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Hi Griffin :) Holy crap! thats a lot of gear they seized there!! But it just shows that there is plenty of gear on the move!!! Why is it not making its way over to this kip? GURRrrrrr.......!!!! :! Although it probably is making its way over here, but the dealers are just cutting it RIGHT down coz they know that people are desperate & that they will buy anything at this stage!!

Any news your end Griffin? Did you score at all this week? Where you in Dublin? If so was there any improvement at all? I noticed a fairly ok improvement last week (compared to what we had been getting!) & i was able to get half 8th's, but this week i could only get those poxey €25 bags & the gear wasn't great. Please tell me you have had some luck? :\
 
on the subject of passports...you can travel throughout europe without a passport,theoretically
they stop a certain number of people to check passports...i believe this to be true coming to and from ireland too
you may get stopped,you may not.same as customs checks
I do know people who have forgotten their passports when travelling within europe but had no problems getting in or out of the country
but could be awkward if you were stopped and didn't have one

Hi Katt!! :D How have you been doing this week?! I haven't been away in a while so I'm not 100% sure about the passport thing? I'd say that you might get away without a passport if you were traveling by ferry between Ireland & England, but I'd say you'd need a passport if you were flying. Coz don't they always ask you for both a passport & ticket when you are checking in for your flight? They do in Dublin airport anyway & I've seen people been turned away for not having a passport on that T.V. program about Luton airport, although i'm not sure where they were traveling to on the program? Jaysus, the crap i watch on T.V, i should really get a life!!

I hope everything is going well for you Katt, the drought seems to be a thing of the past for most of yous in the UK. Its still bad over here. Although in saying that i haven't been searching/testing that much over the last few weeks. But there are about 4 people that i know & who i totally trust when it comes to their opinion on the quality of gear, so for the last few weeks i was kind of waiting to hear from them. I only tried 2 other sources, one had ok gear last week, it wasn't pre drought but its was ok, but he ran out of it fairly quick. & another mate had that weak stuff that Dublin is flooded with.

So i'm trying to get my head in a getting clean frame of mind, lets just see how long it lasts.............
 
Ructions Sorry about your bit of bad luck. Its funny, I remember reading a scientific article that mentioned that junkies not on gear are suseptible to placebo effects to a greater extent than the regular population implying that its enorphenergically mediated because narcan attenuated it and a dose of a full opiate agonist. So I think thats could be a factor. But when I was smoking I could uduslly taste the deference right away- or could tell by how it ran- the best dope left a light black or light grey trail and didn't leave any cruntchy stuff. #3 afghan sounds different. The beattle would be black and liquify easily, not remain a chunk that could potenially flick off the foil. The best dope had a bitter medicine pleasant dope taste- sometimes great dope had a vinegar taste but the dead didn't have this.

Anyway, my wife and daughter are doing fine. They are visiting her family in Arizona. They were lucky it was monsoon season. The desert gets most of its rain during the summer and its hot and humid but the lightning and the beautiful colors on the fluffy clouds is surreal.

How is your boyfriend and son doing.

I grew up in San Jose and moved to San Francisco and then San Jose for several back there in the late 90s to get clean.

Anyway been living back in San Diego since 2004. The dope was much better here when I was using than the bay area- they have too many dope fiends. San Francisco has the biggest heroin scene per capita on the west coast followed by Seattle (and Vancouver might surpass San Francisco as might TJ- were taking per capita but there is alot of crystal meth (globitos) and cokeheads/ crack in TJ.

Anyway, San Jose is probably the equivalent of one of the boring suburbs south of London- its looked down on- and it is boring. There are connections and I went to the meth clinic but except for a few east side connects, people in the silicon valley would go to East Palo Alto, San Fransico, or the small eclectic beach town of Santa Cruz which had an open air scene in a part of town called "the flats" which was the local mexican ghetto. San Jose, whoever, had lots of coke and crystal meth especially. What it particularly was know for, ironically, was PCP (KJ, Blast, or lenios). A drug like a dirty longer lasting version of ketamine. People can stay in P-holes for hours. One bit of trivia is that its former police chief, an Irish- American, you should be proud of had the balls to say the drug war was a failure and all drugs should be legalized- he kept his job for 15 years despite his unspokenness on the topic and during that time San Jose ( pop 850,000) was the safest major city in the USA- because he had his priorities straight- he enforced the drug laws because he had to but throwing users in jail was at the bottom of his list.

