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Fionn

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A little Context.

I'm a 16 Year old male, no depression or mental issues, who has some experience and interest in recreational drugs.
I've taken drugs which vary from MDMA to Salvia to Morphine. But none include any Psychedelic drugs.

I know some people say this would be too young of an age to be trying any Psychedelics, but I feel I'm missing out on something.
I usually do much research before taking any chemical so I know of all the psychological dangers and what not, but I know I don't know everything until I tried the drug itself.
And this would be the best place to ask, after all, It has a forum dedicated to it! :D

So, from an outside perspective, would I be doing more harm than good?
And if I do decide to take it, what I am in for? (apart from the obvious)

Thanks :)
 
The first time I took a hallucinogenic I was 16 years and one month old. Nobody can tell you if you're ready but yourself. Out of all of the chemicals you could start with, I think LSD is a great candidate, just so long as it's actually LSD. The first time I ever tripped was on DPT, and I think that LSD is a bit more forgiving, but each chemical reacts differently with different people. Make sure that if you do it you are in a safe environment, i.e. indoors for your first few trips. Also, a spotter wouldn't be a bad idea. At the very least have someone that is experienced with the chemical in question. I am extremely grateful for my experiences on hallucinogenics.

Be safe, start low, learn, enjoy, and welcome!
Noah
 
Yes you are too young. You will probably have the time of your life, come away with many thoughts and ideas that will motivate and change your life forever but these are things that will still be there in a few years time. You will be more experience in life, and while this may appear condescending come from an old(er) codger, you will appreciate the gift of LSD so much more. you run off a check list of drugs you have used but I'll ask you what have you gained from each experiment? We're you able to embrace each drug in a healthy environment or were there times you had to hide your use from your parents, with the added burden of paranoia and anxiety?. Drug use is more fun when you have complete freedom. You will understand what I mean the day you walk naked from your bedroom to your kitchen high as a kite, make a meal and sit down in your lounge surrounded by everything that is important to you, safe in the knowledge that the rest of the day or even weekend is for you and your psychedelic journey. The added pressure of not wanting to make eye contact or answer awkward questions from a suspicious parent is reason enough not to take LSD at 16.

I'll ignore the well researched evidence that drugs at such a young age is detrimental to brain development and instead direct you to the dark side or some other less "fluffy" threads here at Bluelight. A common theme for many members who started early was either a spiral into a drug centric lifestyle ( be it full blown addiction or loss of friends or regret of lost opportunities) or they simply lost the magic and no longer enjoyed drugs at all. The experience of using drugs differ when you are a child or adult, and it would be a shame if you burnt out and didn't get to enjoy the freedom of adult drug use.

You are worried that you are missing out in something and you are right. Have you ever made love under a waterfall? Have you felt the wind on your face as you tightend the mainsail of a yacht and sailed across the open ocean? I would recommend either of these things well before LSD. At 16 you should be trying to save as many brain cells as possible so you make life as easy as possible in the future . Working hard at school now will allow you to sit in a hot tub on a mountain top at thirty, doing lines of blow off a mirror while drinking fine wine . Enjoy your childhood, don't be in a rush to become an adult. Honestly I don't expect you to take on board an ounce of anything I have said, I probably wouldn't at your age, but I guarantee I will appear a genius when you read this back in 20 years time.
 
Busty St Clare said:
Yes you are too young. You will probably have the time of your life, come away with many thoughts and ideas that will motivate and change your life forever but these are things that will still be there in a few years time. You will be more experience in life, and while this may appear condescending come from an old(er) codger, you will appreciate the gift of LSD so much more. you run off a check list of drugs you have used but I'll ask you what have you gained from each experiment? We're you able to embrace each drug in a healthy environment or were there times you had to hide your use from your parents, with the added burden of paranoia and anxiety?. Drug use is more fun when you have complete freedom. You will understand what I mean the day you walk naked from your bedroom to your kitchen high as a kite, make a meal and sit down in your lounge surrounded by everything that is important to you, safe in the knowledge that the rest of the day or even weekend is for you and your psychedelic journey. The added pressure of not wanting to make eye contact or answer awkward questions from a suspicious parent is reason enough not to take LSD at 16.

