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I very much doubt that... I hardly ever pick a duffer if I do say so meself. And, as mentioned, I was a paid film critic for a bit too so surely that makes my gut instinct have wider meaning, no? Would do according to your rationale anyway ;)

Can't say whether I've missed out on some amazing films due to ingrained prejudice or misleading gut but is obviously extremely probable. But same goes for anyone whatever they base their film choices on surely. I'm guessing you haven't watched every highly-rated (by IMDB and the like) film? You've no doubt missed some corkers too then. Not to mention the hundreds of criminally overlooked masterpieces that dwell in the lower echelons of the ratings systems.

Use the Force, grasshopper. The Force of your own instincts rather than somebody else's presumed superior intellectualising. Or don't. 'Sup to you really. Each to their own, eh? :)

I was under the impression that film reviewers watched all films and rated them. Not picked up a film they thought was worth watching and then rated that. Or am I wrong? It would make your opinion valuable when combined with another 99 film buffs though, that's for sure.

I haven't seen every highly rated film on imdb etc. yet. My biases tend to lead me away from films made before the 1950s because they don't hold my attention. But I did that check list thing and if I remember rightly the number was 157/250 of the top films on imdb? And on RT there is no clear list of films rated 80% or above, but I have probably watched 5-10 films rated 60% and above for the last 7 years, plus all the films I saw before that. So I am probably in the high thousands? I know that without delving into pre 1950s/60s films I have generally been reduced to filling in the gaps of English films I have missed or watching foreign films though :) O, and i've watched countless countless films that have low ratings, mostly because they're just on the TV, and i've come away extremely pissed off, so now I refuse to waste my time. Sometimes I read the blurb and think that looks fucking amazing, then bam they've totally ruined it with their poor story, story telling, directing, or shit acting.
 
Herzog?? im intrigued, need to look into this. only been skimming through, recommend me a load of Herzog stuff i should watch,

Literally every single film and documentary he's ever made. He's made lots...

Is kinda hard to recommend particular ones due to having such a wide and varied career. Depends whatcha like really. Check out a filmography and takes ya pic :)

Coupla my personal faves: Aguirre: Wrath of God, Fitzcarraldo, Stroszek, Nosferatu The Vampyre (all feature films), Lessons of Darkness (absolutely stunning doc about Gulf War I), God's Angry Men, Gesualdo: Death for Five Voices, Grizzly Man (all documentaries). To be honest, you simply cannot go wrong with Herzog. Even stuff that looks kinda dull on paper he transforms into jaw-dropping filmmaking. Man's a genius plain and simple.
 
i've got it on the 'purchase' as well, watched the trailer and it looks a bit poo but probably entertaining enough to have on in the background while i sand down this fucking petrol tank.

even though MSB mostly chats a lot of bollocks %), his documentary/films recommendations are usually quite good :)

I think he plays the loveable retard-come-goon quite well. It beats the crap out of his usual frat boy shenanigans!
 
I was under the impression that film reviewers watched all films and rated them. Not picked up a film they thought was worth watching and then rated that. Or am I wrong? It would make your opinion valuable when combined with another 99 film buffs though, that's for sure.

You're impression would be awry then ;)

Critics most certainly don't watch every film that comes along. They view and rate whatever they're asked to by their editor, or work freelance and get to pick and choose. I was a bit of both meself - I reviewed whatever me boss sent me but was working for a specialist niche film magazine who mainly covered genre films. Mainstream reviewers are open to suspicions of bribery cos they get mucho freebies and jollies laid on by the marketing department which tends to colour opinions somewhat even if only subconsciously. If you get a bulging box o' goodies, loadsa free champers and an all-round good night laid on films tend to seem better than they may be without the freebies. Human nature innit.
 
You're impression would be awry then ;)

Critics most certainly don't watch every film that comes along. They view and rate whatever they're asked to by their editor, or work freelance and get to pick and choose. I was a bit of both meself - I reviewed whatever me boss sent me but was working for a specialist niche film magazine who mainly covered genre films. Mainstream reviewers are open to suspicions of bribery cos they get mucho freebies and jollies laid on by the marketing department which tends to colour opinions somewhat even if only subconsciously. If you get a bulging box o' goodies, loadsa free champers and an all-round good night laid on films tend to seem better than they may be without the freebies. Human nature innit.

