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I'm delighted to hear that your getting good gear Trip2TheMoon!!! :) & its a good sign that things have improved in Scotland!! Coz i know the drought hit Scotland very badly as well, so maybe there is some hope for us over here in Dublin/Ireland. Things improved slightly over here for a while but they were never brilliant, but things are just really bad again now.

You are so right in what you say about boycotting the bash & all of the users that know the difference between good gear & bad gear have stopped using here in Dublin, but you'll always get a few people readily handing over their cash for bash, thinking that their getting 'fire'..

But its great news to hear so many good reports from Sunny Scotland!! Hopefully some of it will make its way over here soooooooon!!! :)
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Over Christmas and new year, through the winter and into early spring there was absolutely nothing here. There was still some dealers in action but what they were punting wasn't kit. Through those months I saw some weird shit being sold as gear. I once got a tenner bag that when smoked had bits hardening in my mouth. I picked a bit off my tongue (the bit was white) and I stuck it on the foil and ran it and it ran clear like water. I had know idea what it was but it wasn't gear so I crumpled up the foil and binned it (I'd never done that before). When I unraveled the tooter it was covered in a brown powder which looked like make up. Anyone any idea what that coulda been?
 
trip2themoon said:
Over Christmas and new year, through the winter and into early spring there was absolutely nothing here. There was still some dealers in action but what they were punting wasn't kit. Through those months I saw some weird shit being sold as gear. I once got a tenner bag that when smoked had bits hardening in my mouth. I picked a bit off my tongue (the bit was white) and I stuck it on the foil and ran it and it ran clear like water. I had know idea what it was but it wasn't gear so I crumpled up the foil and binned it (I'd never done that before). When I unraveled the tooter it was covered in a brown powder which looked like make up. Anyone any idea what that coulda been?
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make up,maybe?
i've seen that used to cut gear
 
kkattastic said:
the rot seems to start life looking like mine did-which was a chemical burn(the black scab)
then mine became badly infected making my arm look like popeye's
once the scab came away they would cut away the rotten tissue usually twice a day
to that point it looked like mine
but with iv antibiotics mine healed and is just a scar of about an inch now
theirs appears to carry on rotting which makes me wonder if it isn't something to do with the lighter fluid/household cleaning products that they use to make it all happen,that makes it so bad
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Wow, that sounds like it can't have been much fun for you at all. I know you said you have a scar but at least you still have your limbs. Yeh, kind of makes sense that some of the other things they are using to make it have a seriously bad effect.

On that Russian stuff, am I right that it isn't a good idea to inject codeine. I vaguely remember reading something that it's not safe to smoke or inject? If that's the case maybe slight fails in the cooking of it could be aiding in killing people?
 
trip2themoon said:
AFAIK it's not the rush so much they do it for, it's because they are mortally afraid of its rattle. It increases the body temp to the point of fever, convulsions and a rattle much worse and weeks longer than a heroin rattle. I've heard it can last a month. They'd rather rot their bodies than suffer the agonising rattle that Krokodil induces.
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that is just russias goverments barbaric veiw of drug addicts they would rather them be dead than proping up society. there is no methadone clinics in russia at all. The green is illigeal there so forced rehab chained to a bed with bread and soup twice a day. Then there is us in the uk moaning we want diamorphine scripts
i dont think they are scared of the rattle you could just do gear at 30 $ a gram but that desomorphine has a 4 hour half life tops so it would be inject,sleep,wake up cluck,inject repeat . Some russian drugs tzar is demanding life sentences for drug dealers at hard labour camps medieval drug laws puts the usa to shame.
things still shit by me unless you are willing to pay 120 pound a gram which takes the piss . no sign of it improvement any time soon thing is the gear is the same who ever you score off fed up with it
 
it is safe to inject but to much can give a big istamine attack most people take it oral style never heard of smoking codeine unless there is some type of codeine base like morphine base.
 
Aaaah, I didn't know it was even worth injecting. I thought it had to pass through the liver. Meh, you learn something new every day!
 
Glitched said:
Aaaah, I didn't know it was even worth injecting. I thought it had to pass through the liver. Meh, you learn something new every day!
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ive never heard of it being injected either but have read stuff on te internet ive done 15 30 mg /500 apap in a cold water extraction a few times and it didnt really do alot at all but do know that codeine can be synth into a crude heroin with a little knowledge and a few chems .
glitched where in the uk are you from ?
 