Anyway i live in the North Part of San Diego county now- used to be by the beach in the diverse beach town of OB, kinda the hippie beach town in San Diego to this beach town. A major Marine Corp base is located here, in our backyard so see alot of marines about town and by the beach- so it was almost culture shock when I first got here. More tweak and less gear up here than Closer to the city of San Diego. Going from Northern California to Southern California (9 hour drive from San Diego to San Francisco.) so culturally it is like 2 states. Southern California is like bay watch in many ways in general- what people stereotypically think of CA. The north is more laid back in many was- it has more counter culture people and politics up there. Its generally a hipper place in my opinion.

good luck if you decide to get clean! You are a good person so you have the gooness and selfless spirit needed to get and stay clean- and more importantly- don't go out of your mind jonesing for dope- being hsppy snd serene is the trick.

About cell phones- I saw a PBS docu today called spy factory about the NSA- they had OBLs position and that of the hijackers address in San Diego but didn't share that info with the FBI. After 9/11, the directive preventing them from listening in to cell phones, emails without warrant was lifted. They have a site were tens of thousands of personel monitor cell phone conversations overseas and found a way to tap internet trafick so they probaly can tap us without and IP adress acording to this meeting. They have satalites, listening stations, data collecting points around the world that get sent to San Francisco under the AT&T switching office- were they apparently also hotwired the cables. So big brother is for real this time. Scarry. They weren't allowed to listen in to cell phone conversations made from inside US soil and internet stuff prior to 9/11 but a secret executive order right after 9/11 changed this as dis the much maliged patriot act. I don't mind going after terrorist but private conversations- its intrusive and it detracts their focus on keeping us safe from terror. When former employee said it made here uncomfortable listening to other peoples' conversations and quit cause she couldn't do it any more.

Is the standard of living better in Ulster or the Republic, or does it depend whether your protestant or catholic (in general?) wondering if anyone new.

Anyway, I was gonna start a thread on the old needle park scene Zurich 1986-1992. Started it in DC but a younger mod decided to change the name of my post- to a boring one but an important one like evolution of the harm reduction model in switzerland. But it has loads of info about needle park and the current system and it compares it to the ones in the UK (whats left of diamorph maintenance and what it was like, and the American philosophy in one of the posts.) She objected to it because the only needle park she new of was in NY/or NJ- here rationale is still there. If you have info please add- I wan't to keep it alive so it doesn't go to archives if it hasn't already- even to say it has a great system in place or info if you can temporaily start heroin maintenance therapy if your a tourist kicking. I know tryptamine was there so there is some small street scene in spite of this progam in Zurich:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=442310



Anyway, here's a post that has some historical info on the Dublin scene that may interest you Irish out there. He PMed me with this back in January. This was Burroughs whom I haven't heard from in a while otherwise I'd ask his permission to post this- don't think he would care. He didn't have info on the 89s Zurich scene but had this:

Originally Posted by jspun
howsit, I like your posts,

Did you ever go to Zurich during the "needle park" days or know anyone that did. If so, what was the scene like, I figure you would be the person to ask b/c your old school?

Hope your well

spun

Yo Spun, I was just about to reply to your post!

I left Ireland and gear in 1982 - it was like the Big Bang - it went from a few dozen Burroughs-type junkies going to croakers to thousands of junkies everywhere. It was getting a bit hairy so I fucked off. I drank for quite a few years, trying to bludgeon the depression into submission. I used gear the odd time but I didn't, and still don't, like more than one habit at a time. I started using regularly again about ten years ago and after a year or two I realised I hadn't been depressed for ages.

