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Good safety watch. Could be best to do closer to once a year now.m due to serotonin studies shown at the beginning of this video. More than likely, when I abused ecstacy in 2000-2001, thirty nights of taking an ecstacy pill (some nights more, but mostly one pill, triple stacks, double stacks) my serotonin would have tested 50-80 % lower, like in this video.
 
This drug is one of the most addictive hedonistic drugs that exists. I mean so are opioids and they have their place in medicine too, but I’ve always had a hard time thinking that giving this to a drug naive person and letting them see how fucking good a drug can make a person feel is asking for problems. I can’t think of a single drug that is more mindblowingly euphoric and makes one want to repeat the experience than mdma. No rough edges to the experience whatsoever. Opioids are like that too but way more subtle. You could get away with giving opioids to a drug naive person and they would just be like “that’s it?” But. With mdma it’s going to be remembered.
 
This drug is one of the most addictive hedonistic drugs that exists. I mean so are opioids and they have their place in medicine too, but I’ve always had a hard time thinking that giving this to a drug naive person and letting them see how fucking good a drug can make a person feel is asking for problems. I can’t think of a single drug that is more mindblowingly euphoric and makes one want to repeat the experience than mdma. No rough edges to the experience whatsoever. Opioids are like that too but way more subtle. You could get away with giving opioids to a drug naive person and they would just be like “that’s it?” But. With mdma it’s going to be remembered.
Mdma addictive? No. It's not
 
so Im blown again after a year or more without any such drug, tried rc phenidate like 4f-mph its like concerta and a beer. euphoric a bit manic. So I just took the one with warning 240mg mdma apparently, but I woud say it is pure mdma 180mg as I also go about 2mg\kg. this below, but i never drink like most people do I cant. just saying it stresses your liver as dehydration. I never get bruxism or I can supress it( hard to explain but I think that itself is a bit rewarding( which is a vicious cycle of selfconfidence, charisma out max, ego boost but again humble in every way.

you know hearts and f...cats and dogs hahahah( no I love them)

I can’t think of a single drug that is more mindblowingly euphoric and makes one want to repeat the experience than mdma.
 
Mdma addictive? No. It's not

Your username checks out.

It’s addictive. People repeat the experience more often than they should chasing that first roll and it bites them in the ass with bad comedowns, long term brain fog, etc.

Plenty of stories in this forum of people smashing pills every weekend for years and taking absurd doses of 500 mg per night. Plenty of stories of long term cognitive damage in this sub (“long term comedown”)

That’s addiction.

I remember when I eventually started IVing MDMA. That was addiction.
 
Your username checks out.

It’s addictive. People repeat the experience more often than they should chasing that first roll and it bites them in the ass with bad comedowns, long term brain fog, etc.

Plenty of stories in this forum of people smashing pills every weekend for years and taking absurd doses of 500 mg per night. Plenty of stories of long term cognitive damage in this sub (“long term comedown”)

That’s addiction.

I remember when I eventually started IVing MDMA. That was addiction.
It's not addictive physically
 
For me it is there between ketamine and amphetamine in addictiveness. So, definitely addiction potential. Destructive behaviour can be aggravated by comedowns that tend to make people feel crappy and possibly impulsive, etc.

I would call it alluring but I don't have to dose it all the time if I possess some, but my stash will be gone in max. 5 weeks definitely, and that's why I specc any molly about 2 times a year to give myself rest. I am not stuck thinking about it months later like I felt about meth last time I had 5-6 days binge, only 1-3 weeks.
 
Apologies for light read :cool:

but yeah it should be probably taken with self control, I know someone has these comedowns I only did once and that was not mdma. because of the crappy nor here n there feeling. but this yesterday was really felt pure, I slept like a baby took 4000mg of ascorbic acid, took 2 more, me and 5-htp just have these stomach aches while taking it so I just stopped also I think a lot of that is expensive urine after all, as l-tryptophan but don't take it as some universal truth. It is subjective, I found more with eating quality fish that morning and after couple of boiled eggs, ham If I can eat, or if not

just make some salad and put less eggs in. or gyros

I had these binge moments when I first tried xtc when I was 26. which is when I tried also blow first time I loved it as I was not drunk in a seconds but in perfect mood. Later I tried it couple times and the quality is so bad that I just saw that for partying mdma is better which was a disaster, taking xtc or mdma two days in a row or three I did luckily at that time discovered bluelight. but more for reading. I now sometimes don't come here for days but when I do this is the place I would found out about recent studies as also I get MAPS latest studies and progress in mail.
As this thread or post is about that.

