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Simba
Bluelighter
OK Everyone, I just got home from my night out (um...it's 9:20 pm the next night) and I didn't do it, I didn't try drinking my piss 'cause diarrhoea doesn't sound like fun to me, but when I had a piss at about 7:30 this morning I nearly cried watching all that e run down the urinal and into the drain
I hope that someone(with more balls than me) will try it and tell us if it's worth it.
DAMN I'M SCATTERED
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Simba
I hope that someone(with more balls than me) will try it and tell us if it's worth it.
DAMN I'M SCATTERED
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Simba
johnboy
Bluelight Crew
how many different ways can we say "no, there is no way to do it and it wouldnt be worth it anyway"
please if any of you have any lingering doubts go read the hive thread that gooosh started... and check out how ludicrous the bees over there think it is...
please if any of you have any lingering doubts go read the hive thread that gooosh started... and check out how ludicrous the bees over there think it is...
Orange Juice
Bluelighter
I am currently in the process of making a list of everyone who has positively posted on this thread, so that later on I can remember to have NO respect for you.
You guys make me laugh. Honestly, it is shit like this that makes the drug illegal! "We have found that consumption of e on a regular basis can cause the user to contemplate drinking their very own urine". I can see that this will be the next useless study to come out of some far-away country somewhere.
Seriously now. If the statistics are correct, and 60% of the MDMA contained in your pill is passed through the body untouched, why the hell are we trying to boil our fucking piss to extract the remainder!? It is obvious that the pills that we are taking have extremely poor absorption rates (40%!).
I think that there are a number of things that we could do from here on in. To increase absorption, we need to adjust the method in which the drug is administered. At the moment, we administer the pill orally in tablet form. Unfortunately for us, tablets are one of the lowest absorbed forms in which a drug can be taken. This applies to pharmaceutical drugs which contain certain excipients which ensure that the drug reaches the designated parts of the body (ie some tablets/capsules contain maltodextrin which explodes when contact is made with the acid in your stomach). I don't know if anybody has ever gone to the trouble to test exactly what is in an e? Some pills contain pure MDMA, some contain 90% etc. These figures would lead me to believe that the pills have absolutely no excipients in them whatsoever, thus are not being absorbed into the body as good as they could be.
If we wish to take one step further, pills could be administered in a hard-gel capsule, or the next step would be a soft-gel capsule. Our main problem is that there are only a limited number of soft-gel capsule manufacturers in Australia (you can count them on your thumb), and you will probably find that they would not be so ready to produce e for us yet! Seeing that the method is just taking off, no machines are available second hand, or stolen for underground manufacturers to buy.
It's all about absorption! A soft-gel capsule is approximately 3 times better absorbed than a hard-gel cap, which in turn is slightly better absorbed than a tablet. If this was ever to occur, which I imagine it will as a 'new and improved' form of e, expect to pay two to three times more (the method is a shit-load more expensive to implement) however we will have the super-drug of the new millenium at our fingertips!
Or you could resort to boiling your urine.
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IMPORTANT NOTICE: CONSUMPTION OF e! CAUSES EXCESS SKINNY DIPPING WITH FRIENDS.
"Come in, it's really warm"!
Keep Rolling.
You guys make me laugh. Honestly, it is shit like this that makes the drug illegal! "We have found that consumption of e on a regular basis can cause the user to contemplate drinking their very own urine". I can see that this will be the next useless study to come out of some far-away country somewhere.
Seriously now. If the statistics are correct, and 60% of the MDMA contained in your pill is passed through the body untouched, why the hell are we trying to boil our fucking piss to extract the remainder!? It is obvious that the pills that we are taking have extremely poor absorption rates (40%!).
I think that there are a number of things that we could do from here on in. To increase absorption, we need to adjust the method in which the drug is administered. At the moment, we administer the pill orally in tablet form. Unfortunately for us, tablets are one of the lowest absorbed forms in which a drug can be taken. This applies to pharmaceutical drugs which contain certain excipients which ensure that the drug reaches the designated parts of the body (ie some tablets/capsules contain maltodextrin which explodes when contact is made with the acid in your stomach). I don't know if anybody has ever gone to the trouble to test exactly what is in an e? Some pills contain pure MDMA, some contain 90% etc. These figures would lead me to believe that the pills have absolutely no excipients in them whatsoever, thus are not being absorbed into the body as good as they could be.
If we wish to take one step further, pills could be administered in a hard-gel capsule, or the next step would be a soft-gel capsule. Our main problem is that there are only a limited number of soft-gel capsule manufacturers in Australia (you can count them on your thumb), and you will probably find that they would not be so ready to produce e for us yet! Seeing that the method is just taking off, no machines are available second hand, or stolen for underground manufacturers to buy.
It's all about absorption! A soft-gel capsule is approximately 3 times better absorbed than a hard-gel cap, which in turn is slightly better absorbed than a tablet. If this was ever to occur, which I imagine it will as a 'new and improved' form of e, expect to pay two to three times more (the method is a shit-load more expensive to implement) however we will have the super-drug of the new millenium at our fingertips!
Or you could resort to boiling your urine.
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IMPORTANT NOTICE: CONSUMPTION OF e! CAUSES EXCESS SKINNY DIPPING WITH FRIENDS.
"Come in, it's really warm"!