So I don't have a problem with my gear habit. I got a "regular job, regular room" as Bobby Hughes says in DS Cowboy.

None about here at the moment though, as you will have gathered. I'm not scripted - I've started to use Poppy Tea instead of buying meth. It's dearer and more hassle but if I up the maintenance dose I can still get stoned. Trying to make it last until payday next Tuesday.

I read Drug War Chronicle and I think you drug users over that side are a lot more organised and vocal - places like Vancouver and Frisco spring to mind. Dublin seems a bit less fragmented than the UK but a lot of them (like here) depend on the state to get sorted. Never mind Heroin on prescription - regulate the opium trade.

I've rabbitted on enough for the mo' - gotta put some sounds on.

Hope to hear from you again soon,

bb

PS are you still in Hawaii?

In the 80s in Zurich after they established needle park in Plataszpitz, the cops would have to give you your drugs back if when they stoped you your papers were in order and they found a bag.=D
 
PS- Beckham's wife gave birth to a baby girl today. Speaking of football. George Best moved to the US during the end of his career. I think ke played for LA first and then played for the San Jose Earthquakes. I remember actually meeting the guy when I was 11 at a soccer camp and being in awe. I remember his breath smelled like straight whiskey when he signed my soccer ball and took a pictur with me. I lost the ball and the picture is probably lost somewhere at my parents. Even though he was up there in age he still played beautifully. He was such a drunk that the police would find him in the gutter before games drunk- unfortuanately most weren't soccer fans so they would throw him in jail rather than give hima ride home or somewhere else,

A friend of mine told me that when he first came to the US he loved it. He would walk around LA and no one would know him. It was a freedom for him to go to different places without a mob showing up.

What I also remember about him at the camp is that he wasn't arrogant- he was a nice friendly, down to earth guy. Anyway, I got to meat one of the worlds greatest footballers which is cool.

Too bad he died from liver cirrhosis- wonder if he would have lived if he found heroin- assuming he smoked it (rather than slaming it, sharing needles, and getting hep C.) I remember hearing about his death in fall of 05'or o6', where they played a taped interview on national public radio. That trip was the trip that my wife and eye relapsed on smoking dope- I was almost tapered off methadone- was down to 4 mg and then shot back up to 40 mg- but never tested positive till near the end- I was through- they were gonna take all my takehomes (had 6 and they were getting ready to give me 13). My couselor who was a former marine was gonna give me 2 strikes- one you loose on takehome for 3 months or a month I think with weekly UAs. 2 and you loose all of them at the counselors discretion- if you coped to it they would work with you. Anyway, there was morphine, heroin metabolite, and codeine. Now tar isn't well processed so there is probably residue from the synthetic process since its already present in opium and tar retains alot of the alcaloids. But anway, he kept insisting that I took codeine too/8) My previous couselor was hella cool. It turned out he was starting a mens group and wanted to get it going by getting "volunteers" so I went and got to keep all my takehomes.

This guy commuted from TJ. There is a 1.5- 2 hour weight at San Ysidro, a neighborhood of San Diego in the extreem south that is the busiest border crossing in the world. Traffickers send, like I said in my previous post, 10 loads knowing customs cant send everyone to secondary to bring the dogs out so 1 out of 10 usually gets busted. The cost I think quadruples, or something, when they cross the border. Then is cut befor it goes North to LA or Vegas were they havea second smaller border patrol checkpoint with dogs that they bring out occasionally- thats mostly for human smugling but they look for drugs too. Then it gets sent to hubs like LA and is distributed throught the west coast, getting further cut along the way. Arizona and Ohio are run by different cartels- in this case, I believe the Sinaloa, thats why Tuscon and Phoenix, and atypically Ohio being so far north have such fire dope from the reputation i hear. Its the cheapest in San Diego per DEA statisticks that are a few yeaars old.

