recreational use - how often and when can returnI?

[gerald]

recreational use - how often and when can I return?

Thanks for the advice, and sorry for the excessive posting to those who are annoyed...

Anyway, I understand that this is roughly akin to sticking my hand into the same flame twice, but since I now know what breed of animal tar is, when can I begin using it recreationally again (and please, no nay-sayers telling me that I'll just fall into addiction again)?

I made the mistake last time of thinking that I was above it all, smarter and more responsible than your average heroin user, and the proof that I'm not that showed up with addiction is the reason I'm so determined to get clean.

Anyway, to make a long post short, when is the body completely free of the addiction it was previously bound to, and how often (once a week, etc.) can I use without developing a habit?

Thanks for your patience,

gerald

 

[JosephTHeSequel]

your body is never fully free from the demon you let in. If you were truely addicted, i wouldnt even consider touching it again becasue the addiction really never leaves. it might hide, and alotta times it hides forever let it hide forever if you had alotta problems with it.

 

[Ketamike]

I can avoid physical withdrawal if I keep my useage down to twice a week. The big question is do I? ... The answer is no.

I'd suggest that you don't touch it... do as I say, not as I do.

 

[alucard]

Ask yourself...how much do you like it? Do you really believe that you can do it recreationally, without falling into the addiction trap. That's something that only you can tell yourself, nobody else on this board.

You think about it, and you decide. All of the facts are here. Only you know you.

-alucard

 

[Jesus H Christ]

My suggestion is never touching it again. You're talking about getting into it, but that's the addiction talking. I strongly suggest just smoking marijuana... and sticking to it. It's really a great drug, in my opinion the best drug in the world.

 

[chris2xd]

Dude - I have been paying close attention to your posts over the last week or so. As far as you've stated, you've been clean, what, 4 days now? You are no where near a point where you can pickup and use recreationally. You would only be lying to yourself if you believed you could.

I'll quote somebody from this board, and I'm sorry, but I forget who said it...may have been Silverfucked or Love in Vein, but anyway.... "You'll have to be able to be around the substance and be able to obstain from using." I know that probably sound like torture, but it will help you out. You have to take control of your addiction and get your shit together first, before even (stupidly) considering going back to using moderately.

I, myself, had a serious opiate addiction that I just recently gave up. 21 days and counting, and I know in my heart that if I used again, the downward spiral would commence......

Its best to just pack up your shit, wave good bye, and walk away from an addiction....

Trust me, you're better off without it.

 

[gerald]

Thanks for all the advice, but I feel like if I'm able to pull myself away this once (and virtually all my symptoms have abated), along with the fact that I've never had much of a mental problem with drugs (and I've done pretty much every 'hard' drug), that now that I know what a "physical" dependency is for the first time I'll be able to keep from sliding back into it.

I'm lucky - my friends don't use, it was only me doing it, and purely out of curiousity, so I don't have that to worry about. I'm not around it, and I'm sitting on quite a few OC-20s that I'm not touching.

So, if you can trust me, please tell me the hard facts of the matter. That is, how often can I use without becoming physically dependant again (and I'm not planning to 'stretch' any figure I get), and how long will it take my body to completely recover this time?

Thanks again,

gerald

 

[chickenbone]

gerald...I don't know what you want us to say. I have read all your post and even posted foryour good merit and 4 days of clean. But now your asking for no-nosayers..just looking for what time you need between uses so you don't get addicted again..first the answer to your question is that there is no answer..everybody is different, and that drug might call your body quicker then somebody else's.
So thats something that no one else can answer for you..if you think you can return to using and not become addicted again, well that sounds like somthing I would say if I was addicted and itching to use..

This site is about prevention of harm. We aren't here to comfirm your feeling, that its ok to start up again....The truth is we don't want you to become addicted again. So we can't lie to ourselves and tell you its ok and go back to once a week use..I'm sorry...I don't think this is right...

Chicken

 

[placid space]

well about your body recovering it depends really on the amount you were using .. three weeks and your tolerance should be down pretty much.. though everyone is different.. for me one week and a half is quite enough.. but im no heavy duty user...u know best

about using recreationally there are some good advices in the upper posts... id only add that if you plan on using again make some sort of a plan so u limit ur use and dont just chase desire cause then obviously ull be in over ur head...if u cant stick to the plan stop and try again if u feel ure up to it otherwise stop altogether..
the thing that kinda works for me ( its been two years now) is that i buy hmm i guess about 1g per months thats about every second week 0.5g which lasts me through the weekend (friday till monday sometimes tuesday if its better quality--im in Europe). stick to it .. in the beginning i used way more and found out eventually that im losing money way to fast and being either depressed or high so i tried a different approach.. but still untill now i couldnt shake it completely its still got a big fucking pull on me.. ah well
good luck dude..

 

[hunterdog1993]

Hi gerald -
I posted to you a few days ago in some other thread about your being 36 hours clean...
OK, first the straight answer to your question: I assume you are taliking about how often you can use (and how soon) w/o physical addiction closing its grip around you. My answer: wait at least a week (two would be better). After that, once or twice a week should be fine. If you really want to play with fire, my junkie mentor recommends no more than "three days on, three days off." Right now I'm taking methadone to kick against his advice (although I'm only taking 1/2 the dose he recommended!), but I trust him w/ my life (and have).
Second, I have to repeat what everyone else has said so far: Why? Don't you remember how bad you felt just a couple of days ago? What you have to realize (It's the *last* thing I realized about dope -- probably the same for alot of others) is that the physical addiction is a joke compared to the psychological. That physical is just a few days of insomnia and sniffles; the psych is a motherfucker that sneaks up on you and makes you ask questions like, "how soon/often can I use again?"
I guess, ultimately, the answer is, "When you can show the stuff some respect," because this is some serious shit, you must now admit, and it has the power to make you not able to trust yourself.
And that should scare you.
-p

 

[Ketamike]

I applaud you for being able to hold onto the OC... I'm assuming that you love oxy, but you're proving to yourself that you have discipline. It's not impossible to master opiates. If you can pull it off, and live a productive life while still recreationally soaking in opiated bliss, more power to you.

I personally can't hold onto opiates.