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Redosing vs. just taking more to begin with

BlueBull said:
Take into account that most people (not all) find out after a while that redosing a lot causes them to lose the magic :) dosing higher initially doesn't seem to make you lose the magic that fast
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^exactly what happened to me. I was a fairly new user, using bi weekly and sometimes weekly, redosing nearly every time I used and I lost all effects from MDMA FAST. I credit that more to the redosing than the use frequency.
 
AnonymousAbuser said:
^exactly what happened to me. I was a fairly new user, using bi weekly and sometimes weekly, redosing nearly every time I used and I lost all effects from MDMA FAST. I credit that more to the redosing than the use frequency.
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Oh crap! 8o

Duly noted, thanks a lot! The last thing I want is to 'lose the magic' when I just figured out how roll amazingly!
 
Prettylights____ said:
Oh crap! 8o

Duly noted, thanks a lot! The last thing I want is to 'lose the magic' when I just figured out how roll amazingly!
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I haven't lost it completely because I almost never redose anymore and I've brought my usage back to a minimum of 2 months between rolls (usually 4-6 months even). But I have lost a lot of the magic and I am sure this has to do with redosing because I am FAR from the only one. I still enjoy myself very much but because of this I don't think my MDMA career is going to last that much longer...
 
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Re-dosing can be fun, as long as you keep the re-dose amount SMALL and SANE. My plan of attack is usually drop a 200-220mg pill to begin with, and then 45mins-1hr in, drop another half MAXIMUM. This keeps me ruined for a good 5-6 hours.

If you keep your usage to a few times a year, you can do it the badass way:The most intense experience I have ever had was when I dropped a 200mg pill, and then re-dosed with another whole pill at the 1hr mark. I have only ever done this once, and whilst the experience was absolutely incredible, the side-effects (restless legs, urine retention) and comedown don't make it worth it. Stick to a 1/2 re-dose maximum!
 
400mg in an hour is ridiculous...
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Indeed it is! (hence I said I only did it once....this was day one of my APB fuckup if you remember Folley!)

I agree with your 150mg + 100mg strategy, however I don't have access to crystal form, only europills. Hence, I find my 1 pill with 1/2 a re-dose seems to do me just fine with no comedown :) However, I do space my usage by about 4 months now, as the opportunities to do MDMA are getting less and less (job etc)
 
I've tried many ways for example. Taking 3 x 60mg over 3 hours (every hour) vs taking 120mg then ONE 60mg redose at 1 - 1.5 hours later. The latter worked better.

My reasoning is you only have a smaller time frame (T +1.5 hours) to take more. After that you will face diminishing returns.

Also know that if you're new or dont take MDMA regurlarly, less will be more. So try for 70-90mg intial dose. I have taken large amounts (120-140mg) as initial doses but I have come to learn taking less will get you to the same place and you will be more comfortable. Also coming up will be better with smaller initial doses.
 
In my experience I find that redosing within an hour and half of coming up gives me the best outcome. Mainly because if I take to high initial dose I will often forget a lot of the experience, although I have an amazing time I can't remember most of it.
 
I think it's relative to the situation. Now I usually only roll at events. If it's a one night show thing..I'll drop 140-150mg. If it's an all night/ festival type event. Then I use redosing about 1.5-2 hours in with 70-80mg. Now that I'm an adult and understand my body and what clean mdma is...I find anything higher on my intial dose just floors me all night...not what I want to do. I figured I should start better aiming my doses when I honey flipped with a 180mg red "?" And 25mg of 2cb. I was in another dimension but soon realized it was a little too much for the show I was at. Since then I ve done nothing but lower and lower my intial dose and I'm having better and better rolls. Just some food for thought. Just for info sake, I roll 3-6 times a year for the past 11 years....
 
Folley said:
400mg in an hour is ridiculous... that's why I dislike those Euro pills, they encourage foolish overdosing.



150mg + 100mg has me on the floor for 5+ hours, you really don't need all that extra product.
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Yeah good pills are extremely high dosed nowadays. Take those skull pills for an example. One of them and you're going to to have a night to remember alright...
 
If I'm honest, I have remembered all my nights no matter what the dosage. Granted, there are a few blackspots from my dreadful 500mg+ experience, but I remember most of it.
 
SilentRoller said:
Re-dosing can be fun, as long as you keep the re-dose amount SMALL and SANE. My plan of attack is usually drop a 200-220mg pill to begin with, and then 45mins-1hr in, drop another half MAXIMUM. This keeps me ruined for a good 5-6 hours.

If you keep your usage to a few times a year, you can do it the badass way:The most intense experience I have ever had was when I dropped a 200mg pill, and then re-dosed with another whole pill at the 1hr mark. I have only ever done this once, and whilst the experience was absolutely incredible, the side-effects (restless legs, urine retention) and comedown don't make it worth it. Stick to a 1/2 re-dose maximum!
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I've heard redosing 45 mins after initial drop is the same thing as taking the same dosage initially? True or false?
 
Prettylights____ said:
I've heard redosing 45 mins after initial drop is the same thing as taking the same dosage initially? True or false?
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Not sure but seems false to me. 45 minutes in, your initial dose is normally completely dissolved. Maybe an exception are very very hard pressed pills or a very full stomach but still most of it would be dissolved by then. The dose you drop at +45min still has to dissolve so will arrive in your bloodstream later, which doesn't amount to taking the same dose in one drop (I THINK, I am far from sure, this is what seems most logical to me)
 
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