I woke up refreshed started cleaning felt even better. starting is maybe still the hardest thing in that process.

Also it obliterates Phenibut first part of rebound withdrawal but i said earlier that I will use it in two or three weeks, this HCL didn't create any stomach or GI issues. as it was on 2.5 g I found sweet spot. there is ANHEDONIA strong after even with pregabalin felt couple days and this is the second time I didnt even plan on mdma as it was more than a year. I was pleasantly surprised as I forgot that feeling. so it came strong euphoric

taking vitamin C high dose always helps or eating oranges, kiwi, tangerines, lemon is hardcore I think it probably lessen the neurotoxicity, also heat or temp is not a lot fluctuating.

So if you dance or someone around you like never before. the best is some isotonic or PowerAid drink as keeping your water intake not to much or like bottoms up, You cant or don't urinate so you sweat salt, electrolytes.

With all that serotonin flood your stomach contracts and i cant drink one small beer, some of my friend drink like they took some blow or amphetamines, but I think that is because some of them are now alcoholics or maybe functional alcoholics so they are habituated.

Now I did before also maybe amphetamines the other day if there was an after party which is full of eyes that doesn't even blink. so I would light I joint and it is like that after glow just becomes GLOW again.

Don't redoes at at least hour and a half after you take mdma. 2mg/kg is some scale you can go about. You can redose after maybe 90 minutes if it is xtc some of those on pill reports which is also good place to see for your area latest reports, also you can order Test-kit with their voucher ( I think this is not sourcing it is more harm reduction but if am wrong ( you know what to do) :cool:

pure MDMA should be white like crystals or if crushed it is like white small little glass. so i never liked the intranasal ROA it is like a different drug. not very much anything.

here in Europe it is that also with amphetamines which I think that ROA like oral is less edgy more cognitive as physical or peripheral stimulation( depending on what is in that sludge) less comedown or not that jittery on edge.

I must say for the end I never had psychosis because I felt bad like everyone else but I somehow learned not to get frustrated over small things or not going in situations that could escalate to some fixation over stupid things.

Set and setting are probably always important not just for acid.

So stay properly hydrated, put some music or make some music it is also rewarding. I guess output is also dictating the input like two way street, hence the isolation or sensory deprivation tanks. Test it, Watch out for each other not like being boring but every hour just like in poker, you just check, till your friend says check-great I'm flying. than you lower the chances of any bad situations

Just have larger gap between taking it, try to take only from people you trust but testing is Mangelin, Mache and Marquis are in cheap kit you take the best thing a small piece from every xtc or mdma crystals or powder also small parts like 3, 4 just to be sure.

I think for dependency on mdma is like you said above only when you go impulsively try to avoid that lousy feeling of taking to much mdma or amphetamines with it days after. You will feel the brain zaps and you try to sleep it wakes you up it is very frustrating. So that is like last warning to just stop!

Stay safe and be responsible adult in everything. I tell you that because I wasn't than I was and latter is better.
 
This drug is one of the most addictive hedonistic drugs that exists. I mean so are opioids and they have their place in medicine too, but I’ve always had a hard time thinking that giving this to a drug naive person and letting them see how fucking good a drug can make a person feel is asking for problems. I can’t think of a single drug that is more mindblowingly euphoric and makes one want to repeat the experience than mdma. No rough edges to the experience whatsoever. Opioids are like that too but way more subtle. You could get away with giving opioids to a drug naive person and they would just be like “that’s it?” But. With mdma it’s going to be remembered.
yeah, I think the same, but for me good quality 3-mmc was even better than mdma, perhaps I've never gotten good quality mdma, but the feeling of wanting to repeat wasn't as intense as with top tier 3-mmc
 
yeah, I think the same, but for me good quality 3-mmc was even better than mdma, perhaps I've never gotten good quality mdma, but the feeling of wanting to repeat wasn't as intense as with top tier 3-mmc
Yes. I've read that you need to obstain from it for a little bit before it works again. By definition, that's actually the opposite of addiction.
 
