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Regional Heroin Discussion v12 aka. Get yer junk out - Still no pricing please.

Struggling to find tangible points here Charles but I'll give it a go anyway.

charlie clean said:
In real life, I don't think I'm 'biased' against anyone; as a 'junkie' I know quite a lot about being biased against.
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This was my point about the snobbery. If we're all just victims of conditioning, which we are, then we need a little more understanding, not condemnation ("wouldn't let my daughter marry him")

I don't 'fight' for anyone. In support of someone, perhaps, but not for any abstract or to be anti-something.
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Fight for/in support of. You say tomato, I say tomato. And lets not categorize anyones fight as a simple 'anti-' when the alternative is buried hidden under distortion and lies. I think its fine to be anti-capitalism without having a clue as to what the alternative might be. I think its fine to be anti-prohibition without having a 10 dollar/point Marshall plan setting out the road to Oz. Our fights are necessarily abstract exactly because we have nothing concrete to replace them because 'there is no alternative'. The abstract is the alternative.

I don't think I'm 'superior' and know I'm no more important than anyone else. Nor inferior, unless I'm afraid.
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Or Welsh. (private joke for the Welsh there)

We all have specific capacities and when you fill the spectrum, you've a community. You agree? I'm conditioned. Aren't you? At times, I've behaved in ways I perhaps wouldn't have but for the dope. Haven't you?
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Not sure of your point here but, if it's the power of conditioning we're talking about and its 'dope' vs 'the dominant culture' then yes I see large parts of my life as a constant battle to unravel the lies of our masters. The power of dope to condition us is puny in comparison. If conditioning is like a bike ride then dope just takes me through the park on a sunny day. The dominant culture has that to the power of a billion - enough to rocket me to the moon. Except then they try to make me buy/sell/advertise said moon.

Of course it's the law, not the drug, that makes 'junkies' - that's at the heart of what I'm on about - but, other than appreciating it's not that easy, I've no idea what to do about the drug laws or treatment. Or anything you can vaguely term 'political'. Have you?
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What is to be done Mr Lenin?

I have 'vague' ideas what to do about 'political' problems yes. But I've left my tank in Tirana. Many years ago. So for now we fight, scratch, kick, thump (a copper) and generally 'put our ideas out there' on this not-so-obscure drug site. The water ripples. Its all we have. Information. And BL > FB. Etc.

('Etc' is for the internet generation. "Thanks etc" - Rosie, Corrie)

In everyday 3D, I think my reaction to you can say more about me than it does about you.
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Always. This is the nature of our beast.

In cyberspace 'you' exist only as an extension of a 'me' which doesn't exist either. You can 'cut down' people, as you may want to in a nightclub. There, fear of a violent reaction, of stupidity, will stop you; online, you're freer.
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And that's why I'm here. Hopefully that's why you're here too. Its a new technological battle to influence psychology and humanity. We can get away with more here than we can face-to-face. Its the biggest single step for mankind that Internet Armstrong has made. Indeed, the internet is the only taste of freedom I feel we've ever been allowed outside drugz. Which aren't allowed anyway.

I just want us all to wise up.
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We the same.

I'm student, not teacher and so are you.
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Labels are just labels. The best teachers come to learn too.

You have no face but the one I give you, which has to be an aspect of the same face as you give to me. We're alone with metaphysics, first love of all poets, and the information. I know nothing, same as you, and the best for which I may hope is to serve something of which I know nothing.
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And here we're in 100% agreement dancing around the cherry tree in the land of Oz (not Aus).

In cyberspace, it's a different sort of dynamic, without eyes, ears, smell or weather. I could be a bank clerk in Sheen and you a dyke in Damascus, we create an idea of our fellow posters from a balance of informational probability, our projections and imagination. We can, consciously or not, shade our personalities - to appear a winner, to pull that girl on Facebook or for a hundred other reasons; we create an image in hope of it earning a desirable response. In service, the desirable response is not for your personal benefit.
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Aren't dichotomies great?

The dope isn't a 'pain' killer, just makes it you don't care so much or, at times, at all. Have I got the right you? What's your service, how do you rank? Where you going, where you been,
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Ooh ooh I see an excuse for X-Clan (for Brimz)

There's a posse at the crossroads.

So what are we doing on no longer obscure drug sites - looking to score, to share that hilarious episode of projectile vomiting, for 'personal' friends or a sense of belonging? Impersonally, can it go anywhere the Mail readers forum doesn't reach? Don't ask me, it's just the same as asking Brimz, etc. We're stranded and only our kinds of love, nothing else, can set the spark.
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Yes it can go beyond the Mailreadersforum. There's a multitude of reasons to be here (some named by you, some not). Not least information Mr Stranded Prisoner. Not as sexy as the 'lurve' you espouse. But worth more than 'the lurve' in gold.

Keep striking. For Oz.

Now what were we talking about?
 
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The 'marry my daughter' reference may have been outside your demographic - the original rhyme was with the 60's Sarah Palin, Barry Goldwater. I trust you're pro-peace, not anti-war and appreciate the difference. Otherwise, not a lot with which I can seriously (deliberate choice of word) argue. And I can't pick on Brimz, if only because he may be Welsh. I could revive my military man persona on the Telegraph readers forum. His purpose was to show latent fascists where they were headed but, the more outrageous and ugly I made him, the more he was applauded; criticism only came when he doubted his outrageous right wing certainties. That scared me; I felt out of my depth. You can find the same with the 'left'. Dope saves, here could be different. But it's all very embryonic.