Keep Rolling.
johnboy
Bluelight Crew
it has nothing to do with gel caps or any method of ingesting it. your body can only process so much MDMA/MDA, it just chucks the excess out in your urine.
there is only one way to prevent this: genetically engineer your body to metabloiseit in a different way.
until someone works out how to do that just live with it ok? geez pills prices just keep dropping and you lot are still not happy!!
there is only one way to prevent this: genetically engineer your body to metabloiseit in a different way.
until someone works out how to do that just live with it ok? geez pills prices just keep dropping and you lot are still not happy!!
You guys just have the best threads! I've laughed so much at this one that I've just spilt three pills down the inside of my trouser leg...................
Johnboy/Anjele: do you guys have a rule or something that you can only post if you're off your face?
I'm going to have to create alink to this from the Europe board (if you have no objections).
[This message has been edited by paddyboy (edited 28 May 2000).]
Johnboy/Anjele: do you guys have a rule or something that you can only post if you're off your face?
I'm going to have to create alink to this from the Europe board (if you have no objections).
[This message has been edited by paddyboy (edited 28 May 2000).]
Simba
Bluelighter
O.J.:- chill mate, I wouldn't of ever done it, it was just a joke but it was a shame knowing that all that mdma was going to waste.
J.B.:- if that's true about uor bodys only being able to process a certain amount of mdma at a time then how come a pill with 150mg affects us more than a pill with 75mg?
do we pass the same 60% of the mdma through our urine no matter how much was in the pill?
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Simba
J.B.:- if that's true about uor bodys only being able to process a certain amount of mdma at a time then how come a pill with 150mg affects us more than a pill with 75mg?
do we pass the same 60% of the mdma through our urine no matter how much was in the pill?
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Simba
johnboy
Bluelight Crew
its true because the threshold of what your body can process is not to do with the overall dosage so much as how long its got to process it. arrgh this biochemistry bit is beyond me, if someone would like to clearly explain it i would appreciate it...
Drug Dustbin
Bluelighter
Than more you take MDMA, than more you excrete it as unchanged.
The formation of HMMA (the main metabolite of MDMA) is almost constant
and independent of the dose administered. This means that the liver
enzymes responsible for MDMA metabolism are quite easily saturated or
inhibited by MDMA or its metabolites. Beacuse of that, greater amount
is excreted as unchanged in urine within 24 hours. This renal excretion
is also dependent on urinary pH.
The formation of HMMA (the main metabolite of MDMA) is almost constant
and independent of the dose administered. This means that the liver
enzymes responsible for MDMA metabolism are quite easily saturated or
inhibited by MDMA or its metabolites. Beacuse of that, greater amount
is excreted as unchanged in urine within 24 hours. This renal excretion
is also dependent on urinary pH.
lonelygroover
Bluelighter
oh, please! how much trouble r u going to go through to extract mdma from ur piss? man, jus have another pill! n u won't have to think about it. 
johnboy
Bluelight Crew
thank you mr bin, i knew i could count on you to tell it like it is
johnboy
Bluelight Crew
oh you bastard horse... how could you bump this one up... gonna slap you when next you come in the store...
I'd considered it, once. I think at least half the people that read this thread and those that have smoked a lot of cones and possibly taken acid with pills would have considered this.
But it does make sense that no-ones ever done it. I would do it. But only if I was pilling out in the middle of a dessert with no way of getting to any water for several days.
But it does make sense that no-ones ever done it. I would do it. But only if I was pilling out in the middle of a dessert with no way of getting to any water for several days.
narks
Bluelighter
what i want to know is..
if you plug the bastards and it is absorbed into your blood and thus around your body..
why is it that the shit isn't absorbed into your own blood making us all full of shit???
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rollin' and strollin', its kinda like bowlin'. my head's kinda big and it feels kinda swollin'!!
if you plug the bastards and it is absorbed into your blood and thus around your body..
why is it that the shit isn't absorbed into your own blood making us all full of shit???
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rollin' and strollin', its kinda like bowlin'. my head's kinda big and it feels kinda swollin'!!
Tarsarlan
Bluelighter
BWAHAHAHHAHA I can't believe I missed this one
Ok, so I know I few of us would have read the Dune series by the great Frack Herbert. So what we need to do is make up one of the suits the Fremen wore when they were out in the desert. For those who don't know these suits would recycle all their bodily wastes, including sweat, so that they wouldn't die of thirst in the desert world that was Dune.
If someone could make me such a suit I'd wear it to a rave, just put some reflectors on it and make if fluro and they'd sell like hot cakes covered in MDMA-infused-urine-syrup!
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Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days the statue.
Ok, so I know I few of us would have read the Dune series by the great Frack Herbert. So what we need to do is make up one of the suits the Fremen wore when they were out in the desert. For those who don't know these suits would recycle all their bodily wastes, including sweat, so that they wouldn't die of thirst in the desert world that was Dune.
If someone could make me such a suit I'd wear it to a rave, just put some reflectors on it and make if fluro and they'd sell like hot cakes covered in MDMA-infused-urine-syrup!
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Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days the statue.
VinylChef
Bluelighter
In full agreement Tarslarlan
Stillsuits at raves is the most awesome idea! Not only are they perfect MDMA reprocessing machines but they recycle all that water you normally sweat out when rolling hard and dancing your guts out.
(I think Mr Frank Herbert was a secret peaker and was really onto somethin...)
Stillsuits at raves is the most awesome idea! Not only are they perfect MDMA reprocessing machines but they recycle all that water you normally sweat out when rolling hard and dancing your guts out.
(I think Mr Frank Herbert was a secret peaker and was really onto somethin...)
johnboy
Bluelight Crew
i couldn't resist
