Reason for the Global MDMA Crisis (GMC)

[Sustanon]

LOL. If winning is replacing one drug with other (imo) worse drugs, then yes, it sure has been "won"


So what year do we put down as the year that MDMA died?

For me i put it down to the end of 2004. The shit pills that people rate high MDxx now would be a low. If half a pill doesnt make u roll then its weak IMO.

 

[Seith]

For me i put it down to the end of 2004. The shit pills that people rate high MDxx now would be a low. If half a pill doesnt make u roll then its weak IMO.

I hate it how people rate mediocre pills high aswell. Every now and again a decent pill will pop up but they still don't compare to the pills from a few years ago. It makes me upset . I am just hoping they will legalize MDMA in my lifetime .

 

[MrIbis]

^agreed end of 04. for sure

 

[Sustanon]

Its really weird tho because i was saying it ended at the end of 2004 but this was in EU. I think the worlds source originated from Netherlands/Belgium? Heard of a bust around that time and was hard to score after that a little bit. Plus all the logos that were back then i have not seen around. Oval shaped LOVE for example or Tortoise shaped white ones. My god them 2 where so professionally made.

 

[psytaco]

I hate it how people rate mediocre pills high aswell. Every now and again a decent pill will pop up but they still don't compare to the pills from a few years ago. It makes me upset . I am just hoping they will legalize MDMA in my lifetime .

I think you have to remember that it is done in comparison to what is currently on the market. most pills are pretty crap atm, so when a decent one comes around people will give it a good rating. but if you compared them to what you were getting 3 years ago, then you would give it low-medium rating. i think its a more informative rating if you compare them to what has been going around recently.

off topic - I got some beige euros. Widely reported to be a good dose of MDEA or MDA. Won't be dropping them for a while 9ok I say that now but who knows). Anyone had any experience with these?

 

[filenet]

aaaaahhhhhh the pills that were so hard they could chip a tooth, so strong you dosed in halves and rarely had more than 2 and so well presented it was almost art....RIP Dec 03

off topic but you have to chuckle at the young punters these days claiming they have the gift in detecting MDEA in pills? rather interesting considering that out of the 1765 pills GC/MS analysed by ecstasydata.org and/or DEA over the last 13years, only 71 contained MDEA (with the last one being back in 2005!)

 

[rolls]

Did you know the TGA told me I was allowed to import Fliperazine (when I gave them the full chemical name). Obviously BZP is the main concern but I rememeber BZP not being as harsh as the stuff in pills these days. I think cocktails of piperazines in pip pills are more common than people think

 

[rolls]

aaaaahhhhhh the pills that were so hard they could chip a tooth, so strong you dosed in halves and rarely had more than 2 and so well presented it was almost art....RIP Dec 03

off topic but you have to chuckle at the young punters these days claiming they have the gift in detecting MDEA in pills? rather interesting considering that out of the 1765 pills GC/MS analysed by ecstasydata.org and/or DEA over the last 13years, only 71 contained MDEA (with the last one being back in 2005!)

I think more to the point is that people will call a low dose MDMA pill with the purity of less than 60-65% or so, and possibly adulterated with something like an antihistamine, maybe for a binding agent (Piricitan most likely or binned pills) do actually synergise somewhat and make MDMA feel more smacky but you're not going to feel love ro clean-ness off a low dose pill that was made using impure MDMA

MDEA has definitely been around dude its probably just not found as much because the chemical used at the end isn't watched or as watched.

 

[Care]

So what year do we put down as the year that MDMA died?

MDMA is far from dead where I live. The last three times i've done E (over the last 4-5 months) have been some of the cleanest ever.

Come visit me in cali and i'll show you some pure MDMA.

 

[Lovegrud]

MDMA is far from dead where I live. The last three times i've done E (over the last 4-5 months) have been some of the cleanest ever.

Come visit me in cali and i'll show you some pure MDMA.

Lucky....

Australia is getting dry but Melb is particularly bad, quality is loosing out madly. mind you amps are getting larger though.

I couldnt imagine what Tas is going through.

 

[Seith]

off topic but you have to chuckle at the young punters these days claiming they have the gift in detecting MDEA in pills? rather interesting considering that out of the 1765 pills GC/MS analysed by ecstasydata.org and/or DEA over the last 13years, only 71 contained MDEA (with the last one being back in 2005!)

Off topic aswell but you also have to laugh at the people that winge about the people that post on pillreports yet never seem to put up any reports or just generally help out with useful information themselves.

 

[Sustanon]

MDMA is far from dead where I live. The last three times i've done E (over the last 4-5 months) have been some of the cleanest ever.

Come visit me in cali and i'll show you some pure MDMA.

I was talkin bout Australia and most parts of Europe. U Americans are very lucky. Getting that nice pure Canadian Molly.

 

[chugs]

If MDMA was so har to make and chemist/gangs were moving to cheaper and easier alternatives then how is that any makes LSD? If you want to talk Out hard then it gets no harder then LSD. Yet there is still margin in it. Furthermore there isn't even a reagent test for it. Sooooo the reasons why MDMA is not on the market can not be boiled down to uninformed pinters not testing, nor cost or complexity

 

[MilliVanilli]

If MDMA was so har to make and chemist/gangs were moving to cheaper and easier alternatives then how is that any makes LSD? If you want to talk Out hard then it gets no harder then LSD. Yet there is still margin in it. Furthermore there isn't even a reagent test for it. Sooooo the reasons why MDMA is not on the market can not be boiled down to uninformed pinters not testing, nor cost or complexity

I'm not saying I am right, but a guess would be that the precursors for LSD have far less laws surrounding them as opposed to the precursors for MDMA.

 

[phase_dancer]

If MDMA was so har to make and chemist/gangs were moving to cheaper and easier alternatives then how is that any makes LSD? If you want to talk Out hard then it gets no harder then LSD.

Compared to a typical MDMA synth, some LSD synths would be quite hard, but as far as org synth as a whole is concerned, it's not that difficult. In fact, if pure ergotamine was available it's pretty straight forward. The biggest crunch with a typical LSD synth is the need for large chromatography columns and expense of the stationary phase.

Furthermore there isn't even a reagent test for it.

There are actually a few variations employing p-DMAB. Van Urk test (pp-dimethylaminobenzaldehyde aka p-DMAB + ethanol + HCl) has a limit of detection for LSD of 6ug.

 

[phase_dancer]

I'm not saying I am right, but a guess would be that the precursors for LSD have far less laws surrounding them as opposed to the precursors for MDMA.

No, LSD precursors are tightly controlled. Ergotamine is used to treat migraine, but only in very small amounts. Diversion from this source would therefore be unlikely. iirc, Lysergic acid was listed shortly after LSD became illegal in the sixties

 

[Care]

I was talkin bout Australia and most parts of Europe. U Americans are very lucky. Getting that nice pure Canadian Molly.

Hmm i've heard alot of the MDMA in my area comes through the SF bay area, not canada, but I dont really know for sure.

 

[filenet]

...Ergotamine is used to treat migraine, but only in very small amounts...

haha! so that episode of House had some truth in it...

 

[Luude]

From what i understand, LSD precursors are more heavily watched than MDMA.

As for good MDMA in Australia, its definitely around, whether its in roundies is another question but fantastic safrole derived MDMA is doing the rounds, and i must say its fantastic.

 

[phase_dancer]

Luude, the above comments have more to do with your synth instructions. Unless necessary to illustrate a point relative to HR, such discussion is not allowed. Please read the posting guidelines for this forum.