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Real truth behind mixing ADDY & XANAX?

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bluntedskier

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I have been on a writing binge for the last several days to make a major deadline. I am on Lithium for alleged bipolar/or some kind of mood disorder and prescribed Xanax for my anxiety problems.

Obviously taking Adderall, especially consecutive days in a row, is not good for me. Yesterday I took 50 mg (not at once, over like a 5 hour time period). I drink LOTS of fluids (gatorade, water, juice), as to not risk any dehydration. I also have taken vitamins and even chugged a bunch of carrot juice and vegetable juice..... and make sure that I force myself to still eat breakfast, lunch and dinner.

And Drugs.com for example finds no interaction between Benzos and Adderall. So, through the duration of the adderall 'high', I intermittently take small amounts of Xanax with it. Like .5mg here, and then maybe 45 minutes later, .25mg, etc...... just to

I have a high tolerance to xanax, but not to Adderall. I find myself SWEATING BALLS underneath my arms... it's ridiculous. This is due to the adderall, correct? Is this okay? I'm talking like just-ran-a-mile soaked. Once again, I am drinking plenty of fluids (especially cause of the Lithium, which scares me)

But then I've heard people say while it's not 'speedballing,' it kind of is, in it's own effect isn't it? Your heart is dealing with upper and downer - mixing a stimulant with a CNS depressant (xanax). Why isn't this apparently bad/dangerous then?

I never overdo either of them. I have taken 10mg adderall this morning, but I think I'm going to go grab another 15mg for a final push... and I will definitely be using xanax with that so that I don't have a horrible crash.
 
Also, I don't have any known heart complications and I have always been extremely healthy. (I had an accidental overdose (164mg, I thought it was equivalent to about 40mg adderall.... dumb) where I was released with the prognosis of 'heart palpitations' concerta, and the doctors at the ER said not to worry. Obviously I stayed away from any time of stimulant for a long time after that.

I'm not really concerned, and it might be partly anxiety/placebo effect, but my heart beat feels definitely a little off. Called my doc, just to make sure all of this was good, but of course no ones around.

I can't imagine that I am doing anything that harmful.
 
i'm not exactly sure what you're question is but i'll throw out some thoughts. first off, you mention that you take lithium for "alleged" bipolar that is being treated with lithium. so now we're talking about mixing adderall, xanax, lithium and there's the possibility that you're bipolar. i'm sure you're aware that bipolar and stims aren't known for playing nice. couple that with the binge aspect of your adderall use and, as you mention, not all that high of a tolerance to amps. dude, in my opinion, throwing back a few xanax is not your main problem here. and anyway, adderall and xanax are concurrently prescribed regularly enough that using them together isn't really anything to write home about. i was RX'd both at moderate dosages for years without a problem at all. my familiarity with lithium is limited to knowing it's a mood stabilizer that's a bitch to take because of the narrow window between a therapeutic dose and a toxic dose. i know nothing of its possible interactions with xanax or adderall but it would seem to make sense that it could also play some role in this. i digress... i will quickly say that amps+xanax is not "speedballing" nor is "kind of" like doing a speedball. an ocean of difference there. but back on point... from the little information you provided here, stop taking adderall would be my first advice. my second advice would be to see your doctor and get a more clear understanding of your possible bipolar disorder. *i am no doctor* but from what you've shared here, i'm gonna guess that the adderall you've been taking has exacerbated whatever bipolar (or other mood disorder you have) and you've become hypomanic and quite anxious.
 
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i'm not exactly sure what you're question is but i'll throw out some thoughts. first off, you mention that you take lithium for "alleged" bipolar that is being treated with lithium. so now we're talking about mixing adderall, xanax, lithium and there's the possibility that you're bipolar. i'm sure you're aware that bipolar and stims aren't known for playing nice. couple that with the binge aspect of your adderall use and, as you mention, not all that high of a tolerance to amps. dude, in my opinion, throwing back a few xanax is not your main problem here. and anyway, adderall and xanax are concurrently prescribed regularly enough that using them together isn't really anything to write home about. i was RX'd both at moderate dosages for years without a problem at all. my familiarity with lithium is limited to knowing it's a mood stabilizer that's a bitch to take because of the narrow window between a therapeutic dose and a toxic dose. i know nothing of its possible interactions with xanax or adderall but it would seem to make sense that it could also play some role in this. i digress... i will quickly say that amps+xanax is not "speedballing" nor is "kind of" like doing a speedball. an ocean of difference there. but back on point... from the little information you provided here, stop taking adderall would be my first advice. my second advice would be to see your doctor and get a more clear understanding of your possible bipolar disorder. *i am no doctor* but from what you've shared here, i'm gonna guess that the adderall you've been taking has exacerbated whatever bipolar (or other mood disorder you have) and you've become hypomanic and quite anxious.
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I appreciate the response man.... rare to see wise words online these days. And to the other guy - yes I apologize, I was pretty fucking geeked out apparently when I posted that... and I didn't even realize it.

I took a final 15mg of adderall tonight, along with a huge dinner and lots of healthy drinks..... but it will definitely be the last of it, at least for a very long time. I have an appointment with my psychiatrist tomorrow.

But yes, I will admit I have formed an addiction to Adderall, and it sucks. This does not mean I take it a lot, but when it comes my way, I can pretty much never resist.

I've always been a very naturally creative and entrepreneurial kid. Constantly thinking of new concepts, creating and monetizing websites, flipping domains (fuck you Oodle Inc), selling some published stories, shooting and editing film, starting a clothing company etc... However, this anxiety/bipolar issue has really put up a road block. And that is why I guess Adderall appeals so much to me. Even though I am well aware that it creates nothing more than a very temporary, superficial state of mind for me - it lets what I am naturally capable of flow again and seem easy like it once used to be.

