! At that time you couldn't score anything other then complete tripe! So at least things have improved! When i think of the cold & the snow, ringing around desperately trying to score & not knowing what the hell was going on! They were hard times indeed, i wouldn't fancy going back there! Although i score a lot less now since the drought, so i think i'd be able to cope much better a second time around!

@ Griffin, alright mate! :) Hope your well! What is this theory on Holland? I didn't hear anything about that. As i said i think its a number of problems causing the drought so i'd be interested in hearing another theory! Fill me in! :)
 
UMmmm.... that could be a good idea!!! ;)

Hi Fr. Ted! :) How you doing?! Yeah i think thats the worst thing about this whole drought, its the whole not knowing exactly why there still is a drought? & not knowing if/when things will return to normal? Its a head wreck!!! I know its most likely a number of factors that caused the drought, i'd just love to know when they will all be sorted out?!

I'm getting similar gear to what you describe, well in looks anyway, its good looking gear! Although what i'm getting is more sleepy buzz then nod! Sometimes i read back over the old Bluelight threads from last Nov/Dec/Jan, things were so depressing back then! At that time you couldn't score anything other then complete tripe! So at least things have improved! When i think of the cold & the snow, ringing around desperately trying to score & not knowing what the hell was going on! They were hard times indeed, i wouldn't fancy going back there! Although i score a lot less now since the drought, so i think i'd be able to cope much better a second time around!

@ Griffin, alright mate! :) Hope your well! What is this theory on Holland? I didn't hear anything about that. As i said i think its a number of problems causing the drought so i'd be interested in hearing another theory! Fill me in! :)

To be honest with you Ructs thats the best I think you can ever hope to get. There's plenty of the stuff that minics kit in how it looks, smells and even tastes. It's been years since I've been walking up the stairs to a dealer's flat and you could smell the scent of strong kit smoke out in the close and even the best of what's going about now would have been unacceptable back in the day. When I first started taking kit and it was good strong stuff when I flossed my front teeth the floss would go black, now it barely even sticks to my front teeth.

The kit here's taken a massive nose dive over the last 4 years and it was the summer of 2008 that I first saw that fluffy whiteish power which is bashed up muck beimg sold as kit. There's nothing to convince me that things will ever be like the late 90s into the early to mid 00s ever again. People are buying up that post 2007 crap so it looks like it's here to stay...:(
 
Yep, i totally agree with you there Trip2themoon! :) The gear has got weaker & weaker over the last 3 or 4 years. Things had been going downhill for a long while before the drought hit. But things have sure hit an all time low now. I'm beginning to think that i'm gonna have to either except the gear thats around & get on with it, or else i should just give up once & for all!

I'd love to completely give up, at one stage during the drought i didn't score for 7 weeks!!! But you know how it is, heroin always calls you back! You could be plodding along having a great day when suddenly the urge comes over you like a tsunami wave & before you know it you've gone & scored! Addiction is such a powerful thing!

But yes i agree with you 1000000% that the gear has been going downhill for the last 3 or 4 years!
 
Yep, i totally agree with you there Trip2themoon! :) The gear has got weaker & weaker over the last 3 or 4 years. Things had been going downhill for a long while before the drought hit. But things have sure hit an all time low now. I'm beginning to think that i'm gonna have to either except the gear thats around & get on with it, or else i should just give up once & for all!

I'd love to completely give up, at one stage during the drought i didn't score for 7 weeks!!! But you know how it is, heroin always calls you back! You could be plodding along having a great day when suddenly the urge comes over you like a tsunami wave & before you know it you've gone & scored! Addiction is such a powerful thing!

But yes i agree with you 1000000% that the gear has been going downhill for the last 3 or 4 years!


I mentioned that to my drug councillor that heroin has an allure that meth' just cannot compensate for. I'm curious, when did you first try the sweet opiate? I first tried it back in 1997 when a few lines would make me physically sick. I'm convinced that if I tried the best of what's going about now for the first time ever that I wouldn't puke.

In a way I've been glad of the dry up. As long as I had meth' I refused to pay for the bashed up muck that was being sold when things were at its worst. It's been great being able to buy new things and for the first time in about 6 years I have a wee bit of money saved up. Back when there was no dry up and I had a daily habit I'd never have money in the bank when my next wage went in and I was always having to borrow money on the days leading up to my pay day. I haven't borrowed a penny in over a year now. Even if things never go back to the way the were I can at least say I've known how beautiful the poppy can be.
 