Ah, the information. Not to be confused with words. The imagination and the cybernetics of liberation. Sock it to them.

Not much fun scoring these days, not much luck either.
 
This is making for very interesting reading.Im seeing some of the colours of SHM and they are interesting and very tuned in.Charlie I enjoy reading your opinions on things also.Its brings a moment of relief from my general malaise.
 
situations still great for me in glasgow, light sandy rocky gear, burns pure black and if someone were to hit more than .1 theyd likely go over. purest stuff ive had both pd and during the drought...just wish it spread its wings a bit and got into some more lungs, coz from the looks of it the uk. situation is in general shite right now...:(
 
have just returned from norway where i was surprised to find the smack far superior to the shit going about most of the uk.was even more surprised to find out that they have not been affected by the drought to any degree.
 
Sorry, can I just quickly apologize for the most crap spelling of naivete ever in post 246?

I know some of you have buses to puke on but it's been playing on my mind...
 
yeah? ... well it should.

I'm taking it upon myself to speak for humanity as a whole here, and it's no lie that we all pretty much began switching off at that point.

sigh. and you were doing so well n all.
 
I just got off the phone to one of my dealers. Had an argument with him about his shite things. I told him he aint had anything worth smoking for a year now and how he shud stop buying the cheapest crap going and he said 'well I'm still selling it and have been for the last year so what does that tell you?'. The honest answer is I dunno what it tells me, I really don't. That there are a lot of deluded people? That maybe they've never had anything any good so don't know any better? Or maybe they just forgot what good gear is/was? I'd love to ask them.

His w's has gone downhill too and he says people are liking that too! The same people who like the shit b's? I know what's good and what aint, I'm not imagining it. But why shud he get better, more expensive things when there are dickheads buying the shit from him?

He used to be a good dealer but I won't touch him now, not until he gets better things and I aint holding my breath on that one.

I'm SO pissed off with things at the moment it's untrue. There has to be decent things about but I dunno where. Norway good, Holland good, Glasgow good. Brum shit.
 
At this rate for me a nice weekend break I'm holland might on the cards with the goal getting some decent gear n having a nice few days gouching out in a plush hotel. In fact that does sound like how I'm gonna use may few days of annual leave before the Christmas period.

Best get looking at some flight / hotel deals!
 
there was a big buzz going around dublin the last 2 weeks about good brown that has landed. i tryed this very brown and its still shite. it looks better you wud swear looking at it that it was back to the way it was but its not. its just more shite i cant understnd how people think this stuff is good? have people lost there minds. i was so looking forward to this new batch but its just another big let down. if i had a bull dozer then i would bull doze the whole of dublin coz its just a waste of space these days
 
Apart from a few hiccps ive been gettin good or very good since december - the only thing that changes is the cost. In answewr to a few earlier questions... methadone will not effect your h tollerance is does as |Brimz explained sit on your Mu receptors so if you have 80+mgs in your system and you take gear you will bearly feel it as it will just pass the B/B barrier and sit on the very few remaining receptors the rest just excreated. Better off waiting 24h.
Small % of barbs are quite often cut with gear as it potentiates the gear but anymore than 5% or so and you will tastes it also a barb hit will make you sleep rather than nod - nodding is (am i teaching grannies etc....) when you are still semi conscious ratyher than spark out.
Im noddin now hence the hour its taken to right this i hope it makes senseascant be asssed to read it back
 
But Blondin, you're lucky in that you live in the heroin reality bubble! I wish I did. I had some gear the other day that had plenty of barbs in it. Didn't like it at all, I don't wanna sleep, I wanna gouch!

Been told of some 10/10 stuff that I might try 2moz. Thing is, the last lot of stuff I got from this guy was also 10/10! I asked him if this lot was better than his last lot of 10/10 and he said yes, much, much better! So does that mean his last lot was actually only 6/10 and this is 10/10? No, it means his last lot was probably 4/10 and this is probably gonna be about 6/10. Bloody jokers!
 
I would suggest that SHM's and CC's posts get moved into a new thread for future reference. Made for some fine reading, that many might not get the chance to see due to the topic of this thread.
 
I'm surprised more of you guys aren't just making roadtrips to mainland europe to score. I know I'd be tempted if I was stuck in such a long drought.
 
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Apart from a few hiccps ive been gettin good or very good since december -
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it seems like blondin and that irish guy are the only 2 people in the whole of england and ireland that the drought didnt effect.

i have mates that have been useing through out the whole drought and they to are happy with what they are scoring. i tryed what they were useing and i thought it was shite. it seems that some people are happy with the weaker brown. i think that shows some people must have been getting weaker brown befor the drought so the drought brown seems normal to them - wat else could it be?

or maybe blondin and irish lad really are the only 2 people not to be effected by the drought - lucky old yous - i honestly take my hat off to yous - wish i had managed to dodge the drought - no such luck for me - the new batch in dublin is shite - its full of pills - puts me asleep - wake me up wen its over
 
At the Begining of the drought november last year, there was a whole bunch off ppl on this thread from london. Have you not notice there dont come on here no more. I come check out the state of the uk and my pm's now and again. Dont know bout the irish lad who you talking about. i can asure you blondin is not smoking shit, bash or weak gear. Dont get me wrong, the drought did effect london, But there was always good gear about. The price went up and you needed to know the right ppl. Also how come's we cant discuss price's anymore and on the cannabis thread they allowed. Double standards on heroin users.
 
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