but yeah it should be probably taken with self control, I know someone has these comedowns I only did once and that was not mdma. because of the crappy nor here n there feeling. but this yesterday was really felt pure, I slept like a baby took 4000mg of ascorbic acid, took 2 more, me and 5-htp just have these stomach aches while taking it so I just stopped also I think a lot of that is expensive urine after all, as l-tryptophan but don't take it as some universal truth. It is subjective, I found more with eating quality fish that morning and after couple of boiled eggs, ham If I can eat, or if not

just make some salad and put less eggs in. or gyros



Don't redoes at at least hour and a half after you take mdma. 2mg/kg is some scale you can go about. You can redose after maybe 90 minutes if it is xtc some of those on pill reports which is also good place to see for your area latest reports, also you can order Test-kit with their voucher ( I think this is not sourcing it is more harm reduction but if am wrong ( you know what to do) :cool:


Set and setting are probably always important not just for acid.



Just have larger gap between taking it, try to take only from people you trust but testing is Mangelin, Mache and Marquis are in cheap kit you take the best thing a small piece from every xtc or mdma crystals or powder also small parts like 3, 4 just to be sure.

I think for dependency on mdma is like you said above only when you go impulsively try to avoid that lousy feeling of taking to much mdma or amphetamines with it days after. You will feel the brain zaps and you try to sleep it wakes you up it is very frustrating. So that is like last warning to just stop!

Stay safe and be responsible adult in everything. I tell you that because I wasn't than I was and latter is better.

Agreed on come downs. The nest day needs to be free of work ime and imo, and is best spent with signifant other. used to use 5 htp but got serotnin syndrome from mixing it with high egcg in magic matcha , passion flower, and other herbs I didnt know interact with serotonin.

The next day needs to be schedule to at least eat maintaince calories due to the serontin release. Sure its small but makes the day feel better (as does ketamine or weed the next day) One could do small amount of ketamine on comeup or during, but small amount because ketamine , or related dissociatives, seem stronger mg per mg on empathogens , does anyone agree or disagree with this statement?

I used to like phenibut couple hours before sleep,, but now thats its really not sold anywheres, I guess good indica or cbn cannabis could do, would rather save them for the next day, if have something like phenibut.

again ketamine would be better on comedown or next day while reovering from the all the serontin that was depleted.

with mdma and empathogens dose to bodyweight does not seem to be accurate.

Redosing is something did expirementing with, and if you have quality mdma, or any empathogen, one dose is enough. Last time rolled did 80 mgs mdma and 20 mgs 6 apb and was slightly underwhelming but still awesome , and better to be a bit under than over, from lots of expirience with mdma, and empathogens. Would not redose if feeling it in the backround, just wait untill next time.

I took a fouteen year break after abusing ecstacy from 2001 to 2015, after magic was lost and regained it. I wont do more than three times a year , due to much trial and error, serontin syndrome issues 2015, 2017. Yes brain zaps while sleeping. (of course early years from abuse but thats so long ago lesson learned) 2018 didnt roll bc didnt have anyone that would do it with me and had plenty.

I find it best from doing it about fifty nights since Nov 2000, that it is not something to do home alone in your room. At the least go out with friends to a city with good night life , preferally a dance or trance club, or social scene. My favorite way is with opposite sex who I love and connect with deeply spending at least a couple days together the whole time , the day of and day after.

Totally agree with your last sentence. After being in the pits of hell, crying , hopelessness, two days after a massive comedown, to serontin syndrome in 2015 for over a week, to severe depression two days plus afterwards in 2017, I would rather do a bit less and if it doesnt bring me to where I want , waiting for next time and increasing the dose, next time, instead of redosing, which has been shown to cause a lot more neurotoxicity. (I used to redose x pills in earlier ecstacy days)

Most of all have the willpower with mdma and all recreationals to wait as long as neccessary for the ideal or at least good, safe conditions for set and setting. It can be hell going through but if you use just to feel better bc you feel bad vs using it when your feeling good to feel mdmamazing , it is worth the wait.
 
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again ketamine would be better on comedown or next day while reovering from the all the serontin that was depleted.
Now I was trying to be polite, yes Ketamine or 2f/dck or dck memantine, are always welcome. NMDA antagonists helped me with buprenorphine withdrawal as benzos.

But be careful whoever reads. I remember taking ketamine at the party. It was great like looking people dance with, orange tights blonde beauty, I think narrative is or opposite of aphantasia, mental picture like a movie screen.

but jelly-legs are weird so best to save it when home
 
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