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Regional Heroin Discussion v. Sweet Sixteen (v16)

endlessnameless said:
I spoke to a friend of mine I'm hoping to visit in about a months time - she kicked methadone a month ago, and its been 34 days since she used anything - weed, alcohol, benzos - and she feels fantastic. I want that feeling. I want to know I can be a likeable person without having to be under the influence of something...anything.
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Hi Endless! :) Yeah wouldn't it be a great feeling to have no methadone or anything in your system!!! I'm such a long way away from that that i can't even imagine what it would be like! :(

Best of luck with your new sober life, you can do it mate! All the gear is rubbish anyway! Even the new improved batch of expensive gear is nothing as good as pre-drought, so you won't be missing much. But i do understand how hard it is to brake the habit. Maybe this girl can give you advice on how to get through this difficult time? Be honest with her, it sounds as if she's been through it all her self. She could probably give you good help & support! I know its hard, but you will feel better in time! At least you have something to look forward to! Once you stop using you'll be able to save the cash to go visit this girl!!! :)

Be-careful of the valum, i have a few mates who are totally strung out on valum & they say that the W.D' s are nasty! I know that they are probably helping you sleep, but try use them sparingly! Try and take a break from them every few days. Look after yourself mate, you'll get there! Your a young man with a bright future ahead of you!! Take Care & you know were i am if you need me! I'm always up late, so if you ever need a chat i'm there for you! :)
 
Let me echo Ruc's last paragraph. Valiums are for short term use only. I found kicking them mentally far worse than anything heroin can throw at you and, after a certain point, quite impossible to stop cold. Be careful. And don't forget codeine is a narcotic, too, and using it for relief will serve to prolong your withdrawal. Good luck again.
 
endlessnameless said:
a combination of Valium, codeine and hash. I cant handle just the hash on its own - sends me into a paranoid wreck.
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When i was younger i was a Hash Monster! I smoked it morning, noon & night! I LOVED the stuff!!! <3 I'd get up in the morning & have a joint & a cup of coffee! I used to have a big water bong & i'd smoke bucket loads of hash through the bong, the room would be a cloud of smoke! I'd smoke hash with my mates, but even if my mates didn't call around i'd still sit there on my own happily smoking the bong, i just couldn't get enough of the stuff!

Then for some reason i took a break from hash for a couple of years. Then one night after a few years away from the hash i smoked a joint at a party & i ended up a paranoid mess!!! I couldn't believe how badly if effected me, my head was that melted that i actually left the party & went home! I've tried smoking hash & grass a few good times since then & it always has the same head melting effect on me! Even at the start of the drought i smoked a joint to see would i enjoy it, i was looking for something to replace the gear, but i ended up feeling paranoid & awful!

Its the maddest thing, hash & grass is a class B or C drug, its considered a fairly tame drug & yet i know loads of people seem unable to handle it! I think it might be an age thing? The older you get the less likely it is that you can smoke it without having a melt down! Although in saying that i know a good few people my age who still smoke it & enjoy it, the lucky gits!!!

Heroin, give me heroin any day! Even the good auld strong pre-drought heroin, i'd be able to smoke tray after tray of the stuff! BUT give me a blow off a joint & i'm up in my bed with the covers over my head hiding from the world!!! I'm a TOTAL lightweight when it comes to hash & grass!!! WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN?? AHH~AAAaaaaaaa..........!!!! :! Why does it effect some people like that?

I REALLY wish that i was able to smoke hash or grass, its fairly cheep to buy & back when i used to be able to smoke it i used to get a really lovely stone off it! I had some great nights smoking hash! I reckon that if i could get the same buzz off hash now as what i used to get then i would be able to swap my heroin use for hash or grass! How could i get myself used to hash again??? There must be a way!!! I've tried smoking small amounts when i'm sitting at home on my own, but it still makes me feel uncomfortable, also i find it nearly impossible to sleep at night after smoking hash. I REALLY wish that i could get into hash again!!!!!

