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Red devils: Serious warning

Chaos23

Chaos23

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Ok. I am a VERY experienced psychedelic human being. Someone played a TRICK on me and my friend last night. I have NO IDEA what it was.

We bought 2 small capsules that were red and white, supposedly MDMA...

Let me tell ya, it was NOT MDMA...

Whatever this substance was took like 5 hours to peak, and it was a psychedelic SLAP in the face. I am REALLY mad someone would sell this chemical as MDMA. I felt as though I took 10 hits of POWERFUL acid. Literally lost it 110 percent.

There was a solid 6 hours that I though I had lost it completely and my world and life and the walls of reality crumbled.

WHAT psychedelic is that strong and takes 5 hours to peak? It wasn't mescaline... It wasn't AMT.. I am at a loss. I will find the people who sold it to me and ask them why they would be so evil as to sell that shit. I was expecting a nice fun roll. However, if I had been an 18 year old who didn't know what taking MASSIVE doses of insanity was like, it could have gotten really rough.

If anyone has any ideas on what I may have taken, please tell me.

Seriously, I felt like I had taken a 10 strip of killer acid, only it wasn't. A bizarre substance to say the least.

If a person ate 2 of those they would be COMPLETELY fucked. In a BAD BAD way.

Unicorns taste like love feels.

ANY IDEAS people????????

I came down 90 percent.
 
its impossible for anyone here to know what was in your capsule.
There are so many RC's available it really could have been anything.

I cant think of anything that takes 5 hours to come on, but with individual body chemistry what takes 2 hours for some can take 5 for others.
In my experience the 2c-x's (particularly 2c-i and 2c-e) and the DOx's take a while to really get going.
And if you take it on a full stomach it could take even longer.

But like i said, its impossible for us to actually know what was in there. We can all just speculate, guess, etc. but you wont get a real answer.

I would do as you said and go to, the dealer and ask him what it is.
To misidentify a substance, especially giving a psych when someone is expecting to roll, is very bad karma.

im sorry to hear you had a rough trip.
Good to hear you're starting to feel better. :)
Im sure you'll be back to baseline shortly.

<3<3

peace
 
find that fucker and kick their ass.

cosmic retribution in the form of an ass whoopin sounds appropriate.
doing that to people expecting MDMA is NOT cool.
 
It was very uncool. I have to find him, and find out WHAT THE FUCK it was. Man.... That shit was no joke. Now I am glad it happened, because it is finally about over. But mind shattering reality trashing mind FUCK.....

I just wish I had a little warning before I had taken the shit. I thought I was gonna grind my teeth and dance around all night. However, I ended up in another dimension and beyond oblivion. Seriously... I have taken hundreds of trips in my life, and this one is definitely one for the record books.

FUCKING ASSHOLES that sell that shit as E... They are just lucky my friend poff and I are professionals.

What about the 18 year old girl who takes it and thinks it is E?

I am still having lingering effects, but I am sane again. MIND and EARTH SHATTERING PSYCHEDELIA...

I will let yall know if I find out what the fuck that shit was.
 
Depending on how much was in the capsule it could have been 5-meo-amt. When I tried it orally it took about 5 hours to really kick my ass. Of course there would have to be only a small amount in that cap since a good dose is quite small. However they could have used other powders as a cut, honestly no one here can really tell you what it is sorry though.
 
DOx took 5 hours for me to peak least weekend. For you though it wouldnt be suprising if it was DOx mixed with a 2c-x or other RC.
 
^ that would be an incredibly pointless thing to do for someone selling.
Why waste the money and not just put baking soda, baby powder, or any other cut in there...
 
I hate to be "that guy" here.

But please be careful about what drugs you buy and ingest-- and please be extra careful when purchasing "MDMA", as the market is very unscrupulous.

Generally, anything in a marked-capsule is suspect from the start. "Marketing gimmicks" usually point towards an inferior/bunk/possibly-dangerous product.

In fact, you should even be suspicious of snow-white chunky 'molly' until you test it with Marquis and Mecke.

I'm not trying to come off as an asshole here, seriously, there's no judgment being passed at all (believe me when I say that I've done my fair share of irresponsible molly-munching). I'm just re-iterating some good harm reduction advice. People are shady out there, so be extra careful-- there's nothing wrong with saving your drugs for another night, so that you can properly identify them in the mean-time. :)

Have fun and party hardy, but always remain vigilant-- nothing ruins a party more quickly than a massive DOx overdose, ya know?
 
2C-P generally takes about 5 hours to fully peak for me, although first alerts arrive at +1 hr. Plateau sustained for ~5 hrs.

Tip for the future: learn what real MDMA tastes like. Always taste supposed MDMA powder/shards before ingesting. Obviously not a fool-proof method, but it has prevented me from swallowing misrepresented medicaments on certain occasions...

