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Reason for the Global MDMA Crisis (GMC)

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This thread still has valuable discussion as to whether or not the global MDMA crisis actually existed or not. Many of us never even reported a lack of MDMA, dealers got greedier in the past year but it has never been harder than a few phones calls away to get some decent MDMA.

Also, I'll be willing to bet my left testicle that they weren't the same white hearts, I've tried three different kinds myself in the past year.
 
Some itneresting figures there Biscuit, I don't even take pills anymore so who knows maybe those are accurate but I do have to say a quick look on pillreports paints a slightly different story.

S-D while agree this thread generated some interesting discussion its just my opinion when the last whole page was spent discussion how good certain pills were and the size peoples pupils go on E then that is a good indicator it has ran its course.
 
Some itneresting figures there Biscuit, I don't even take pills anymore so who knows maybe those are accurate but I do have to say a quick look on pillreports paints a slightly different story.

S-D while agree this thread generated some interesting discussion its just my opinion when the last whole page was spent discussion how good certain pills were and the size peoples pupils go on E then that is a good indicator it has ran its course.

I have more faith in anything Biscuit says than info from Pillreports. Oh for a return to the x score pills - i remember having a red HQ after a mates wedding in 01 and struggling to handle the onset. Geez they were strong bikkies. I think the crooks worked out they sell more pills if they make them weaker.
 
Some of the x score pills
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The following info is from a DEA Microgram bulletin from 2003 about the x score lab bust.

The DEA Singapore Country Office and DEA Special Testing and Research Laboratory (Dulles, Virginia) recently assisted in the seizure of a very large MDMA/amphetamine operation in Tangerang, Jakarta, Indonesia. The laboratory was seized by the Indonesian National Police, and consisted of a chemical synthesis laboratory and a separate tabletting operation. The synthetic route to MDMA involved reductive amination of 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone (MDP2P or PMK) with methylamine and sodium borohydride; the hydrochloride salt was produced by gassing an acetone solution of the free base with commercial hydrochloric acid gas. The amphetamine was synthesized via the Leuckart reduction route, and was crystallized as the sulfate salt. Small amounts of MDA were also produced by contamination of the amphetamine syntheses with MDP2P (and MDA was therefore identified in some of the resulting tablets). The production scale was 60 - 90 kilograms per batch, corresponding to 428,000 to 642,000 tablets per batch, based on a standard dosage unit of 140 milligrams of MDMA per tablet. Over 100 kilograms of MDMA hydrochloride (>90 percent purity), over 10 kilograms of amphetamine sulfate (>90 percent purity), over 100 kilograms of caffeine, and over 1.5 metric tons of MDP2P (determined to be of Chinese (PRC) manufacture) were seized at the site. Intelligence indicated that the laboratory had been in operation for approximately three years, and also that approximately 3.5 metric tons of MDP2P had already been processed prior to the laboratory's seizure.
 
Biscuits comments on the strength of those pills were right on the money - standard unit dose was 140 mg - ahhh those were the days!
 
people have been rating the year mdma died for almost 20 years.

dj has been rolling on and off since 93 and not a year goes by that people don't reminisce about the "good old days". whilst this may partly be because most people acclimatise themselves to the substances effects and get past the "honeymoon period", I can say on the other hand that mid nineties pills got you absolutely skullfucked and peaked for (seemingly) hours!

mitsi turbos anyone?
 
Like you DJ .. i've been rolling a long time... 89 was my first... I can say that the x score pills ..( and others like the yellow xo's ) around in the mid 90's thru to the early 2000's were a lot stronger than whats around today. As biscuit said... there is plenty of mdma pills around... its just they are weak as catspiss generally.
 
The date mdma pills died in EU was 2004-2005. Ive come across alot of good beans but in my eyes they were really only average compared to the good old days. And yea 140-180mg beans were awesome:) One was enough for a nite. I never had more than 2. Rolled off half. Who rolls off half thesedays?
 
So, the main reason lack of MDMA is safrol. I've never been to Australia but i know that it must one safrole-containing tree - Cinnamomum oliveri, known as Black Sassafras or Oliver's Sassafras, an Australian rain forest laurel.
 
Schlaang you don't have any safrole percentages for Cinnamomum Oliveri do you?

Reason I ask is that Cinnamomum Camphora is even more widespread than Oliveri, and is considered an noxious weed so you'd be doing everyone A favour by chopping them down and magic some beatiful MDMA with them :)
 
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These quotes may provide you with the information you're after. :)

Firstly, while there's good info in the page, much of it no doubt reliable, there are a couple of points worth noting.

