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Regional Heroin Discussion v. Sweet Sixteen (v16)

TBH the stronger the gear just means you need less of it - you dont get 'higher' Im happy with my stuff at the mo thats must be 45-50% .2 and im in happyland.
 
BlindHelperMonkey said:
kronos; youre right, its probably a blessing in disguise. it doesnt take long slamming gear for your body to adjust and the effects to level off and whereas you can always smoke, you cant always find a vein & smoking never quite hits the same spot again

methadone 'blocks' heroin by saturating your opiate receptors, 20mg is probably ok but once you start exceeding 30mm you begin getting the diminishing returns


i.v'ing is an art and can be incredibly frustrating at times. ive always had shit veins and bad technique/old equipment in my early years led to me wrecking mostve the easily accessible veins in my arms/hands. if you are bent on doing it i would advise sourcing 29g insulin needles and using a new one at max each 3rd break of skin.. this may lead to a big pile of them when youre done but trust me it is worth it, nothing fucks your veins up like blunt needles


i can hit the 1mm ones on the tips of fingers but still have trouble every day. no matter how good you are eventually you will have problems
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Definitely, i dont do h very often, maybe every 2 weeks or so so generally if i get a few bags i'll attempt to shoot half the first one, and when that fails smoke the rest. Used to sniff instead of smoke, but i got 1 batch that was basically inactive when sniffed.. weird, either way though if i manage to hit at least half of that shot the rush & feeling off that bit is better than smoking several, i must be smoking it wrong, plus it frazzles way too quick. In any case glad these are pills, cause i wouldnt dare shoot them even if i'd probably hit, custom pressed pills with cheap binder, it probably aint even h! Sniffing is ace with them though, and when i tried smoking it wouldnt run much, maybe 2mm max or something.

Still it does my nut in that the once in a while i do wanna inject i can't, ending up wasting half the shot (or taking it subcutaneously), blessings in disguises are frusturating :!
 
you think thats frustrating, wait till youre stuck rattling, with a fuckton of tolerance, your only bag dissolved in pin and not able to find a vein. the state of things at the moment is such that im getting higher off the wave of relief that flows through me when i see the crimson liquid rush into the syringe than i do off the drug. want a bit of motivation staying away from needles? google a few long time groin iv users' horror stories and bear in mind nobody who starts iv'ing in arms plans to go down south.. but it is as inevitable as night follows day in the long term im afraid
 
Amen i know its nowt, and i (mainly) thank fuck that i can't do it, i might be cycling down a gentle slope whilst 'chipping' but if i got the hang of IV i'd be jumping off a cliff edge. Anyways i'll stop derailing the thread, but i'd still be interested to hear if anyone else has had experience with those pakistani 'diamorphine' tabs!
 
Happy Saturday friends, fiends and foes.

Day five of my taper. Tomorrow it'll be 10mls, then Sunday 5mls and then we'll see how I feel Monday. There'll be more there if I need it, but I doubt I will. Isn't a cup of tea just that much better after a dose of done? An accompanying cigarette too, I find. Evermore so whilst one waits for ones 40mgs of Diazepam to hit. Is it true that methadone potentiates Diazepam or vice versa? You read so much shit on the internet...I could research, track back sources abd what not - but I feel sleepy.

Mind you, not sleepy in the regard where I want to lie in bed all day - more mellow as the moments roll I suppose - in the sense that I want to just stay inside and paint a picture and write a stanza maybe. I can feel the vague sense of ability for it now, which counters the depression vastly as I feel competent.

Also, fuck hallowe'en and its ability to cause one to almost plan a relapse and justify it by telling oneself 'one turn-on's not going to set me back - and if it did, I'd have foy left for next few days afterwards.'

Other than that, I adore the occasion. Especially with heroin. Much in the way of plans for he event, folks?

Mods feel free to delete this if its vastly off topic, which it admittedly is.
 
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Sounds like you've abandoned the plan to relapse then? It did seem a little strange when you've done some good work thus far, was going to mention that at the time but I don't know you and didn't really want to pry in your business or boss you around.

