Opioids recreational users of opium or other opiates

[freaktech]

I'd want know if exist any recreational user (1-2 times a month at most) of opium or other opiates. Is like nicotine? with nicotine is almost impossible to keep a occasional use, and is the reason because I don't smoke anymore since 4 years ago.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

It is nothing like nicotine.

Comparing the addictiveness of different classes of drugs is a dangerous practice. Some people really enjoy nicotine and get hooked on it right away. The same could be said about alcohol, opiates, amphetamines, cocaine, benzos, caffeine, pretty much any drug. If you really do keep you usage to one or two times a month you should be okay.

I must warn you, however, that, many people start out with just using opiates once or twice a month and a few months down the road they're using four or five times a month...then they're using three or four times a week. Opiates are addictive, that is for sure. Some people just like them a lot more than others (and for those people opiates are that much more addictive) - its impossible to say if you're one of those people, however.

 

[tokenname]

I'd want know if exist any recreational user (1-2 times a month at most) of opium or other opiates. Is like nicotine? with nicotine is almost impossible to keep a occasional use, and is the reason because I don't smoke anymore since 4 years ago.

yes. they exist.
but- like giant panda bears..or honest car salesmen, they are few and far between..
and it's the opposite of smart to ever count on finding one..or being one.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

benzodiazepines, opiates/oids, and nicotine all have an addiction that "creeps up", so to speak, so you'd be hard pressed to realize before its too late.

 

[freaktech]

with benzos i have absolutely no problem. I tried lorazepam, diazepam, alprazolam and clonazepam and I used them ocassionally for different purposes (adjust sleep patterns mainly) for more than ten years and never felt any push, seduction, or urge to take every week and no words for every day use... Alcohol is the only drug that I use weekly, and even this some weekends I don't take at all. But with opiates I only have very few experiences with codeine on 60-90 mg.

 

[Znegative]

benzodiazepines, opiates/oids, and nicotine all have an addiction that "creeps up", so to speak, so you'd be hard pressed to realize before its too late.

That's a good way of putting it, and with the exception of perhaps IV cocaine/crack, pretty much every hard drug acts in the same way. The addiction is so subtle, people often don't even realize they're hooked (psychologically or physically) until it's too late. The biggest contributor to the insidious nature of opiate addiction (and really the same can be said of benzodiazepines and certain stimulants) IME is this idea that I can function better while intoxicated. Eventually however, people cannot function at all unless they have a constant access to the drug.

Also, like NHT stated, many addictions start off with only occasional/monthly use. This can go on for years and then out of the blue a person might become addicted. I think people can easily become cocky, thinking "Ha! I got this thing down! If I can use once a month, and keep my cool, than why not once every two weeks?" In fact, I feel that if you're already making it a point to limit how often you let yourself indulge, than its a good indication that you are likely to develop an addiction at some point.

Anyway, in the end opiates can be dangerous for other reasons aside from causing a lifetime struggle with addiction. They can just kill you, especially street opiates, or if you mix them with other CNS depressants. My friends friend died of an overdose. The man had "successfully" used heroin for years without getting addicted, rarely using more than once a month. I the end I guess he did succeed in avoiding dependency (at least in the conventional sense) but he's still fucking dead.

 

[BlueHues]

^Z, That's kind of a paradox, if he had been a daily user his tolerance might have kept him alive! Of course, maybe he would have used a shit=ton more and Od'd anyway.

I have a horribly addictive personality and get addicted to just about anything eventually. Opiates were the last thing to catch my interest though....I always found the people that used them were boring, until I became that person. Once you are addicted to opiates, the're hard as hell to walk away from, thats for sure.

 

[Znegative]

Yeah, perhaps I didn't state it as well as I could have, because that's kind of the point I was making, that even if you aren't physically dependent and can control how often you use, it doesn't mean you won't suffer from other consequences that come with opiate abuse.

 

[burn out]

Opiates for me, were/are the hardest drug to quit (I am on suboxone right now) because of how the withdrawal works and how a shot instantly cures it. I found it easier to kick a major benzo habit than to kick opiates and the benzo withdrawal was two eyars of total hell. the difference was, benzos were making me sick so taking a benzo didnt instantly cure everything the way taking an opiate does.

 

[Disraeli_Beers]

Short answer: yeah, they do

Long answer: read this thread. Insidious is the perfect way to describe opiate addiction.

 

[Snake_Eyes]

I have been an recreational opiate (hydro/oxy) user for a year now. I had a couple non consecutive months early on where I would use once a week at most. Now it's once every 3-4 weeks.

I'm the same way with benzos, even though they are prescribed I only take them twice a week at most.

 

[Tommyboy]

This topic has been covered several times. Here is a recent thread on it, and I also posted a link to an older similar thread in that one. Since we have several threads on this topic I am going to close this one.