Hmmm, I thought most papers and film sites wanted all the bases covered. Wouldn't want someone to open your paper and not know what your papers opinion was would you? I know about the whole freeby malarky at opening nights and stuff, but I would have thought that they went to enough of them, and slate enough of them, that their integrity remained rather in tact? I guess not. I thought it was like Film 2012 (2011, 2010 etc.), like there isn't much that gets past Jonathan Ross, who will watch anything from the lastest £200 million block buster, to a Japanese sci fi film shot with one camera and a cast of 4 midgets.
 
I was under the impression that film reviewers watched all films and rated them. Not picked up a film they thought was worth watching and then rated that. Or am I wrong? It would make your opinion valuable when combined with another 99 film buffs though, that's for sure.

I haven't seen every highly rated film on imdb etc. yet. My biases tend to lead me away from films made before the 1950s because they don't hold my attention. But I did that check list thing and if I remember rightly the number was 157/250 of the top films on imdb? And on RT there is no clear list of films rated 80% or above, but I have probably watched 5-10 films rated 60% and above for the last 7 years, plus all the films I saw before that. So I am probably in the high thousands? I know that without delving into pre 1950s/60s films I have generally been reduced to filling in the gaps of English films I have missed or watching foreign films though :) O, and i've watched countless countless films that have low ratings, mostly because they're just on the TV, and i've come away extremely pissed off, so now I refuse to waste my time. Sometimes I read the blurb and think that looks fucking amazing, then bam they've totally ruined it with their poor story, story telling, directing, or shit acting.

My sure-fire method is once you've found a film you've liked, note the names of the people involved then look for other stuff by them. It doesn't always work but most of the time it does. Unfortunately it means I go through season of watching everything by X director. Then you get tangential links, director x is pals with director y, I liked films by x so I'll try films by y.

For stuff I don't know about I use review sites but they do frequently slate stuff I think is very good or praise stuff I think is shit. So I read the punters reviews too, and usually there is something to latch on to in what they've written to either reject or add to the must-watch list. If they liked other stuff I also liked then that can help.

And of course recommendations from friends with a similar taste is sometimes helpful. And the taglines, trailers and the cover pictures sometimes do in fact help! They choose the cover picture for a reason. I think shammy's "gut instinct" is probably all of this and more put through a blender, maybe.
 
My sure-fire method is once you've found a film you've liked, note the names of the people involved then look for other stuff by them. It doesn't always work but most of the time it does. Unfortunately it means I go through season of watching everything by X director. Then you get tangential links, director x is pals with director y, I liked films by x so I'll try films by y.

For stuff I don't know about I use review sites but they do frequently slate stuff I think is very good or praise stuff I think is shit. So I read the punters reviews too, and usually there is something to latch on to in what they've written to either reject or add to the must-watch list. If they liked other stuff I also liked then that can help.

And of course recommendations from friends with a similar taste is sometimes helpful. And the taglines, trailers and the cover pictures sometimes do in fact help! They choose the cover picture for a reason. I think shammy's "gut instinct" is probably all of this put through a blender, maybe.

Yeah I will often give a film a chance if I like the directors style, because I like to see some of their style shine through, which can save an otherwise shit film. "The Life Aquatic" by Wes Anderson springs to mind. I watch way too many films for that to suffice as a way of finding enough films to watch though, so I am reduced to setting pre-programmed searches into RT to see what it spits out. Like "70% reviews"+2000s+comedy or whatever. Na wat I mean?

Of all the films i've watched lately I can't believe the one that's getting picked up by everyone to watch is "Goon". I mean I enjoyed it, and it definitely ticked the right boxes, more so from sheer surprise that it was actually good. But I would much rather have put my name on the line on some of the films I recommended a few pages back, that people will 100% definitely like, like "Headhunters", and "Ne le dis a Personne", which in my view are worth more than just one watch. I mean i'm glad I watched it, it was fun, but would I spend money on it or bother owning it? Doubtful. It was pretty cool getting to slight grips with Icehockey, which I had very little experience of before.
 
I actually like Sean Scott Williams he's a funny dude!.
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That's his best film imo.
 
Yeah I will often give a film a chance if I like the directors style, because I like to see some of their style shine through, which can save an otherwise shit film. "The Life Aquatic" by Wes Anderson springs to mind. I watch way too many films for that to suffice as a way of finding enough films to watch though, so I am reduced to setting pre-programmed searches into RT to see what it spits out. Like "70% reviews"+2000s+comedy or whatever. Na wat I mean?