If anyone has any tips or ideas on how i could get back into smoking hash or grass then please let me know! I'd love to be able to get the happy carefree stoned feeling that i used to get off it! I actually have a bit of hash in my room, i mate of mine gave it to me a few weeks ago but i just put it away in a drawer. Is there anyway that i can stop been such a light weight? I even tried having a few glasses of red wine with a joint before, but the joint made me so paranoid that i ended up necking the whole bottle in a half hour to steady my nerves!!! 8(
 
Ta for the 'pure gold' comment, brimz. Like you, and after 30+ years inside it, I sadly conclude that UK Treatment, with a few honourable exceptions, is rather a bad joke. Seems to have its priorities all wrong and tends to fail addicts badly. In consequence, younger users seeking information, from how best to prepare their spoon to enlightenment about the reasons for their condition, ate better off asking not the doctor but fellow users with the experience and nothing to sell. A ridiculous state of affairs, of course, and one of the reasons why sites like this are invaluable.
 
Hi Ruct's

I too have the same problem with skunk (turns me in to a gibbering wreck thinking i cant breath and im going to die) but on the rare occasions when i smoke hash i just put a tiny amount in a joint and i rteally enjoy it - I meet up with some friends form somerset every now and again and they all smoke every day - all in their late 50's - and have done all their lives, and i get that lovely stone where your laughing and get the munchies BUT they roll really weak ones and it works for them, and me.

Picked up a lump of gear earlier colouir of sand mostly softish rocks nice gear , put about .15 on the foil and got a good buzz considering I had 60mgs of 'done in me from yesterday (25mgs taken at midnight so i didnt wake up sick and i knew i was getting my parcel early).

Im gonna start a new thread 'Heroin war stories' any anecdotes about your using adventures so please add you own - Im gonna try and add one a week.
 
blondin said:
Im gonna start a new thread 'Heroin war stories' any anecdotes about your using adventures so please add you own - Im gonna try and add one a week.
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Yeah this has been mooted a few times & would without doubt be great. People like to read that stuff cos it is real and thge truth is always more wacked out than fiction.
I've spun a few yarns when i did http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/632379-Undercover-Police-Most-ridiculous-disguises that thread.

Its just keeping it within you know the law.
 
yes the treatment for addicts in this country is at least ten years behind holland & other parts of europe. the last time i had an urge to come clean to my drug worker about an increase in use they admonished like they had not heard the like before and moved me from bi weekly appointments & weekly chemist visits to titrated daily trips to chemist with weekly counselling sessions. and yes it was the last time i ever considered letting them get a glimpse of my truth




productive state of affairs
 
Well I can only praise my local drug service. Not because of their incredible efficiency or counselling skill but because they're complete idiots really. They've only ever tested me once in over 16 months and then they didn't send it off for analysis! They take everything I say on face value (come on, I'm a heroin addict in a fucking methadone issuing environment) and believe me when I say I'm heroin free and have been for months and I AM going to reduce my methadone. Soon. Probably. See you in another 2 months...I know most aren't like this though because I've been to many others who are only concerned with getting you off your meth no matter what.

The gear locally has taken a turn for the better. It couldn't have gotten much worse! So good news.
 
^^ thats how it used to be round here, people could and did take the piss. appointments and urine tests could be sidestepped with ease. the doctor was acquiescent and life was simple. then a new government-backed corporation took over services from the charity and the slow machinations of bureaucracy began to tick over. the first i knew of it was when said placid doctor had me in, told me i had provided no clean samples for months, was 'taking the piss' and would be thrown off my script if no such sample was forthcoming the following appointment. i was like wtf, not on rules as rehab should be for getting oneself off of drugs.. but more from his complete and utter change of disposition. furthermore we were warned that there were mutterings of funding being withdrawn en masse and the service disappearing altogether unless serious improvements were made by all. suffice to say fear of methadone abandonment is a much more real proposition to me than it used to be
 
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Naw, hooks, they don't believe you. But they pretend to for a quiet life. Unlike blindhelpers new provider who make up things to force him into acquiescence. May be worth your while to learn about Voluntary Sector providers and Treatment structures, blindhelper.

