Regional Heroin Availability v11 - Price discussion removed

[thebigman]

still nothing that good about , i thought it would have been well back to normal by now
something is telling me this is the norm from now on, lets hope not

 

[thebigman]

this thread has slowed right down.
is there any good tackle about at all . i know its up and down here in glasgow , sometimes i hear there is a good bit about but it does not last long
ructions says there has been nothing in ireland since this all started , but whats the rest of britain like recently?

 

[hooks]

In S Brum, I know of nothing about worth smoking. If I travel to N Brum then there's 1 bloke selling half decent shit but that's your lot. In Cannock and Wolves as far as I know it's all pretty much shite. Not looking up just yet. Better than at the start of the drought (Dec,Jan) but still shit I'm afraid.

 

[class-a-team]

ructions says there has been nothing in ireland since this all started , but whats the rest of britain like recently?

I might be a Greenlighter, so I've no right to flame, but can we just clarify that Ireland is not part of Britain?

And it looks like the drought here might finally be over, judging by the 12 kilo seizure in Kildare today.

 

[ructions]

Hi Bigman yeah things still bad in Dublin. So bad in fact that when i rang a dealer last Thursday & he told me straight out that the gear he had was rubbish! The weird thing is there is a big story in the papers over here to day about 2.4million euro worth of heroin bust just outside Dublin!!! The same thing happened about 8 weeks ago although the last time the police got around 1.8 million euro worth of heroin.

I reckon that its all just bash that the police are finding coz there is no shortage of heroin in Dublin, but its all just really low grade rubbish. So i think the first bust 8 weeks ago was just bash, but i wonder what the gear found last night was like?

But things have never improved here, of course you will hear the odd person claiming that they can get pre drought gear, but anytime i heard that in the past i ran out to get some & every time it was just more of the very same rubbish, i can't understand way people were claiming it was good? Is it just that they don't understand what proper gear is like? Or is it that it makes them feel good to pretend that they can get something that others can't get? Either way its a stupid thing to do & it causes other people to waste their money.

Most of the people that i know who use would be in their 40's & using for many years, & practically all of them have stopped using all together, i too have stopped using. The only people i have heard of using lately are casual users who don't have a habit, & luckily for them they could use the crap thats around day & night & they still won't get addicted to it, although they will very likely get strung out on benzos with out even realizing that they are taking benzos, coz thats all thats in the gear over here!

I'm beginning to think just like you Bigman, maybe this is as much back to normal its gonna get! Oh NOooooooooo.............

 

[ructions]

I might be a Greenlighter, so I've no right to flame, but can we just clarify that Ireland is not part of Britain?

And it looks like the drought here might finally be over, judging by the 12 kilo seizure in Kildare today.

Class a team there is no shortage of gear in Dublin but whats here is all very low grade, its probably just more bash that the garda have found!

 

[class-a-team]

Yeah probably. I'm sure you know what you're dealing with anyway! Would you ever be afraid that the quality might never return to what it used to be, like so many other drugs here?

 

[ructions]

Yeah probably. I'm sure you know what you're dealing with anyway! Would you ever be afraid that the quality might never return to what it used to be, like so many other drugs here?

I beginning to think that very thing! This years poppy harvest started a few months ago so i would have thought that there would be good gear around by now, but there is not. Things got better in the UK for a while but its so strange that things have gone bad over there again now, Its a never ending nightmare, 9 months of this & counting........

 

[ructions]

I copied & pasted this from another forum, someone called Jon-q posted it. Its interesting to read about how up & down the heroin purity is across Europe over the last few years! It proves what Brimz has been telling us about Portugal!! I think i'll go there on my next holiday!!!


Re: heroin purity across europe by Jon-q.....

Finding accurate figures for heroin purity across Europe isn’t easy, it’s proving difficult to get access to individual counties figures for Heroin seizures and purity levels on a year by year basis, also differentiating purity levels for street deals through to customs seizures is becoming a tad time consuming and annoying.

Anyway we aim to please so go with what I’ve got for now and either i or somebody else will add to it at a later date.

In 2002, the average purity of brown heroin at street level in the EU varied from 10 % in Luxembourg to 43 % in Spain, while the average purity of white heroin ranged from 7 % in Estonia and Finland to 75 % in Norway. Up until 2006, heroin purity has fallen or remained the same in most EU countries. In 2001, the purity of brown heroin increased in most countries reporting such data (7 out of 10), but this trend was reversed in 2002 when substantial declines in average purity were reported by five (out of seven) countries: Denmark, Luxembourg, Portugal, the United Kingdom and Norway. The average purity of white heroin at street level declined in both 2001 and 2002, but time trend data are available from only three countries (Denmark, Estonia and Finland).

In 2008, the mean purity of brown heroin tested ranged between 15 % and 30 % for most reporting countries; lower mean values were reported in France 11 %, Austria retail only, 11 % and Turkey retail only, 7 %, and higher ones in Bulgaria 31 %, Portugal 32 %, Romania 43 % and Norway 31 %. Between 2003 and 2008, the purity of brown heroin increased in eight countries, while in four others it remained stable or decreased. The mean purity of white heroin was generally higher 30–50 % in the few European countries reporting data.

