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Regional Heroin Discussion v. Sweet Sixteen (v16)

blondin said:
fouind a couple of stones before and onve bought a teenth and got a Q. And once outside a club found 1/2oz of hash and 1/2 oz of skunk on the pavememnt
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I reckon that you must have some drug guardian angel looking out for you Blondin.
Its bloody great when you find drugs aint it?
 
ructions said:
Hi Class-A-team! :) How are you?! No you wouldn't normally get 0.2 for €12, although the gear that has been around the last two years should be half the price coz its half the strength!

Class A you must be using for around a year now, its starting to become a habit for you. Even the scoring and smoking part itself becomes a habit after a whle. IF heroin ever goes back to the way it was before the drought you'll see a huge difference in strength. If I was you i'd get away from heroin before its too late. With the gear been so weak now it doesn't feel dangerous taking it, you feel in control. But if proper heroin comes back you'll loose all control very quickly.

Would you not take benzos instead? They are also very addictive but they are a lot cheaper & they are probably stronger the the gear going around Dublin the last two years. Or do you smoke grass (my Son goes mental when I call it grass, he calls it weed. But I think weed sounds very American) you would probably get more of a buzz out of grass & in my opinion grass is harmless. I haven't used gear in over a month, but it has taken me two years to break the habit of scoring & smoking, I have wasted thousands of €uro on weak gear coz I couldn't break that habit.

Sorry for lecturing you class A, but I hate seeing you wasting your money on the crap thats around & I'm worried about what will happen to you if the drought ever ends. Your so young, don't get dragged down by gear before your life has even started! <3 <3 <3

Do you take E's? I used to go out and take E's with my mates when I was your age, now that is FUN!!! :) Much better then hiding in a room smoking heron on your own....
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Hey Ructions, how are you? Glad to hear you're doing well resisting scoring, not an insignificant feat by any means!

You know I appreciate your advice but I'm really very stubborn when it comes to drugs. But I have cut down to scoring every fortnight instead of every week and I'm still going to college and participating in social events as much as possible. This isn't strictly because I want to avoid getting strung out but more so to beat this depression I have. So I think I'm relatively safe at the moment, my habit is stable, and I'm not totally in love with gear it's just convenient.

As for benzos, I do take the odd bit of xanax and valium when I can. They are pretty addictive by all accounts but they're as cheap as chips so they'd be less problematic alright. I also smoke a bit of grass as you call it haha (like your son I call it weed too) but it never hits the spot quite like benzos or gear. But I'm actually a stimulant lover at heart and I would only love to take Es and mephedrone, way more than gear! The problem is I've been on antidepressants for the last few months and they interact with these kind of drugs and it could be fatal. As soon as I'm off them though I'll ditch the gear and start taking E's instead. Some of my friends would take them too which would be cool because they'd NEVER touch heroin and sometimes I wish had company when smoking. I also HATE alcohol with a passion, so I'm limited enough with what I can use!

Thanks for the advice as always Ructions, I respect that you really know what you're talking about! Your kids are so lucky to have a mam like you, someone that they can talk to about these things in a rational way. So many Irish parents (my mam included) view drugs as the demon and yet their attitude to alcohol is way too laid-back. Because my mam doesn't tolerate drugs at all.

By the way, I noticed you were looking for a head shop alternative to gear and Kratom immediately sprung to mind. If you haven't heard of it you should look it up, it's the closest thing to an opiate but I think it has health benefits too, and it's cheap enough. You could buy it online or if you went up Noth you could go to a head shop there because it's still legal in the UK.
 
As a little HR thing, when you register in a vein, i've read that you should release the tourniquet and then inject. Is this essential? Because i've usually just left it on while injecting slowly, then released it, just clocked that i could be doing much more damage than necessary though. Just feels like if i took the tourniquet off the needle would slip out of the vein..
 
Yes, you should always release the tourniquet before injecting your hit or you could cause yourself some damage.
 
Think about it, if your struggling to find a vein and have to use a tourniquet to get a hit, you are cutting the circulation off in your arm. Injecting anything into a vein then increases the pressure in that vein, and if its only a little thin thing the chances are that it will blow, or it will move. Either way your asking for it.

Do you really need to use a tourniquet? Have you tried doing a few press ups or swinging your arm around elvis stylee until you feel the blood rush to the bottom of your hand. Far better practice IMO.

I have had shit veins from years of injecting cyclizine and phy tabs, but since I started just banging gear I have always been able to get a hit somewhere in my arms. If you are trying to rush having a hit the chances are it will take ages and you will have stabbed yourself more times than a tattoo artist. Take your time and feel the vein first, then use a swab to clean the area, always use clean sharps, and don't let yourself bleed. Nurse the site and keep it clean. I may be teaching a granny to suck eggs but by following this practice I can get myself usually first or second time after 20 years (without a tourniquet).
 
A nice hot bath is another good way of bringing veins closer to the surface.
I would either have a hot bath or do press ups or lift some weights for a bit to get my veins up cos without doing any of them my veins were just not on show anywhere.
 
Do they have to be popping out so i can easily slide the pin in at pretty much a flat angle, or if they're visible just below the skin if it possible/easy to hit em then? Or maybe if they below the skin they'l pop out with a tourniquet, but aye, if i use one and register then release, so long as the pins in properly will it stay in the vein when the veins retreat after the tournoiquets been released? Sorry for the probably annoying q's to those without many useable veins left, but i only iv once or twice a month, just wondering these things, better technique now will def help for future :)
 
Please, fuck the tourniquet off, I'm sure hospitals only use them for drawing blood, they would never inject with it still on. and By the time you've loosed it and moved your hand off the plunger there is every chance the spike may have slipped out. Ideally if you can't see the vein but you know there was one there pump your arm a bit, twist it about you will see it. You want to be going in at about a 20 degree angle, you will know when your in cos you will see almost black blood going into the barrel, very little suction if any is required to see the blood. If you see red blood that pulses in the top of the spike you are in a artery.