Also, if you have a scale, it's good to confirm the weight of the powder... if it's super fluffy and weighs out at ~20mg, you can confidently assume that it's not MDMA!

Sorry for the... chaos... that you had to endure. Hope your recuperation is clean and quick :)
 
when buying unlabelled illegal substances from someone you dont know and trust well,
this is a risk you take.

even if you do know and trust the seller, there is still NO way of knowing for sure what you're taking until you get it tested.



good luck in future, now you know to be more careful.
have a serious strong talk with the seller, warn people that you know buy from him,
that hes not to be trusted.

i knew a cunt who sold anti-psychosis meds as 2c-b.
yeah, you read correctly. if people without psychosis take them it can make them get psychosis.
unscrupulous CUNTS gambling with peoples minds and lives for fast money need a fucking ass-kicking.



karma will fuck people like this over.
 
Propyl Power said:
2C-P generally takes about 5 hours to fully peak for me, although first alerts arrive at +1 hr. Plateau sustained for ~5 hrs.

Tip for the future: learn what real MDMA tastes like. Always taste supposed MDMA powder/shards before ingesting. Obviously not a fool-proof method, but it has prevented me from swallowing misrepresented medicaments on certain occasions...

Also, if you have a scale, it's good to confirm the weight of the powder... if it's super fluffy and weighs out at ~20mg, you can confidently assume that it's not MDMA!

Sorry for the... chaos... that you had to endure. Hope your recuperation is clean and quick :)
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We were both well aware what MDMA tastes like, and we knew as soon as we tasted it that it was not molly. I called the girl I got the things from and she said that if we weren't feeling it within the hour to call and we would get our money back.

Within an hour the comeup was quite MDMA like. My eyes were kind of rolling around in my head and my jaw was chattering. So I figured what the hell. They are OK.... Then after about another 4 hours the bottom of reality fell out and the shit hit the fan. I am ok with it today, but I just wanted a warning.

Selling me a pill I think is gonna make me roll for a night that had those effects was WRONG on their part. A comment like, 'Warning, you are gonna feel like you ate an ounce of mushrooms by the way.' would have been nice.

Thanks for all the replies. Usually if I don't know my source and I buy MDMA it is the real deal, or it is totally bunk. I have NEVER had someone sell me such a powerful psychedelic and not told me before. That is mean. Now the chick won't answer her phone... guess the joke was on me. ha ha ha. not funny asshole.

It did make for an interesting evening. That much is for certain.
 
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Just as a reminder to everyone, in my experience a lot of the time the dealer doesn't really know for sure what they have. They often get it from someone else who tells them what it is (in the case MDMA) without trying it or testing it themselves.

My point is the person you got it from isn't always the one to blame.

Glad you survived, hope anyone else it was sold to also survived.
 
Just as a reminder to everyone, in my experience a lot of the time the dealer doesn't really know for sure what they have. They often get it from someone else who tells them what it is (in the case MDMA) without trying it or testing it themselves.
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Agree. I'm just glad you're okay and it wasn't something toxic and deadly. Scary!
 
That sounds awful, sorry some jackass put you through that for a few easy bucks.

Delsyd: funny, 2C-I and -E come up very quick for me on a light/empty stomach and not too much slower on a full one. STRONG alerts by 30 minutes in, +3 territory between 1 and 2 hours in, by 2 hours in I'm at or very close to the peak. This may be a dose-dependent thing, as I have very rarely dosed less than 20mg at a time of either compound. A perfect example of why ID threads never work out too well; unless you personally have tried the compound before, or it's a compound with a *very* unique effects profile, it's next to impossible to figure out much about what you've taken based just on the subjective experience you had. The difference between related compounds can be very subtle, and the difference between individual bodies and minds can be very great.

That said, 2C-P sounds like a decent guess to me, depending on how long that peak lasted. It has a reputation for coming on quite slowly, being very unpredictable and generally pretty intense for a 2C, and it has the lowest dosages of any of the 2Cs I know of, so I could see it being a popular choice among the type of unscrupulous dealer who would buy an RC to sell at inflated prices misrepresented as some more popular drug.
 
Glad you made it through the trip! :D
That's why I don't try to buy pills anymore. My friend got caps from a generally very reliable guy that were supposedly MDMA, but they instead turned out to be methamphetamine. The pill scene is far too shady nowadays (and sadly it's starting to spread over to the psychedelic community as well). Even if your supplier is a good, reliable person, it doesn't mean that the person supplying them gives a fuck about what they're selling him/her. :X
 
2 days later and my visual field is still not 100 percent ok. Everything is still very slightly fluid. I still see trails.

I just want this shit to END. I posted a trip report about it...

Those pills were designed to DESTROY human consciousness... NOT fucking ok in my book.... I am a little angry that people would sell this shit as MDMA. That shit was no joke man... I talked to my friend yesterday who took it with me. We both agreed to find the asshole who it came from. :!:!:!
 
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