I heard on the news they have special highway interstate 15- a major artery that profiles vehicles that would likely be carrying it so people get stoped at random who meet the profile- very unconstitutional.

last thing about borders- in the early 90s I surfed at a surf spot (TJ sloughs) that is in the last beach town (Imperial beach) before the border. I got out and kept walking south (the border is about 2 miles south amd inland of the beach there is a militar base and border field state park. From that vantage point its tripy seeing the sharp contrast between the devoped world and a third world country. You can see poorly built and cardboard houses on the hills past the border- and tightly populated TJ filled with people trying to cross come right up to the border fence.

Anyway, on my walk I saw about 20 clearly illegal aliens walking past me going north. When I got to the border- along the fense it looked like there used to be a barrier but the border fence (now a wall) ended or was torn dowm. There was a tower there but at that time was unmaned- maybe it was manned intermitantly. Anyway, I walked into the beach in mexico and talked to some kid about my surf board- went surfing just north of the bull ring and walked back with no border patrol in sight the whole 1.5 hours it took to walk down, surf, and walk back.
 
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or the small eclectic beach town of Santa Cruz which had an open air scene in a part of town called "the flats" which was the local mexican ghetto

I remember going to Santa Cruz very well, they have a large Boardwalk amusement thing by the beach no?
I was their with my cousin must have been about 93 n their was most definatley a sinister undercurrent , that you could sense , lots of Gangs of young Mexicans that made me feel quite uneasy.

All the places you mentioned on your post the other day , Lake Tahoe , Frisco i've been to all of them n i agree L.A is by far the least attractive of the lot.
 
Hey guys just been directed on to this thread, from opening one up on the potency of H in the UK market on the 11,7, 2011.Not really began starting reading the thread but will get round to it special thanks to Watsons tornment Okey here goes

Guys I dont know if its me or wethers it the H around here, at the moment there's the tan rocky stuff and when heated a real dark thick pool ball black beatle, better for smoking I will agree.Also there's another fluffy pailer gear which has more off the H taste and gives me more, off a rush type high, I have reason that it was off better gear before it got into who ever's hand before my man, and got cut.It looks almost clearer in the pin, on the foil still a nice dark brown but a little runnyer when heated, this ones better in the pin am sure of it, but wouldn't mind some of this grey cat litter looking stuff just to see what the deal is or what,? I
t just doesn't do what it used to, I have a few examples and would like to know what other ppls thoughts are and if there the same.

Ok been a user for well over 15 yrs now, and I have a tolerance thats apain in the arse.I'm on 42 mls of Methadone and I can tell U now I could used to use H, and skip my dose of Meth, but these days thats impossible,??? the H alone would not stop me clucking for the horrid green gluck, well I remember 10 yrs ago it did.I could miss my meth if using H, but these days I still need to take it otherwise I still feel the WD from Meth if I use on top.

Also I remember when smoking my first 2 lines how horrid and sickly it used to taste and make me vomit all over the place, not a pleasant experience but none off the less that has not happened for years, less and less sticking to my teeth I see to.

Ok a little embarrassing but I could remember if I used even just a 10 bag, there would be no chance of having an orgasm.These days its still possible, now I want to know weather its just my body's thats adjusted over the years , or if its purity has gone so low, now that even after a week abstinent, I have to smoke 2 god dam bags to feel a good nod.What on earth is happening.

I remember when I used to be on 50 mls and using on top ten yrs ago, and me still getting wasted and remember developing a tolerance that when I had my 50 mls of Meth I didn't feel it and needed H just as well if not just H, so this has to be proof seriously,!? I'm just wondering now to call it a day because its just not doing anything anymore.

I'm now reducing and gunna put my ideas to the test and see because basically I think there's so much crap in it these days and so many more dealers about it just gets jumped up and down on every time it passes through someones hands, there's just alot more ppl selling compared to before.

