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Regional Heroin Discussion v. Sweet Sixteen (v16)

Iv only gone and done which took years for me to have the balls to do which does make sense to me is get on a script of poison..i mean methadone...

I never thought in a million years, not even in the drought could anybody get me back opn that deadly stuff, but afterall these yrs of waking up ill, not knowing if i can score or not was soul distroying, i just couldn;t take no more of it..
Its just nice to wake up everyday and do my 40ml's and be ok..
I found with the subs, they were blocking it and i had no intention of giving up just yet

Can someone keep me up to date with kat please, i will write to her, but i was away whenh she had her reasons for going inside which i dont know much about so some info woul;d be gladly appreciated

all the best peeps, keep up the good work

oh and the gear in the big city of the SW is sometimes pointless doing, its just a psychological thing for me most probably
 
Why are people so against meth? Cause of the horrific rattle? & is it possible to taper off with another opiate and not get that rattle? Sorry slightly off topic, say the gears shit for a month so you're on your meth everyday, then you can get good again so you go back on the gear for a few weeks without topping it off with meth, if you quit CT off the b you'd only have (real harsh) b withdrawals right?

Or is it the stigma attached to going to the clinic and being recognized as a user or something? just curious like
 
i think its the longer half life i.e extended withdrawal and the fact its possible to be prescribed/ingest amounts large enough to make coming off significantly harder than your average bag/two bag a day habit




my problem with it however is the fact whilst on it people regard themselves as drug free, whereas in reality you are addicted now to a state sponsored drug - throw in the fact a lot of people use on top thus gaining larger habits and the consequent anxiety of it being stopped and you have your negative reputation, deserved or not
 
the real problem with methadone is that it feels nothing like heroin. (unless you take loads of it, and even then it doesnt feel like heroin. ) well, it feels like that initial dose of heroin that believe it or not is not what i chase. i actually hate the thought of that proper comatose incapable state from early heroin use. the real fun of heroin comes with the pain relief after getting a habit.

charlie, you were very fortunate to get your script saved. crazy that they were going to stop it on you...from suffering the abrupt stopping of gear 2 years ago, i know what it's like to go without.

atm i am terrified of going fast after running into a nervous breakdown.

i also find that the green makes me very constipated and actually makes me sweat, one of me reasons for using gear is the supressed sweat. i am a very sweaty person (no, i am not a fat bird) i sweat loads and loads of loads, heroin does a far better job at stopping me sweating than any antiperspirant ever has...but if i don't get heroin......world watch out, coz my armpits 'll be raining
 
I like the new picture PinkP so there should be no confusion as to what sex you are now.
Totally agree with you on the sweat matter. If I had taken gear I just wouldn't sweat, my pits would stay bone dry.
Methadone makes me sweat loads though. I always seemed to be so much hotter than everyone else at work as sweat would run off my forehead and into my eyes. Not nice at all.
 
Anybody facing the removal of their script against their wishes has the right to a 2nd opinion from an experienced addiction specialist. A detail well worth the knowing.
 
heroin and methadone make me sweat @CK Ive mentioned on here a few times about coming off gear doing a quick 'done detox. As long as you have no 'done in your blood - that means none in say 2 weeks minimum then you stop the gear and start on a level equal to the amount of gear you were taking - for me its always about 60mgs then i drop 5mgs a say till i get to 20 then normally do another 20 then drop 5 a day till i get to 10mgs which is usually where i stop but i have been down to 5mgs but i only do it if a. im on holiday or b. i want ti lowere my tollerance.
 
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heroin and methadone make me sweat @CK Ive mentioned on here a few times about coming off gear doing a quick 'done detox. As long as you have no 'done in your blood - that means none in say 2 weeks minimum then you stop the gear and start on a level equal to the amount of gear you were taking - for me its always about 60mgs then i drop 5mgs a say till i get to 20 then normally do another 20 then drop 5 a day till i get to 10mgs which is usually where i stop but i have been down to 5mgs but i only do it if a. im on holiday or b. i want ti lowere my tollerance.
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How did you work out your methadone to heroin equivilance? I was smoking a .2 a day for about 4/5 days a week and started at 30mls. I'm now down to 10mls which I took this morning and I feel fine. I even took that 10mls late as I very nearly caved - I thought I had to go into town and had every intention on visiting the needle exchange to pick up some works, shoot up in maccers jacks and float around doing my errands and sit in the park for awhile, but it turns out I didnt have to so I said fuck it and just came home and took my dose. It hasnt even kicked in on me yet and I'm still feeling ok, if not a little chilly.

I have 60euros in my pocket - and its mine :) Now I'm just going to wait for my 30mgs of valium to kick in, and have a few games of MW3 while munching on sour fruit pastilles. Anyone want to share their gamer tag? Just send me a PM :)

This is my fourth day without gear now and I feel - if not a dramatically physical difference - a tremendous sense of achievement.
 