No easier to get diamorphine privately than on the NHS, Cornish, unless of course you're royalty. But they are more likely to hand out meth amps and other narcotics.
 
Like Charlie said DM scripts are not easiliy available but its pretty easy to get 'done and MST amps. I go cos its a once a month appointment no piss tests and one monthly pick up of tablets not yucky linctus
 
Blondin do you get your methadone in tablet form? Ummm... that sounds much better then drinking green gunk!

Dublin Update

The new better batch has come down in price since yesterday! 8( The bloke who was selling the bags for €25 yesterday is selling them for €20 to-day! He says its coz when he re-loaded to-day he got it at a better price. But i reckon that its coz everyone is calling him a miserable git!!! He still isn't giving any discounts, normally i can buy six bags for the price of five, but this guy charges full price for the six bags.

I swore that i wouldn't score to-day but i cracked in the end. But that really is it after to-day, i've spent money that i shouldn't have! This gear just isn't worth getting into more debt over. Are we allowed to post photos of what we're smoking on this thread? Coz i'd love to show yous how perfect this gear burns on the foil, it 'looks' so so good! BUT its just ok its nothing amazing, before the drought i would have demanded my money back if someone had sold me gear as weak as this!

I'd love to know exactly what is in this gear that makes it 'look' so good & hold off W.D's. It does everything that its supposed to do except get me stoned! Why oh why do i keep going back for more??? Doh!!!
 
charlie clean said:
Another feature of the 'weakness' period is coming up with all kind of ideas about what you're going to be. A surprising number, for example, fancy themselves as future social workers. Best not to commit to anything until your strength returns.
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yeah the madness: because you feel confident again and your not sleeping all the time, you think anything is possible and eveything is great....
 
@Ructions - You mentioned your reticence regarding ordering dodgy goods off dodgy website recently though I see that someone is now shipping from within Ireland negating the risk of cross border customs interest. Seems to have positive feedback with many quoting good value for money so maybe worth another look at least. I'd await the end of Pangea V before ordering though just in case.

@Mods - Hope this isn't sailing too close to the wind with regards sourcing. I've taken care to avoid specifics. Apologies if I've overstepped the mark.
 
@ Ructs

NHS wont script them cos they are easy to make injectable but i just hate drinking the green goo and when yer traveling they are far more sensible.

You would be surprised how little gear you need to stave off wd's - also who knows what your getting? cud be cut with codeine, some kind of fent analogue any opioid/ate.
 
Blake7 said:
@Ructions - You mentioned your reticence regarding ordering dodgy goods off dodgy website recently though I see that someone is now shipping from within Ireland negating the risk of cross border customs interest. Seems to have positive feedback with many quoting good value for money so maybe worth another look at least. I'd await the end of Pangea V before ordering though just in case.

@Mods - Hope this isn't sailing too close to the wind with regards sourcing. I've taken care to avoid specifics. Apologies if I've overstepped the mark.
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Hi Blake! :) Thanx for the info! But I wouldn't bother with the seller in Ireland, i'm way to disheartened by the gear in Ireland. I'd well believe that he/she is getting good feedback, but i reckon that is coz people are so easily fooled. There are very few Irish heroin users who i would believe because so many of them are deluded. I'd say at least 50% if not more people are happy with the gear thats been sold on the streets over here, because it looks good they think it is good. But its not good, its weak!

I think i would be better off saving the money that i spend on gear & spend it on a shrink instead! I have spent a lot of money in the last few days on gear that i KNEW wasn't great! & now i'm in debt again, why would i do something like that??? Why???

I was sitting in my sitting-room last night with my phone in my hand & while i was dialling my dealers number i was saying to my boyfriend "this gear isn't great, its just barely ok, what are we doing?" and yet something inside me was almost forcing me to make the call & go score the gear, i just couldn't stop myself. My boyfriend felt the very same. I feel like punching myself in the face! I think i'm slowly going insane!

I can understand why i scored daily before the drought, it was because the gear made be feel so bloody good! But now? Now??? I give up even trying to work out what the hell is going on in my head........
 
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