Why the hell has this happened to the gear, it is real frustrating but maybe a good thing to realise that my H days are finally coming to an end we shall see. What are your thoughts, I remember for example my first E tablet was like walking on air, now E is completely diff, I understand nothing ever stays the same, but still would like to know. My last use was last Thursady ,a .2 ten bag of the Dark tan rocky stuff, a\nd yes its been tough have wanted to score but lack of cash has got me this far,
Guess what,??? its payday Friday so am gunna put it to the test wish me luck.And guys seriously I doubt ever off having a chance of OD, whilst smoking on top of 42 mils, hell i'll probably put a porn movie on and just do what I couldnt do 15-16 yrs ago, lol
 
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one of the reasons i use is so that i can 'work' without feeling anything
but then,i work so i can use
so it's a vicious circle alright
numbness is a blessing

i recall about 13 yrs ago the gear literally changed overnight
it went from being £40 for half a g of dark brown powder
to £20 for half a g of pale rocky shit
we all thought,'half price-it's gotta be shit'
but it was ok-and now that,and variations of that are all we get
sound familiar?
 
free drugs fuk yeah!!!!

jus went for .8 n a ten as usual .
waited 15 min , thought shall i divehim anothhr call?

nah

Bang on their no 10s but a 20 instead ,
no money says i
no worry says ....
Safe ,
later.
Back home fukinmassive rok 8o8o

I could give u all a pipe n still have 1 left , i would as well but a tad unlogistical.:)

BTW .... nos that i come cos i want both , i would use next 1 if just wanted H
Also only no. i had of top of dome !!

Bg Snowball brimz Happy n proper nice.<3
 
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one of the reasons i use is so that i can 'work' without feeling anything
but then,i work so i can use
so it's a vicious circle alright
numbness is a blessing

i recall about 13 yrs ago the gear literally changed overnight
it went from being £40 for half a g of dark brown powder
to £20 for half a g of pale rocky shit
we all thought,'half price-it's gotta be shit'
but it was ok-and now that,and variations of that are all we get
sound familiar?

Yeah it does sound familiar i do know were ya booting from, but it just doesn't seem to work like it used to.Is it because my receptors have chainged in the cabbage of a brain I have,? or is it,? Is it now da gear :\ I'll put money on it its no were as gud as early 90's even when I was scoring 5er bags and getting 25+ lines from 1 bag, or is it just me that increased me Methadone to a stage its saturated my recptors totally, does that make any sence. I remember putting a rock of gear on the foils and running the rock on the foil smoking it without it melting for a gud 6-7 lines then turning into a beetle, thats happened only once again since the early 90's.

Brimz =D I can't do white anymore, I gave up and took the option of the lesser 2 evils, but yeah that to was damaging at the time .Ive herd thats chainged also.
 
about three really nice bits floating round bournemouth at the moment, spoilt for choice! Personal fave is really light and turns a bit blue on the foil, apparently cut with rohypnol a couple of lines and nodding away like a good un a couple of mates have pinned it with catastrophic results, definitely one for the smokers.
 
about three really nice bits floating round bournemouth at the moment, spoilt for choice! Personal fave is really light and turns a bit blue on the foil, apparently cut with rohypnol a couple of lines and nodding away like a good un a couple of mates have pinned it with catastrophic results, definitely one for the smokers.

In what way was it catastrophic if you don't mind me asking
 
In what way was it catastrophic if you don't mind me asking

Lots of passing out needles still in body, loosing cash etc. from black out, nothing fatal but nothing fun, these lot are long time users also, definitely the cut although a good amount of h in the mix also. Personally I found it a great nod and really nice pre bed time, bit sketchy when trying to do anything that required any concentration, unfortunately I think it's pretty much gone now. Booo
 
Will benzo cuts be the longest lasting effect of the drought?

Nice to see ya back, Pinks, iconoclastic as ever.

And thanks for another interesting essay, jspun.
 
Congrats Mitch , see it aint so hard to believe that there has been decent gear about for a while now is it ?
All it was son you wern't in the right place @ the right time.
Chuffed for you though , enjoy even if it's for a week , it is out there though & plenty of it !!
My man aint really changed for 2 months, slight changes nothing major but still proper gear.
Anyway's enough chat , gouch away son

well wasnt as good as thought gear wise was great, but after scoring a 1/8th personnel. i went back for a 1/4 and was jumped on by 3 cops 40 yards from my house, they came out of a bush and and one of them spastic policeman, they caught me with a 1/4 . bailed to 30th august. so 400 quid down already and prob fine and probaton or some sort of dto. been out of trouble for 10 yrs so hoping for small fine


hope all are well
 
@ Mitch.