Yeah it's not just about "directors style", it's also about their taste and integrity. Some people who work on films have both, and the films they are involved with are usually pretty good. Actors too. But it's definitely a starter for 10 more than a guarantee.
 
haha!

I've got it now, too, so I'm off for a long bath and gonna watch it on my lappy while splashing about*. lappy is on a stool, so don't start getting excited about me getting electrocuted**.

*that way if it's shit, I wont resent MSB for wasting my time, cos I'll be doing something productive at the same time
** but lol, if I did die in the bath now, that'd be a decent claim-to-forum-fame MSB, 'I killed Marmz' ... =D

[edit] I'm in Bluntsie's head right now, and he's doubting himself & full of regret, thinking, 'fuck, both of them are gonna watch it, but in retrospect it wasn't THAT good, hoe noes, what am I gonna dooo?' ;p
Of all the films i've watched lately I can't believe the one that's getting picked up by everyone to watch is "Goon". I mean I enjoyed it, and it definitely ticked the right boxes, more so from sheer surprise that it was actually good. But I would much rather have put my name on the line on some of the films I recommended a few pages back, that people will 100% definitely like, like "Headhunters", and "Ne le dis a Personne", which in my view are worth more than just one watch. I mean i'm glad I watched it, it was fun, but would I spend money on it or bother owning it? Doubtful. It was pretty cool getting to slight grips with Icehockey, which I had very little experience of before.

postin from zee bath riiite naow, but couldn't resist =D
 
I thought it was like Film 2012 (2011, 2010 etc.), like there isn't much that gets past Jonathan Ross, who will watch anything from the lastest £200 million block buster, to a Japanese sci fi film shot with one camera and a cast of 4 midgets.

I'd say that Wossy's the kinda critic whose personal tastes are well-known enough that you can probly judge whether to agree or disagree with his recommendations based on what you know of his taste. Personally, I'd say he has damn fine taste in terms of "World Cinema" (especially Far Eastern stuff) and also genre films (meaning sci-fi, fantasy, horror, "cult" kinda stuff) and would most likely agree with his recommendations of such fare. I'd suspect he gets to mention the more obscure stuff that he does mixed in with mainstream stuff on Film 20xx cos I presume he's semi-freelance. The low-budget/foreign/limited release stuff that gets a mention towards the end of the show would be more personal recommendations based on specialist knowledge of such stuff cos he's a well-known fanboy of those films. The Hollywood reviews are bread and butter that gives the show mass-appeal. And he's an all-round film buff anyway. I actually do rate his reviews meself. And may be well off the mark with the "semi-freelance" suggestion. Seems that's the case to me anyway cos he definitely slips in plenty of cultish fillums you don't tend to see mentioned by most mainstream critics.

In vaguely related news, he did some comics/graphic novels a while back which looked great. Bet he'd turn out better films than his missus does if he got the chance anyway :D
 
she writes scripts I think. not really inpressed with the gaiman one she did, cant remember what .. fairytale stuff with witches?

probably not even gaiman related.

she's fucking hawt tho, imo. buxom loveliness
 
I think shammy's "gut instinct" is probably all of this and more put through a blender, maybe.

Then you would think correctly, Mr Ando ;)

Pretty much summed up my approach to picking a fillum really. Track record of director being the prime factor usually. Along with writer, actors (some of 'em anyway) and opinions of folk I know have damn fine taste from prior experience.

Speaking of damn fine taste in films based on prior experience of recommendations... *waves at ms. marmz in all her bathtime-based, goon-gogglin' glory*
 
feeling in the mood for a samurai kinda film, aint gotta clue why, all that funky sword n martial arts stuff is fucking cool though

someone said about 13 assassins the other day, might check it out
 
@ Shambles: bath based sans hair dye (cyclamen), my head is wrapped in clingfilm (for heat), and on top of that I've got a stupid knitted hat on so I don't get dye everywhere.
and obv looking VERY BLOODY SEXY as a result
/LIES

(really off to watch this Seann wank william thing now)

toodles <3
 
postin from zee bath riiite naow, but couldn't resist =D

I did give it 7.5/10, i'd give those other films 10/10. I don't know if you like watching people get punched in the face or not either lol. If you don't like Williams, then you'll probably love seeing him take a beating =D The level of doubt I have recieved has made me slightly doubt myself though, which is weird because I watched it last night and I definitely liked it. Not in a life changing/life afirming sort of way. In a "that was good, passed the time nicely" way ;)
 
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