I'm going to a party which is miles away tonight, it's a birthday not a Halloween bash but we're dressing up anyway.
 
It's not an inevitable progression to shooting in the groin when your other veins go, blindhelper, as long as you can access opiates you can im/sc without the likelihood of infection. (ie something that doesn't need citric). By the time you reach that stage, you're less concerned with the rush than what follows and, probably, eager to prolong your life as long as possible - I'd say around 60% of injectable--script holders who live that long make the switch away from exclusive iv use.
 
When my veins disappeared and they weren't exactly great to start off with.
I initially would try and try for hours to find that elusive vein that would allow me to inject that pin full of goodness.
After several months of missed hits and hours spent stabbing myself anywhere and everywhere and blood running down my arms etc I just had to give up the ghost and revert to smoking my gear.
It just wasn't the same at first and I hated it but eventually I actually started to enjoy smoking it again. The process would take longer and I could sit back and enjoy each lungful but I did still miss that rush and taste of gear and tingle in my head that I got from banging it up.
Just a shame that my veins would no longer allow it.
 
Hi all! :) Hope yous put your clocks back! Has anyone on here ever been to India? If so what was It like? I've heard its a great place to score heroin & opium! I am SO sick of scoring bash that I'm thinking of trying to save the money that I normally spend on bash, and with the money that I save I'd love to go to India! Mr. Ructions is well into the idea as well! In-fact it was kind of his idea, he works with a guy from India & they were talking about India & opium in work last night. The bloke he works with doesn't use heroin, it wouldn't be his thing at all, he was just mentioning it.

I'm just after checking out flights and hotels on the internet & it would cost around €650 each for our flights and hotel! Its expensive, but once we get there I assume that it will be very cheap! We don't score half as much these days, we have really managed to cut back lately, but we're still spending between €600 and €800 a month on gear, so IF we could save that money we'd be in India in no time! :)

So has anyone been there & what is it like? Is it easy to score there? What part of India is the best for scoring? I have to say that I would be very nervous scoring in a different country, we've all seen the horror stories of people getting locked up in far away prisons & ending up in hell! Because of this I would have never even considered gong away to score, but since the drought I have become REALLY desperate! Although it would be just my luck to go all the way to India & find that there is a heroin drought over there as well! 8(

PS. Brimz, how did you get your robins wings to flap? Or did they always flap? I only noticed it the other day! :)
 
ructions a would love to go to india fk their will be banging stuff over their. when me n the bigman went to turkey he was asking the shopkeepers about the brown and my god you should a seen the looks we got a stepped in and played it down and said he was only kidding ,their was polis standing with guns 8( the bigman is always on a mission when we go abroad looking for drugs..l got a letter from kat as you know she is alot better and plodding on think our letters keep her going poor soul eh
SOCCERTRENDY am still here pal dont post as much because am not useing so pop in here n there to say hi and see how everybody doing hope you and the family are well ma friend

OXYNORM you have mail a returned your pm dont know if you got it yet m8
 
HI Ructs,been to India 4 times,its great.Last time i went was over ten years ago and i know its got a lot more expensive but i doubt much has changed .
I've been top too bottom ,Rajastan to Calcutta and loads in between.It has everthing mountains up north,Kashmere ,Himachel Pradesh.Deserts in Rajastan and nice beaches in Goa and Kerala.
Its well safe ,unlike Africa or South America,people are friendly
The only place i didn't like was Mumbai(Bombay)
You could fly then for £300 with Aeroflot.
You will love it,i can reccomend some places to stay and a few tips if you get going ,loads of cheap drugs on the street and in the chemist.
Last time i went i was on the train from Delhi to Goa (36 hours) fell asleep and fell out the door.Came round a week later in a dump of a hospital.My mrs was with me and put an ad in The Times Of India to find me.She woke up on the train and i was not there.Thats another story.
 