I'll ignore the well researched evidence that drugs at such a young age is detrimental to brain development and instead direct you to the dark side or some other less "fluffy" threads here at Bluelight. A common theme for many members who started early was either a spiral into a drug centric lifestyle ( be it full blown addiction or loss of friends or regret of lost opportunities) or they simply lost the magic and no longer enjoyed drugs at all. The experience of using drugs differ when you are a child or adult, and it would be a shame if you burnt out and didn't get to enjoy the freedom of adult drug use.

You are worried that you are missing out in something and you are right. Have you ever made love under a waterfall? Have you felt the wind on your face as you tightend the mainsail of a yacht and sailed across the open ocean? I would recommend either of these things well before LSD. At 16 you should be trying to save as many brain cells as possible so you make life as easy as possible in the future . Working hard at school now will allow you to sit in a hot tub on a mountain top at thirty, doing lines of blow off a mirror while drinking fine wine . Enjoy your childhood, don't be in a rush to become an adult. Honestly I don't expect you to take on board an ounce of anything I have said, I probably wouldn't at your age, but I guarantee I will appear a genius when you read this back in 20 years time.
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Honestly I think it's hard to just jump and say that he is "too young" right off the bat. I started around his age, but I NEVER would have recommended it to 95% of my friends at the time. I do agree that it would be best to wait until at least 18 for the aspect of brain development, but in terms of maturity, we have no idea where Fionn is and his potential grounding around hallucinogenics. I personally have mixed thoughts on the age that I started at, I think that mentally I started at the perfect age, though this is purely based on my personal grounding around hallucinogenics and how they have affected my life. On the other side, I do wish that I had waited until my brain development naturally slowed, because it, on a chemical level, definitely produced some changes in my brain chemistry. I guess I don't really know what I'm trying to say. I'll sum it up to everyone's different, Im happy I started when I did, but I dont necessarily recommend that others start at the age that I did.

I also definitely agree that one should not be doing hallucinogenics if they have to worry about parents, school, etc.
 
Most twenty year olds are fucking idiots so I doubt most 16 yr olds have the maturity to use LSD wisely. My first experience of psychedelics was at 16 while in the middle of a 5 day hike through lamington national park. We lost a class mate for 10 hours and thought we were going to be expelled or charged with manslaughter. It pales in comparison to tripping on mushrooms last year while sipping champagne at an Andy Warhol exhibition and following pretty socialite women in silk dresses is all I'm saying. ;)
 
I think I should clarify my above post.

Busty St Clare's post really resonated with me. I started taking hallucinogenics when I was 14 and did every thing that would make a parent shiver in their boots. I took it when ever it was available. I hid being high from my parents, teachers, and once I even accidentally took it before seeing my shrink. He didn't know, until the next session when I told him. I got to go to an institution after that for a couple days. I didn't drop out from school literally, but I basically did, you know fuck the system and all that.

It has all worked out in the end for me and I have a very nice life (in spite of almost failing high school, I am now qualified to teach at a University). In fact, without those experiences I wouldn't be exactly who I am today. However, in retrospect, my behavior back then didn't exactly make things easier for me once I decided I wanted a rewarding job. It would have been smart to just play nice in high school and get on with securing a career earlier and then having my fun as an adult.
 