Also without a belt I think it's true to say you will bruise less, that seems to be the case with me anyway. Is there no one else you know who injects that knows their shit and would help you. If not I'm sure a drug clinic near you would hold safer injecting courses, I've been on one that was run by merseyside drugs council donkeys years back, even got a certificate for it which I'm sure to take to any job interview I go to and is proudly added to my cv.
 
Aye? i got opposite advice a year or so ago when asking the same question! Okay next weekend or summat when i buy some more il try my right arm crook vein w/o a tourniquet,its the only one id stand a chance of hitting without one. If i trtied going in at 20 degrees to get some of the deeper ones that dont come up without hot water etc id end up fucking em up, iv got unsteady handsa nd even if a register i most likely wont stay in the vein.. Ty for the info though, still wondering if i got one of the veins in my upper arm with the tourniquet etc, and registered with the needle fully in,would releasing the tourniquet dramatically increase the risk of the needle slipping out?
 
I would say yes, because to undo the tourniquet you are going to let go of the works and the pressure in the vein won't help.

When I have a hit as soon as the tip of the spike is in my skin I draw back a tiny bit on the plunger, that way as soon as it hits the vein the blood rushes in because of the suction, then I shift my grip slightly not moving the barrel and push slowly on the plunger. No fucking about, in and out. It's just a case of shifting your thumb from one side of the plunger to the other. You don't let go of the works at all and it's held at the same angle it went in at. Easy peasy
 
When i could hit up i would more than likely hold the touny in my teeth and just let go when I regitered - if you keep the tourny in you may blow a valve however if you shoot it in quick and take it off quick chances are you will be ok. I use to have a lovely vein at the bottom of my arm . like a fucking rope that i could just hit by making a fist.....ahhhhh those were the days
 
^hehe i still got that one for now :D, may try next time going without a tourniquet but iv found it easiest to put it on so the vein pops right out (its the only one that does), putting my arm flat and sliding the (smallest possible) needle in almost parallel with the arm, then when it registers in vein shoot it, then release tourniquet. Wouldn't mind hearing some more methods since everyone seems to have their own way
 
I know what you mean blondin, but didn't want to start trying to explain holding the tq with different parts of the body, the guy sounds like he misses more than he hits at the best of times. I've done everything you can think of to trap the blood, the best ones were swinging my arm round then throwing it between the back of my knee to keep the pressure. But it's only when I'm really struggling (on the point of congealing) that I will use a belt, which touch wood isn't that often. Hope I've not jinxed myself.......
 
Aye, i used to miss more than i hit (lol) but hit every time nowadays, just dont wanna be damaging the veins whilst doing it. Course i could find me and old head to shoot up with but 1. i only do it round 1 or 2 times a month, and 2, 2 of the the last people i've been with who've injected (before i did), 1 tried to rob me at knifepoint & 1 died within 2 months of me meeting him (he had multiple health problems as it was)
 
Nah, fuck them shady twats off, self preservation is always key. I'm sure you will find a technique that your comfortable with.. Just be safe and always use your own works, that's the main thing.
 
'tis indeed :), aye im always using my own stuff etc just wondering howe y'all do it, seeing as it seems to vary user to user so far, sorry anyway there's def threads dedicated to IV techniques i'll go lurk them! On topic: Theres shite cut with shite round WY atm, can get a gram for £30 but whats the point if .2b and .2w only gave me a mild rush for my first ever speedball, wheras smoking .1 a few years ago first time i did b had me puking uncontrollably for hours lol.. on the other hand i'm craving an opiate reward, smashed through the stock of methadone i got again :/
 
thattoh said:
I know what you mean blondin, but didn't want to start trying to explain holding the tq with different parts of the body, the guy sounds like he misses more than he hits at the best of times. I've done everything you can think of to trap the blood, the best ones were swinging my arm round then throwing it between the back of my knee to keep the pressure. But it's only when I'm really struggling (on the point of congealing) that I will use a belt, which touch wood isn't that often. Hope I've not jinxed myself.......
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It sounds like that you would be excellent at yoga.
 
Hi folks.
Chanced upon some 15mg OxyContin the time release ones?
Which is the most effective way of taking them? Crush up and snort or
swallow whole? I know we're not allowed prices on here but if someone could give me a rough idea?
Thanks
 
given we can talk about baqs and up to teenths i think 15mg of oxy is probably worth 3 - 4 quid. I take the 80mgs in two lines after taking off the coating and crushing in to powder but the b/a orally is high as well.if you have no tollerance to opiates you might feel a slight buzz but 80mgs is about the same as .3 of decent gear. However are they manufactured by Napp? otyerwise they may be a new time release matrix pill which is very hard to break. if you are unsure or naive to opies pm me.
 
I was thinking the other day about how before I got into heroin I really enjoyed a few pints down the pub and then going out and getting well pissed up at weekends.
Then once I got into gear it totally killed off my enjoyment of alcohol. I didn't even really enjoy a can of lager at home.
Even now I rarely drink at all & if I do drink I'll have 2 cans maximum.
I just wanted to know if anyone else found the same thing or can you still enjoy having heroin and booze?
 
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