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Regional Heroin Discussion v. Sweet Sixteen (v16)

rehab is for quitters.....
did my 3 months in a beautiful place in kent ate like a king .worked out everyday fucked a beautiful woman,left and scored a week later.
Sounds like way too much energy for me, besides when im rattling i just need to scratch my nob, and......well..you know the score lol. It would just be too much if a fit woman was involved.
 
Hope you're ok, out of hospital and make a full recovery, caza.

My bad, thattoh....who was it who went into rehab some time ago when his mum came back from abroad and found out what he'd been doing? I believe his friend posted on here to let us know he was fine and staying off, but that was a while back and I've seen no further reports of his progress since. Anyone with better recall than mine able to put a name to the memory?
 
Hi Caz! I hope your ok?! I must have been very frightening having a heart attack! :( I really hope that you are feeling better now! Take care of your self! I'm just after sending you a PM. <3
 
I can't help thinking that even after a year of use it's going to be a pretty long road to recovery whichever route you take. With only a year under your belt you'll know exactly how good it makes you feel but probably won't have seen and got tired of the horrors that illegal heroin use brings. MMT will depend on the person - could be short or long term depending on the volition of the user. It would also put them into regular contact with health services. Yes, it's hard to come off but a long long way from impossible and can help a great deal. Ideally, one could choose to go to a rehab with loads of compassionate and encouraging staff but show me one of those at short notice that the average user can afford. In the meantime whatcha gonna do? Risk police intervention every day, od risks every day, mixing with a load of uncaring users, no encouragement to stop or question your choices from anyone, rapidly reducing funds blah blah blah...?

MMT can help in some situations as the 'ideal' help is often well out of reach.
 
I have been at this for 30 years and I know nobody who has had a long term habit gone on to MMT and then stopped. For a huge % of people MMT is just a back up when they cant score if you want to stop , and you really HAVE to want to stop its relatively easy either CT for a couple of weeks for a moderate user on it for a short while not too painful - or my prefered method a quick 2 week methadone detox. If you want to take methadone all your life and you will if you get on MMT then you will end up scoring ,cos you can, and if your going to take an opiate everyday why not take one that gives you a buzz?
 
whenever anyone says no disrepect meant,generally they mean the opposite.
how on gods green earth would you know if im trying to increase my count?
i changed my opinion once,for reasons im not going into,and i posted my opinion out of respect for synthetix.
as for me being suspect,have i asked a single person to score for me,where i can score,or any other shit like that,there were 7 other people who said the whole thing was suspect.
and finally why are you named after a bullshit gabba nightclub in pearth,no offence meant??x

and this is the only thread iv actually posted more than once because i was asked questions in it,i think i posted in 3 others,no quite the act of desperation to get my bluelight status.so back the fuck up with calling me "suspect" pal

Whoa, Weegie, wind yer neck in man! Didn't wanna antagonise ya, just playing devil's advocate and trying to illustrate how things can be misinterpreted on t'interwebz.

I admit I was wrong on the post count bit - i read a post from someone recently saying they were trying to increase their post count to become 'Bluelighter' and I thought it was you, but I can't find it now so I must have been mistaken - apologies and all that.

But regarding Synthetix, I don't know the guy at all, but at first you were all for helping him out, but when someone raised a suspicion, you then came down on him like a ton of bricks. Then I stuck my oar in and you changed your mind yet again. Can you see how that might look a bit sus'?

As for my user name, well I don't even know where 'Pearth' is. does it exist? And what the fuck is a 'gabba nightclub'?

So why did you name yourself after a pseudonym for a cock? ;-)
 
thanks for the replies badandwicked and pontifex1 and others. i know my habit is small, it's been around 17 months since first sniff, 9 months since beginning to IV, i agree i don't think wd's are bad enough for replacement therapy (i wouldn't want methadone, from what i've read) but they are still pretty nasty. i put away up to a gram/day, but i recently had a month off and it's been almost sporadic enough (2 days on/day off) to keep things under control-ish.

i only wanted to use the place for needles/vaccine but will go to this induction session and see what's up, they use the SMART recovery programme apparently? predictably, the urge to inject whatever is almost as strong as the urge for heroin, hey ho.
 