I BBM'd my doc quick, and he said it's not healthy, but nothing to worry about in terms of serious interactions. Along with the fact I have to present a feature length treatment that I am only half way through right now, in front of a Harvard class for a 2 hour review & grading..... I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be absolutely miserable haha. Especially with half my normal serotonin.

I was just hoping someone here would relate to me. I just find it amazing how differently people are affected by the same drugs. I'm not geeked out this time but I am definitely ranting again... when I need to get back to this shit... I should know this but what is the average amount of time it takes a person to build back to their full serotonin level?


I miss the days before all this bullshit.... where I just smoked ganja.... and that was that.
 
Well, taking a low dose of benzodiazepines like Xanax with amphetamines is a rather nice combination and its safe. I like to take a low dose of Clonazepam or Alprazolam with Adderall because it gets rid of the negative side effects. So yeah, its alright to do.

By the way, it is not anything close to a speedball. A speedball requires an opiate. If combined with amphetamines, rather than cocaine & a prescription opiate, rather than heroin, I call it a "pharmy speedball". Nothing like a real speedball, you know...IV boy & girl.
 
The combination is fine as long as you're at the therapeutic or responsible recreational doses of benzos.

If you're at the blacked-out-and-acting-like-a-moron stage from excessive benzo dose, where it's in your best interest for the benzos to knock you the hell out before you get yourself in trouble, amphetamines make it more likely that you'll stay up instead, and do more active (and hence more dangerous) stupid things.
 
Id like to reiterate, for the sake of the original poster's future mental (and thus, life) situations, that stimulants will definitely induce mania followed by larger than normal mood crashes, and in my educated opinion, you must stop taking speed in any form. You'll be much more stable day-to-day, and it will be a lot easier to rebound from depression and mania and return yourself to your normal. productive self.

Best of luck, brotha, as I, too, suffer from a similar (if not identical) set of symptoms and reactions.

All the best,

~ vaya =D
 
IDK, he's not taking that high a dose of adderall. I've seen bipolar patients prescribed 60mg twice a day. The combination with a benzo has never caused a medical problem for me, but it fucks my already shitty memory in the ass, more so than the benzo alone.

I'm also bipolar and the only stim that's every triggered a manic episode (a terrifying, almost intolerable mixed episode) was MDPV. On the other hand, some bipolar patients can't even take caffeine without issues. Be careful, you do NOT want to trigger a mixed episode.

You say you're "allegedly" bipolar. You probably want to find out for sure. Some people record their moods every day to track their episodes and what hurts/helps, just add a simple 1-10 rating or w/e to a spreadsheet at the end of the day, and record if you've taken anything questionable or if you make med changes.

Hmm, what else... Most doctors will not use lithium as a first choice med. It's an excellent mood stabilizer, but it's hard to find the right dose and the side effects are kinda shitty. Course, if it's working for you and you don't notice any side effects, don't switch. Ask about lyrica or neurontin for your anxiety, it's been extremely effective for me. As an added bonus, these may help with mood stabilization as well.
 
slowdive said:
I've said it here several times, but mixing uppers and downers is a big NO-NO
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Its a myth that mixing uppers & downers cause harmful heart problems. IT DOESN'T. You hear so many problems about people who speedball in the vein, the only reason why is because they overdose on one of the two, usually the H. Some people just don't know their tolerance to one or the other and not everyone tests their product before pumping the needle.
 
I'm prescribed 2mgs of Klonopin with 40mgs of Ritalin daily, I frequently don't take the Ritalin and take Dexedrine instead just because I like it better and it's easy to obtain around here. I think half of the people I know who use drugs are prescribed some kind of amp/benzo combo so it can't be that dangerous when taken in therapeutic doses.

Then again I'm not a doctor.

I wouldn't worry about it though, it sounds like you're responsible about it. I don't think I ever called a doctor when I used to binge on amphetamines to excess, I'd just sit there with my heart beating out of my chest praying to god I didn't die.... and then drink a few gin and tonics take a xanax and forget about it.
 
LOL you sound so spun from your first few posts...reminds me when I first started taking addys and posting on here :P

I am perscribed adderall and when I take it I take about 40mgs total.

Yes I get the exact same shit with the sweating. Really is annoying but what are you gunna do. i would suggest a darker shirt so it doesn't look like your sweating your ass off

I take xanax with and after doing addys: A small dose during calms you down if your speeding hard, and they work like magic while coming down.
 
mix em ALL the time, one of my favorite combos. The adderall cancels out the lethargic/slow/dumb feeling you get from the benzos, and the benzos take the edge/nervousness away from the adderall. excellent combo
 
slowdive said:
I've said it here several times, but mixing uppers and downers is a big NO-NO
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only if opiates are the downer...

Usually people die when speedballing because the opiates slow down the respiratory system, while the uppers increase heart rate, thus increasing the need for respiratory function (that has been decreased by the opiate), causing the user to die of heart failure/lack of oxygen etc.

The speeds make you need to breathe harder, the opiates prevent it from happening.
 
Taking Adderall & Xanax together is no more dangerous than taking just Adderall or just Xanax is. I'm prescribed both Adderall & Xanax, & no doctor has ever said anything to me about not combining the two... Plus I've been doing it for years with no negative consequences to my health, long term or short term.
I believe "speedballing" generally refers to mixing a Stimulant with a Narcotic, & Xanax certainly isn't a Narcotic.
 
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