What a fuckng nightmare son , there cunts , do you think they will charge you with possession ?
Like you said I ain't been in any bother with the other mob for 15 years, and just got nicked for D/D and possesion. Only half a teenth though. but it's sickening.
Hope it works out ok mate !
 
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well wasnt as good as thought gear wise was great, but after scoring a 1/8th personnel. i went back for a 1/4 and was jumped on by 3 cops 40 yards from my house, they came out of a bush and and one of them spastic policeman, they caught me with a 1/4 . bailed to 30th august. so 400 quid down already and prob fine and probaton or some sort of dto. been out of trouble for 10 yrs so hoping for small fine


hope all are well

these upsteps in busting small timers and users is shocking
really bad luck to you 2 guys
 
Aw Shit

:(@XMitch

Am really feeling for ya son, i know exactly what your going through! Same thing happened to me about 7 yrs back, only mine was in 4 x 16th's so they tried to do me with intent.
I managed to convince the courts it was persy & i'd got it that way, still name in the paper, fine & all the stigma that goes with it !
Hope it all turns out the best way possible, plus you being out of trouble for 10 yrs & working & all should go in your favour. All the best mate Louie.

On a more positive front, ( even though it dont seem right somehow ) my mate got a call off 1 of our main men before November , who apparently just disappeared . Truth was he was a guest @ H.M. Pleasure , well he reckons he has just got out & he's holding some of the stuff he had before he went away . Also his prices are v. reasonable indeed, so off to meet him tonight & see if he's tellin the truth ! He was alway's reliable before so ........

P.S giz a tx Pinky ;)
 
hey!let's talk about our busts
mine was about 11 years back and the police came thru my door while my kids were eating their breakfast
on the way to the station they point out a young guy who had been to me to buy just the day before for the first time-'oh he looks like shit'
also heard that one of my suppliers had been busted a few days before and released uncharged-very suspicious
wound up with 12mths probation and a small fine cos i told them cos of my kids i couldn't be out scoring all the time so i brought bulk and split it for daily use-they couldn't prove otherwise so had to drop the 'intent' charge-so nobody was wired or filing when they brought from/sold to me
made it into the paper-headline:'woman found with drug cocktail'
basically gear in about 12 wraps for sale,a flask containing about a Q of speed,several chunks of hash and some acid in the fridge i had completely forgotten was there-all the cops loved that i hid it in an ice cream container while i had 2 young kids in the house but even at that young age they wouldn't eat ice cream from the fridge(most ppl keep it in the freezer)
got a job at asda within first 2 months so they revoked my probation after 6
11ish yrs later i no longer have to confess to this shame
 
well wasnt as good as thought gear wise was great, but after scoring a 1/8th personnel. i went back for a 1/4 and was jumped on by 3 cops 40 yards from my house, they came out of a bush and and one of them spastic policeman, they caught me with a 1/4 . bailed to 30th august. so 400 quid down already and prob fine and probaton or some sort of dto. been out of trouble for 10 yrs so hoping for small fine


hope all are well

Shit man , thats fukin lame .
Sounds like they were on you n just wiating , a shit way of using resources.
I bet it cost em loads 2 do one person who isn't really doing owt , a family man ffs , when theirs plenty else real criminals paying off fukin the BENT COPPERS.

What was your breif like ? Or have you got a prefered firm ? Makes a big difference ime .
I've had stupid cops try tellin me not 2 bother with representation b4 , sayin i'd get out quicker , i wasn't havin it at all . Didn't say a word till i had legal advice. Sure u no all this anyway.
Do you no if they got any1 else ? Oft. they do a few folk at the same time. It looks good for em.
Anyway , play the game n all the best ,
brimz
 
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