I have been at this for 30 years and I know nobody who has had a long term habit gone on to MMT and then stopped. For a huge % of people MMT is just a back up when they cant score if you want to stop , and you really HAVE to want to stop its relatively easy either CT for a couple of weeks for a moderate user on it for a short while not too painful - or my prefered method a quick 2 week methadone detox. If you want to take methadone all your life and you will if you get on MMT then you will end up scoring ,cos you can, and if your going to take an opiate everyday why not take one that gives you a buzz?

Yeah, this pretty much sums it up. I'd only had my first habit for a year when I got on methadone, and I was a model patient. I stopped doing gear, reduced my meth by 2ml a month and eventually got off it completely (though getting off the last 2ml was a bitch). But it didn't last, and now after two more habits under my belt I'm stuck on 60ml/day with no desire to get off it, but I can't even enjoy gear when I do it now due to the methadone.
 
They say it Saving Private Ryan, I think in Band of Borthers as well, I love some of the terms they use in the american military, some of them are very creative, I like Whisky Tango for white trash and November Juliet for coffee, brilliant.

Anyway I'm out don't belong in this thread.

Sorry, I don't get 'November Juliet' for coffee. How does that work then?
 
I have been at this for 30 years and I know nobody who has had a long term habit gone on to MMT and then stopped. For a huge % of people MMT is just a back up when they cant score if you want to stop , and you really HAVE to want to stop its relatively easy either CT for a couple of weeks for a moderate user on it for a short while not too painful - or my prefered method a quick 2 week methadone detox. If you want to take methadone all your life and you will if you get on MMT then you will end up scoring ,cos you can, and if your going to take an opiate everyday why not take one that gives you a buzz?

Well it worked for me so there's one for ya.
 
The statistic that bears all this out is one that doesnt change only 4% of heroin users (over 1 year of daily use) ever stop taking opiate completely.
 
The statistic that bears all this out is one that doesnt change only 4% of heroin users (over 1 year of daily use) ever stop taking opiate completely.

Yeah it is interesting that fact. With the frankly jaw dropping amounts of money spent on so-called treatment and enforcement through the last 100 years and the rate of addiction and "recovery" stays the same. Madness i tells ya. Nice to be one of the minority though. Nearly month 5 and no heroin, no crack and only subs. Now down to 2mg and i think I'll go done to 1.2mg next week. More than anything right now i just wanna be off opiates completely when my child appears next May/June. There's no way in hell i want to do to my child what my dad did to me. I love him to death there days but Jesus, did he fuck my life up (with the added help of me, obviously).

Still get quite a few using dreams though - do these go away in time and roughly how long for you guys?...
 
i have been procrastinating finishing my living room because i know when it is finished i won't be smoking gear in it. the thought of smoking gear is making me feel physically sick. just you wait until this time tomorrow if i haven't had any meths tho. the thought of smoking gear will be the most attractive thought i could have...so addictive
 
The statistic that bears all this out is one that doesnt change only 4% of heroin users (over 1 year of daily use) ever stop taking opiate completely.

I know two people who have quit the gear and then got off the methadone also.
One is my best mate & flatmate he hasn't touched any gear or meth for about 3 years now.
He could even sit in the room while I was using and not be tempted at all. He told me that he knew that as soon as he had decided to quit that he would never use heroin again. The most he will ever have is the occasional weekend valium.
 
i know i can stop.. the thing is those educational ads of the 1980s have convinced me that it is impossible to stop taking heroin once i have started. " i could stop tomorrow if i wanted to"
 
I know two people who have quit the gear and then got off the methadone also.
One is my best mate & flatmate he hasn't touched any gear or meth for about 3 years now.
He could even sit in the room while I was using and not be tempted at all. He told me that he knew that as soon as he had decided to quit that he would never use heroin again. The most he will ever have is the occasional weekend valium.

I dont know a single 1 tbh, it seems everyone I know is getting worse from what I see.

Maybe I should add here i am not new to this game, got 10 years under my belt.
 
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