1) The referenced 'safrole FAQ' has been shown to have errors, and probably shouldn't be relied on. It lists a broad range of safrole levels in particular chemotypes of Cinnamomum camphora of between 50-80%. My own uni studies on this revealed a much lower average which was confirmed by other Australian researchers. The chemotypes (cineole and camphor) are impossible to discern between from physical appearance.

2) References to % content that are pre 1950's must be seen in context with the technology of the day. The means to fully evaluate such levels were not available at that time. Some methods such as fractional distillation, chromatography etc. of course were available, but trace level analysis was a far cry from what it is today. So, any ref from that period should be confirmed with a more recent finding.

3) Steam distillation is simple but it won't separate many of the other constituents from safrole. If the boiling points of the constituents are within ~10-15 deg C of each other, fractional distillation will not be a practical option (unless you're very good and know all the tricks). Other means can be used though....


The plant I've heard that has been used in Aus as a source of safrole is Eremophila longifolia (weeping Emu bush). As the oil is present in sufficient quantities it should make extraction relatively easy.

Just on toxicity: While I believe there has been some hype in regards to the max levels of exposure and postulated human LD50 levels, I would advise caution if coming in contact with this allylbenzene - particularly if this is for the long durations needed to process the plant material and oils. If you are predisposed, or on certain medications, the potential for toxicity is likely to be more significant.

The law and stinky stuff....

To those who think they might have a go at producing safrole; be well aware that it's regarded by the law as a precursor (although chemically speaking it isn't) and will carry potential penalties similar to possessing / refining pseudoephedrine.

Also, safrole will permeate everything, and working with it will likely result in the odour being detected some distance from the source. Spills can stink for many months later no matter what is done to clean up.

Oh really? And just how much safrole have you seen successfully extracted? Yes, it can be done, either via old Chinese methods (Gunther; Essential Oils Vol 3) or more modern techniques but the procedures are not easy without a guide, and are nowhere to be found online afaik (A uni project I was involved in some years ago involved this work)

Also, the figures from that website are not reflective of the average levels in the more commonly distributed chemotypes. Check out the work of Brett Stubbs

Essential Oil of Cinnamomum Camphora (L.) Nees and Eberm. - Variation in Oil Composition Throughout the Tree in Two Chemotypes from Eastern Australia by Brett J. Stubbs, Alison Specht and Don Brushett

An online version may still be available free, but unfortunately the tables are not included. Stubbs found safrole levels of up to 55% in the inner branch wood oil, but the averages were much lower. Also, Stubbs was not able to provide a means of distinguishing between the cineole and camphor chemotypes, the former of which contains little to no safrole.

As for the worldwide shortage. Perhaps it has something to do with the situation Nanobrain mentioned a while ago where he indicated there was a shortage of MDP2P in Europe.
 
I took my first good pill around a year ago now which was a White Mercedes, since then I can literally count the number of good pills ive had on one hand... Green Squirrel, Blue T Star, Yellow !, Fluro Green/Pink Mighty Mouse. It shits me to think il never have a pill like they were back in the day. It also shits me when I have to demonstrate that pills mates take are shit when they think they are good becuase they feel something/anything. After eating 2 pills, feeling no good effects, vomiting 4 times... NO! IT WAS NOT FROM DRINKING ONE V ENERGY SHOT IT WAS THE SHIT PILLS THAT YOU BUY REGULARY AND TAKE! :X
 
The date mdma pills died in EU was 2004-2005. Ive come across alot of good beans but in my eyes they were really only average compared to the good old days. And yea 140-180mg beans were awesome:) One was enough for a nite. I never had more than 2. Rolled off half. Who rolls off half thesedays?

Got the lab results handy for the '140-180mg beans'?
 
Got the lab results handy for the '140-180mg beans'?



Cant be fuked searching the lab test results but if u search red mitsubishis that were in Europe in 2002-2003 they were 180mg each. We were flooded with high mdma pills for years. When i was caught with beans my beans tested up as 110mg each and they wernt the best ones ive had by far.

Dont know whats up with ur sarcastic posts anyway. U prob havnt even seen any decent beans in ur life dissing what i say all the time.
 
Nah, i've never had a good pill in my life. Im so envious of you, please go easy on me.

Shame the Red Mitsubishi's were quanted at 120mg MDMA and 40mg Caffeine.

You say you cant be fucked searching for lab results, what lab results do you even have access too?
 
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