Cheers for the info on meth, i noticed that after just a week of using it it was impossible to get past the plateau of effects. Having a week off drugs after this weekend :)

This might be the wrong thread to ask also but has anyone had any experience with those brown custom pressed pakistani 'diamorphine tablets'? They're definitely some kind of opiate, i sniffed a bit a year ago when i had 1 of em and a bag of k in the same pocket (sniffed wrong bag by accident) and i was nodding for a few hours, lovely stuff. Only had a bit then though, have a little bit more now and will be experimenting laters, crushed one and put a little bit on the foil except it would barely run, and when i inhaled the smoke i instantly got one fuck of a rush, so strong that i exhaled again after a sec cause i can't be gouching tonight yet too much to do!
But yeah, anyone had any good/bad exp with em? id guess at them being a diff opiate, illegally manufactured h pills seems unlikely for some reason, from past experiences they do the trick though, i've been told the pills contain just diamorphine hcl and binders. Will update later
 
Do you get these 'brown Pakistani heroin tabs' from the street or via the net, colourful? Never seen nor heard of such a thing but, from your description, sounds like they're worth investigating.
 
Via the net, i bought a few a long time before and they were great, even when addicted to other opioids never failed to produce a decent nod. On the flip side i bought a vial of 'morphine' prepped for IV a few years back, me & tekken strapped up and prepared to blast off aanndd... nothing. Then a creeping headache, gradually getting worse until i was semi concious lying on a bed and it felt like my brain was on fire, he was puking out of the window, fucking horrible we nearly died, next few hours are a tortuous blank.. Now anytime i see that product offered anywhere i give the vendor an earful and they generally remove it :D, also taught me amuch needed lessen to not IV dodgy homemade stuff from pakistan! (except heroin of course). Think someone said to me it mighta been toxic shock which i'd never heard of

Plans fell through tonight so i'm gonna try sniffing a few, i had about 20ml meth at midday how much would this affect it? Hoping these will be decent but got a nagging suspicion they'l be bunk, they're claimed to be 15mg wheras last time they were said to be 30mg.. anyways ima try one now and see how it goes

Edit: sniffed 1, it was so solid i had to hit the thing with a hammer, doesnt really taste like h but when smoking it tasted like a much more acrid harsher yet sweeter heroin taste
 
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Feeling pretty mellow off 1 sniffed, warm and itchier and i got a much higher tolerance than last time i had em, am i making y'all jealous yet? =D, not overly strong though, does anyone know how much the 20ml methadone effect my tolerance levels/how much il feel the 'h', also does it dramatically increase/decrease the risk of od? Cause i'm also on low dose benzos
 
fuckin right you are! Anyone who can sucsessfully inject themselves makes me really jealous, i can maybe once in 10 times, and theres nobody i trust anywhere nearby who knows how to sdo it ti teach me so ibv had to stick it inm i can get the needle in perfectly (26g 5/9) but can never register even if the needles all the way in (anbd notout the other side) nd if get fristraqted and just digaro==irune
Had 2 and feelingg reaally fucing mellow, keep being waked out og nods by my head hitting something, my typings still ok thgough, well readable anyeway, thisd go amaz

Ok that took me 30 misn to wreite, basrically therg ood, ima have a vally and curl into aa warm ball =D

Edit @ 9:30 okay sobered up a bit now, still very sedated and noddy i love it still jealous of you that can IV with ease though, i cant practice or have someone to show me how to do it, or tell me where im going wrong, probably a good thing iv given up shooting for the last few yrs of my veins would be fucked b the time i managed to find one haha

Edit: 2.22am, Just woke up freezing cold and with one fuck of a stiff back, deepest most pleasent gouch i've had for a ling time though just painful to wake up from, this are fantastic intranasally. That imo though, anyone else tried em?
 
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hello everyone

not been on for so long as using my phone to tether and had a content block on it and needed a credit card to take it off!

got so much stuff i need answered but its 5.38 just now so i will come back on tomorrow!

Hope your well cazamac :D
 
kronos; youre right, its probably a blessing in disguise. it doesnt take long slamming gear for your body to adjust and the effects to level off and whereas you can always smoke, you cant always find a vein & smoking never quite hits the same spot again

methadone 'blocks' heroin by saturating your opiate receptors, 20mg is probably ok but once you start exceeding 30mm you begin getting the diminishing returns


i.v'ing is an art and can be incredibly frustrating at times. ive always had shit veins and bad technique/old equipment in my early years led to me wrecking mostve the easily accessible veins in my arms/hands. if you are bent on doing it i would advise sourcing 29g insulin needles and using a new one at max each 3rd break of skin.. this may lead to a big pile of them when youre done but trust me it is worth it, nothing fucks your veins up like blunt needles


i can hit the 1mm ones on the tips of fingers but still have trouble every day. no matter how good you are eventually you will have problems
 
I've not seen you on here for a long time SoccerTrendy,Caz does still post on this thread every now and then.
 
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