@charlie

are you referring to strong opioids like fentanyl and the like? i have no access to any prescribed or blackmarket derivatives strong enough to bother with. thought most doctors eschew handing out i.v formulations of anything, nevermind opioids?



@endless

pretty sure any opioid potentiates diazepam, could be wrong though



@ructions

been covered already but though i have never been, i do plan to as an alternative to thailand etc. idk if he's still about but poppy love a member on here knows his shit about it. apparently two different types of gear over there in the main.. china white and 'brown sugar' which is what the locals use and slightly weaker though still incredibly strong by our standards. supposedly its sold in packages called straws and is fairly cheap. be careful of set ups and rip offs, as with anywhere. taxi drivers are a good first port of call - just dont reuse them or let them know where you will be staying
 
These posts go to illustrate just how strong the pull of addiction can be.
What else would make us want to travel to another country totally out of our comfort zones just for the chance of scoring some cheap quality heroin.
I can't think of anything else that would make us want to do this. Just shows how strong a grip heroin can have on us.
 
There are doctors who'll prescribe iv opiates for chronic users who've failed to curb their behaviour on all other Treament options and thus fit the 'guidelines', blindhelper, and continuing to.shoot brown after all your surface veins are gone puts you in with a shout. Trouble is, such doctors are few and far between and, for obvious reasons, don't advertise. Extreme perseverance is required and, in all probability, a willingness to relocate as well.
 
Is it just me, no other users i know mention this whether casual or heavy but after a mini binge on any strong opiate i always have a pounding headache the next day, maybe due to dehydration? im not sure though i usual drink loads, is this common? And how to fix it? (w/o painkillers ;))
 
Heroin can some times give me a killer headache which is kinda ironic given its one of the strongest painkillers!!
@Ructs why go to india when protugal seems a pretty good bet ,and cheaper to get to - if you do go go to the west close to the pakistan border but tbh there are so many brits out there traveling it shouldnt be hard to hook up.

Ah yes the frustration of congeling blood in the barrel and no vein then heating up the sickly mixture and having another go,,eeuuurrgghh horrible most long term IV useres have been down this road and in ends in a fork - either the groin or neck or back to smoking I opted for the latter more out of being scared and not knowing what to do - Im pretty sure if i had friends at the time who knew how to hit the fem i would have done - still would if it was guarnteed - god i miss the rush and the dirty taste of smack at the back of my throat.

wENT ON A MISSION LAST NIGHT ...Missis went to bed at 10.30 i snuck out the house at 11.30 drove to a couple of places in east london picked up an eigth of the good one and was back just over 90m later, Trouble was I had altready taken 55mgs of done earlier so pointless in smoking any apart from a quick boot in the car to check it - same as I have been getting but its so expensive a tenner a point and even getting a little parcel doesnt really save you that much - but at least its quality so i shouildnt really moan.
 
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if youve found doctors that enlightened charlie youre either extremely adroit or very fortunate. im aware that gp's can already prescribe diamorphine but the vast majority will not for a plethora of reasons. some time ago i went through a concerted stage of trying to acquire diazepam on script with a view to self medicating a heroin detox. i tried five different doctors and the best i got was a 2week taper with max dose @ 20mg. the truth is, justified or not - addicts are seen as second priority behind those with normal illness



with the advent of local drug services the doctors simply demure and point you in their direction. which entertain a cure-all 'more methadone' policy for it seems, almost any ailment you can present or imagine
 
to get a DM script you need to go down the phycayatrist(sp) route - I only know 2 peole who have DM scripts and thats how they got them

The gear im getting is just fuckin awesome its almost like opium in that i get these weird daydreams when Im nodding - yesterday I was at home in mid nod and the phone rang and i got up to open the door as my brain couldn't establish which bell was ringing - all jolly good fun
 
boys a dear, its very cold. bag heads feel the cold real bad. i had a rattlin headache for 2 and a half days, drank a load of green this morn, now i'm freezin and my fella is reloading. brrrrrrrrrrrr
 
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