Desomorphine is actually a synthetic morphine that is no more harmfull than normal morphine.
Krokodil is crude homemade Desomorphine containing such niceness as iodine and sulphur8(
Also the amount that has to be used to get a hit is up to 20ml iv thats like 20 full 1mills i suspect they must use 10ml barrrels .
Its a rotten situation n one wonders what else goes on in Russia , as the Government are unlikely to let the whole truth get out.
 
4x4ledbury said:
that is just russias goverments barbaric veiw of drug addicts they would rather them be dead than proping up society. there is no methadone clinics in russia at all. The green is illigeal there so forced rehab chained to a bed with bread and soup twice a day. Then there is us in the uk moaning we want diamorphine scripts
i dont think they are scared of the rattle you could just do gear at 30 $ a gram but that desomorphine has a 4 hour half life tops so it would be inject,sleep,wake up cluck,inject repeat . Some russian drugs tzar is demanding life sentences for drug dealers at hard labour camps medieval drug laws puts the usa to shame.
things still shit by me unless you are willing to pay 120 pound a gram which takes the piss . no sign of it improvement any time soon thing is the gear is the same who ever you score off fed up with it
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The places with the higher amounts of Krokodil/Desomorphine abuse tend to be the more remote and isolated towns where the heroin supply is patchy and sporadic. They use proper when they can but move back on to Krokodil when they can't. I didn't know about the Methadone supply/prescription (or lack of) in Russia. That is horrble, you'd barely believe that Russia is a European country. The life expectancy of a Krokodil addict is 12 months to three years. Sometimes I forget how lucky I am to have a decent wee stockpile of Meth'.
 
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brimz said:
Desomorphine is actually a synthetic morphine that is no more harmfull than normal morphine.
Krokodil is crude homemade Desomorphine containing such niceness as iodine and sulphur8(
Also the amount that has to be used to get a hit is up to 20ml iv thats like 20 full 1mills i suspect they must use 10ml barrrels .
Its a rotten situation n one wonders what else goes on in Russia , as the Government are unlikely to let the whole truth get out.
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I watched a vid of a girl getting a Krokodil hit into her neck and the syringe was like the syringe that was used to administer my IV urogram when I had to have a kidney x ray. It had a circumference of a 2 pence piece and about 4 to 5 inches long. I was like WTF, why is he using that giant syringe on her?
 
trip2themoon said:
I watched a vid of a girl getting a Krokodil hit into her neck and the syringe was like the syringe that was used to administer my IV urogram when I had to have a kidney x ray. It had a circumference of a 2 pence piece and about 4 to 5 inches long. I was like WTF, why is he using that giant syringe on her?
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also one can loose a leg n get away with it but your head ? when thats gone your defo fuked.
I would imagine that they would use whatever kit they could get their hands on , its not like they can jus pop down the needle xchange like us .
 
4x4ledbury said:
it is safe to inject but to much can give a big istamine attack most people take it oral style never heard of smoking codeine unless there is some type of codeine base like morphine base.
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Glitched said:
Aaaah, I didn't know it was even worth injecting. I thought it had to pass through the liver. Meh, you learn something new every day!
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If both of you are speaking of Codeine, then you could IV it but that's only if you want to get a massive, massive Histamine release with the risk of an Anaphylactic shock causing a Pulmonary Edema, amongst other things.

To wrap up: It's very dangerous. So don't do it. Same goes for Dihydrocodeine
 
Yeh, I thought it was a bad idea from what I had previously read.

Just for the record, I wasn't thinking of doing it (have a huge needle phobia, can't even bring myself to inject hear, have to smoke it) I was just talking theoretical. :)
 
Can get gear in a rock solid lump from Bath and it has that 'smell' to it but it still is pretty shit. Dark bettle and stinks of proper gear but you need to smoke at least 0.5 to get anything near a nod. I cant really be fucked with it to be honest, it's still not proper even though it's the best thats been about for ages. Some odd stone doing the round too -it's a hard dry bright white lump but if you put pressure on it turns into dampish bitty powder. Fuck it, fuck it all...
 
hello every body!! its all been sound here for months, and im a much more sane person than i was all those months ago.. its hard to believe that there is still a drought going on elsewhere... just gotta get a new job.. does anyone else find that the world is full of wierdos all over the place... my neighbour has suddenly declared ownership of the garden after 7 years, im not happy, but thats something toget stuck into, either the council reduce my rent or give me half the garden, simples!!!! need somewhere to grow my crop of poppies....brimz, get many pretty flowers this year? zara police are ooo!

honestly everyone here really helped me this year when my head was gone!!! september already... nearly a year since the great H drought started, would you believe it... i had got used to it and then it came back again all good
 
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