Most of this information comes from The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (Annual report 2004: The state of the drugs problem in the European Union and Norway) and The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (Annual report 2010: The state of the drugs problem in Europe)

The data throughout Europe seems to mirror the data in the UK, purity rises and falls year by year are very similar when looked at on the whole, it seems the UK has been blessed with above average purity levels of Heroin base with an average of 30-40% for the last decade or so.

It now seems that our run of good fortune has cometh to an end; as we all know purity levels have plummeted over the last 2-3 years and it doesn’t seem set to change dramatically anytime soon.

 

[charlie clean]

What's the site, Ructs? Unless it's one of the 'secret' ones that have sprung up over the past year or two. Underground in cyberspace.

Heard Bulgaria and Romania were pretty good places for heroin fanciers but have yet to meet anyone bold enough to make personal investigation or to see any BLers from either country.

 

[Double.UO.Globe]

new member from teesside uk. have lurked for a few years (and mainly just read these availability threads recently). heroin user since 2004. solid since 2007. tooter mainly but also into pin a bit since last year.
stuff round here gradually getting better, or towards what it was pre-drought. i've either been getting the grey stuff or dark sand coloured stuff mentioned, and it's mostly been ok > pretty good. it's still a way to get back to what it was though and still keep on getting odd stuff with too much bash in - blocking in works and awful on the foil. i can't tell you how much i'd love to have some proper fishy stuff on the foil again!
the stuff was so bad around here when the drought was fully on pretty much anything would be better than that. i really wish i'd proper tryed to lay off when it was on - what a waste of money! gutted now.
also scored in chapeltown in leeds a few months ago and although it was nowhere near as good as what i got there few times pre drought (that was fucking great!), it was still decent grey-ish stuff that was ok on foil and in works.
would def like to know of any proper decent stuff round here ...

 

[brimz]

Interesting article Ructs.
Ime street gear in Portugal is very high quality compared to the U.K. More consistent and easier to obtain even if you are not Portuguese , if u were scoring at street level in the u'k like i have in Portugal u would be lucky to get anything !
Only other place i can really comment on is Spain , where i've had personal experience of scoring n it was decent gear but a bit more dodgy , mind u Scoring rarely takes u to the nicest place of a City

 

[kkattastic]

Interesting article Ructs.
Ime street gear in Portugal is very high quality compared to the U.K. More consistent and easier to obtain even if you are not Portuguese , if u were scoring at street level in the u'k like i have in Portugal u would be lucky to get anything !
Only other place i can really comment on is Spain , where i've had personal experience of scoring n it was decent gear but a bit more dodgy , mind u Scoring rarely takes u to the nicest place of a City

I would hate to have to try n score in a foreign country where i don't know the language,the local scene and etiquette or the state of the prisons
my daughter is in turkey and she said she wasn't gonna smoke weed while she is away
i said it was a good idea as i'm pretty sure turkish prisons aint up to much
talking of my daughter;one of the main reasons i started gardening was cos she told me her dealer also sells smack
that scared the shit outa me-i know if she dabbled she would wind up like me
but i can't tell the courts i was doing it to support my kids-they don't look kindly on that
but at 17&18 i would rather they smoked a little weed than drank booze

do we believe in the genetic predisposition to addiction?

 

[brimz]

yes i do ,

 

[hooks]

Ha, if I told my parents that it was their fault that I am a baghead they'd hit the fucking roof! Teetotalers who don't smoke or do owt like that. Dunno about my grandparents, they're long gone, one of 'em in the war.

 

[Double.UO.Globe]

the only foreign country i've ever scored in was slovenia (the capital ljubljana) at like 2.30am on a wednesday morning. turned out to be pretty easy once i asked the right person (who was stood outside of the club i was at looking filthy and nodding out!) but i'd been asking around for it since like 6pm and was pretty much ready to give up. i'd ran out of what i had that morning (over-indulgent holiday mode) and was totally starting to rattle by the time i had found someone - hot and cold like fuck, the shits, everything. stuff turned out to be ok thankfully and did the job (but think it would've been better digging than smoking but i wasn't on the pin then). what you got for 20 euros over there was about a tenner here. i got enough to last me another couple of days. thankfully had some green for the rest of my trip.

 

[Double.UO.Globe]

Ha, if I told my parents that it was their fault that I am a baghead they'd hit the fucking roof! Teetotalers who don't smoke or do owt like that. Dunno about my grandparents, they're long gone, one of 'em in the war.

no shit.
mine are absolute teetotalers too, to the extreme.

 

[kkattastic]

my daughter is so much like me
i know she couldn't dabble and just shrug it off

 

[strungout2010]

I just hope my doughter inherits the addict gene , so I can take her fuckin gear !
Only joking , I'll beat her with a stick and put her in the shed. Lol. !!!

 

[thebigman]

that would kill me if my boy started takin brown , i would blame myself.
but i think i would be more pissed off if he started smokin hash , i blame that stuff for ruining my life and i started to take epileptic fits too, but once i stopped smoking hash iv never had a fit since ,10 years.