How beautiful you say? i would reply seductive, misleading, expensive, the worst b1tch you could ever have. Apart from that...yeah its... addictive...lol
 
i first tried it in jail aboit two years ago, i used to get about 2.5 grams in a card. My uncle who is now a lifer was fucking amazing at it. And to be honest being a casual inside with all my trainers (i had 6 pair and had to get poor lads to get pro forms for them) and all my polos etc up in costa del addiewell + a decent relationship with the screws they never suspected me one bit,Infact in the 5 times i have been in i have never had an MDT and the one time i did get caught i wrnt mental saying somebody was setting me up and insisted they test to see if it was actually heroin as the screw said that looks like quite alot it was also signed from my dad. and my defence was i dont have a dad which i dont! my uncle wasnt daft ;)

Anyway one of the first times i took it i woke up in the morning with at least 10 skins on the floor and enough tobavvo to fill them lol i can remember putting the tobacco in and i would convince myself to shut my eyes as i licked it and tucked it. looking back now i was gouching!! even tho at the time i didnt know what gouching was i was also trying to run it and basically spotting it as i was using caramel wafer wrappers which is really think for a total beginner! i a;so lost someone really close to me a year past in april who took less than a g and choked on her vomit lying next to me in the bed! The gear i was getting was great pre drought

i live in hamolton and i score off two people, one of them doesnt do weight but i can get a gouch of it and the other i have to sacrifice quality for the ability to buy weight. i was also scoring oz's off a guy in wester hailes in edinburgh. a contact i met inside and it was great got it three times then he gave me an oz of shit. i was phoning to take it back and they wouldnt answer so i bet you know what i done! i wouldnt have sold it so i punished it!! and told him to fuck off for the money knowing my family etc he cut his losses! he did admit he knew it was shite so deep down i know he done me wrong and reading between the lines of our convos i think his wee delivery boy got a habit and was cutting it and fucked this batch right up through either stupidity or greed.

i like you trip dont think it will ever ever go back to how it was or if it does you will pay through the nose like i was doing. As a dealer now they will see that people are accepting and paying for the shit. so what reason do they have of putting out gear say ten times better for the same price. Only way that would ever happen is if people boycotted the shite and thats just not possible for some!

Same happened with hash and pills in this country! i can mind hash was so fucking cheap then there was a proper drought and when it came back it was super dear. i dont know what price it is now but i know it stayed alot more expensive than say 5 years ago

i suppose we will all live in hope tho

in the meantime does anyone in the uk have any pointers to what OTC things i can use to potentiate a god gouch alot of stuff i've read seems to be for the US market

Thanks troops

p.s well done cazamac! good to see a fellow scot getting of at the old glasgow sherrif!

FTS as you said

all the best folks
 
@soccertrendy

I stayed in Bridgetown cross about 1999 , with a habit , in one of the tower blocks that overlook Parkhead , mad as fuk seeing as it's such a Proddy area.
The gear was fukin dynamite back then , i had a script in Dunbar for 56 10mg diaz n 14 20mg temaz a week i used to catch the train to Dunbar once a week n cash it n bring it back to Glasgow where i could get £2 for 1 20mg temaz or swap for gear, i used to score in the Salt market , most of the time its not as run down as it was then .

I remember scoring n having a dig in a nearby pub n going over , the landlaord called a taxi ,, cos i had ££ in my top pocket proper fukin trainspotting style:|
When i got to the hospital they gave me the Naloxene n just left me in the coridor so i discharged myself i was still fuked took me hours to get back to Bridgetown.

my uncle wasnt daft
obviously not but he must have done summat daft to get lifed off no ? Curious , you don't have to tell me obviously , pm me if u don't wanna put it up here.
 
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This is my theory. All it takes is a couple street level dealers in your area to start putting top gear on road to grab all the punters then the other dealers would have to up there game to get a share off the market. I think the problem atm is that there is not as much money in it as before the drought. it also has gone up in price, so the dealers will only buy the cheapest gear to make as much profit as poss. Coz there is good gear out there but its much more expensive. And the greedy guys who have the good will bash it to fuck for maximum profit. Thats why i try to score of dealers who use as then there try not to get any shit gear to smoke for themselves. But then sometimes these dealers dont have access to good food. In general the blacks usually get shit coz it goes through so many hands and only worry bout profit, they might get lucky once in a while. While the asians and turks goes through less hands. Plus theres much more users who use in the asian than the black community. I'm talking bout mainland not ireland.
 
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