Busty, I definitely agree with most of what you're saying. Most, (and i mean ~99% ), of the people that would try hallucinogenics in that age range would not in my mind be mature enough to fully understand and appreciate them for what they are. Then there are those in the minority that I feel can. I feel that I, at the age I started, was able to appreciate hallucinogenics, not to the degree that I do now, but I feel that my grounding around them was far different from most of the people that I knew at the time. I don't meen to say that I am special, just that my philosophy around them differed from some of the people that I knew at the time. In retrospect I can only think of 2 other people during my teens that were "ready". We have no idea where Fionn is, and I don't want it to sound like I am advocating use to him at his age, though I can see how my first post may have seemed like that. All I am saying is that I feel there are people in that age range that can handle, appreciate, and use hallucinogenics in a useful manor. A lot of my friends at the time used hallucinogenics purely recreationally, and as such I never tripped with those people. That is not a knock on them, I just never felt hallucinogenics to be "recreational". Only time I tried to use it as such, I at the end felt like I had wasted the chemical on an experience that gave me nothing.
 
I'm under no illusions that Fionn will decide to heed our advice and not try it in the next year. I'm sure he'll have a great laugh, hopefully keep his clothes on and, if he's lucky have a profound insight into his mind and decide that he is wasting his life doing drugs all the time and he should lift his game in school. (I'm just assuming a lot here fionn, don't take it to heart). However I rarely see teenagers show retraint, be it with their drug use or driving their car fast, and most 16 year olds who are experimenting in lsd are sacificing other aspects of their life to do so. I will tell my daughter the same thing when she is 16. I'll likely to introduce her to wine with her dinner when she is 12 or 13 in the European way, tell her that smoking cigarettes is stupid no matter what the age, and that illicit drug use is better in your twenties when your brain is stronger and you have much more control over your personal responsibilties like a career.
 
I am with Busty on this one... taking psychedelics when you are 16 is an absolute waste. Imagine taking acid as a 10 year old, and how pointless it would have been to do it then. Now double it, and that's how pointless taking acid at 16 will seem in another 6 years. There are a whole host of experiences that you could engage in that will be 1000x more fun now than when you're older. Acid has been relatively freely available for the last 50 years so I don't think it's going any where.

I might add that despite the success stories BL will throw up, taking illegal substances before you have anything firmly nailed down in your life is a relatively sure fire way to end up a million miles away from your potential. It is easier to get there then take drugs, than it is to take drugs on the way.
 
Busty St Clare said:
I'm under no illusions that Fionn will decide to heed our advice and not try it in the next year. I'm sure he'll have a great laugh, hopefully keep his clothes on and, if he's lucky have a profound insight into his mind and decide that he is wasting his life doing drugs all the time and he should lift his game in school. (I'm just assuming a lot here fionn, don't take it to heart). However I rarely see teenagers show retraint, be it with their drug use or driving their car fast, and most 16 year olds who are experimenting in lsd are sacificing other aspects of their life to do so. I will tell my daughter the same thing when she is 16. I'll likely to introduce her to wine with her dinner when she is 12 or 13 in the European way, tell her that smoking cigarettes is stupid no matter what the age, and that illicit drug use is better in your twenties when your brain is stronger and you have much more control over your personal responsibilties like a career.
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First of all, I'd like to say thank you to everyone who gave me wonderful responses, but more importantly to you. Your response covered most things with a perspective that has much experience. And just to note, I'm not ignoring any of your responses, they've been a wonderful insight into your mind but more importantly the world of maturity and drugs.
I do know myself that this age might be young for any drug never mind a sometimes life-changing psychedelic. I know you might have the impression that I'm your average 16 year old male who might be into cars or drugs and can slack when it comes to other, more vital aspects like school and lessons in life. (Not taking it to heart, I know you have to assume :D ) But when it comes to drug use, I'm very cautious, mainly the reason I made this thread. I do give time to my education and school work and drug use is only scarce compared to it.
Maybe I will have an insight and maybe I will look back here and think stupidly of doing this and thinking that I should have listened to you, but the decision hasn't been made yet. I respect your opinions, and I'm sure your a great parent with much experience :D
 
I wouldn't give psychs to person below 18, better 20 years old.
And now I think it is not wise to advertise drugs and give them to random people. Only if person already interested from literature and knows it is for him, I will help.
But most important is maybe not age, but how mature, confident and knowledgeable you are. And this is not for you to decide, but to wise and responsible people you respect
 
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